Dante vs Superman

Now...assume Superman is bloodlusted but IC. He attacks Dante at sub light speeds to avoid environmental destruction. Dante somehow survives. Supes punches him out of orbit and follows. Once in space he is free to use his faster than light speed to completely obliterate Dante.

Assuming Supes' immunity to timestop is PIS-like (Majestic etc were able to be frozen in time by magic users with human reaction speed and reflexes) that isn't too playsible. Dante is really durable in his demon form not to mention healing ability. If he stays conscious after first attack (and I've already gave the speed on which Supes has to chase him (unrealistic when fight in character and in lower layers of atmosphere) before Dante has chance to stop time or just teleport out of harm's way (which is within his powerset and can be done with a mere thought, no gestures or spellcasting)).

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Assuming Supes' immunity to timestop is PIS-like (Majestic etc were able to be frozen in time by magic users with human reaction speed and reflexes) that isn't too playsible. Dante is really durable in his demon form not to mention healing ability. If he stays conscious after first attack (and I've already gave the speed on which Supes has to chase him (unrealistic when fight in character and in lower layers of atmosphere) before Dante has chance to stop time or just teleport out of harm's way (which is within his powerset and can be done with a mere thought, no gestures or spellcasting)).

Majestic was frozen in time while he was talking. He wasn't even fighting anyone at the time. Unless you're referring to another instance when Majestic was frozen in time?

I'm referring to that one, and timestop is timestop...it's not a beam from Captain Cold etc gun you can dodge, I think.

I'm not about "pwning a person before he can put up a chronofreeze field", there was argument that Superman just takes it like nothing and it's entirely impossible to freeze him in time.
Whatever he was talking, drinking or having a bath in that time means nothing.

I agree that bloodlusted and royally pissed off Superman can speedblitzDante or (even more easily) any person like Zatanna, Doctor or Doctor Stange calibre whose speed of thought\reflexes are human before timestop occurs.
Taking it like nothing was that seemed PISish to me.

Some young New Gods used some Chrono Suspension device on him and he broke out of it.

I'm not sure if that was exactly a timestop. It is possible to freeze him in time, he might be able to break free but I don't see it been very easy.

I doubt that it would be easily for IC-fighting Supes in atmoshere to speedblitz a person whose combat speed while even not at its peak level is supersonic (outrunning bullets and easily slicing bullets, missles and raindrops, runs so fast that air around him is heaten to the white colour, surfing on a missle fired into him from rocket launcher)- probably Quicksilver level. In high demonic form he can go even faster (I think top Sparda form flight speed was subluminal).

He's CONSIDERABLY slower that Superman, but fast enough for normal Superman not to speedblitz him in atmosphere before he can stop time around himself\teleport out of harm's way which happens with mere thought and doesn't require any gestures or spells.
Superman moving on like Max15 speed(which he will be doing in atmosphere while IC) can lose that, bloodlusted Supes who doesn't care about enviromental damage etc wins.

Chrono Suspesion device? Fine, tech. Than magical cronofreeze still gets him, that's a bit diffetent things. Chrono Suspence devise uses no magical time-dimensonal rifts on which the powers of our handsome devil are based. Just gravity manipulation, since gravity and time are directly related and by manipulating gravity on certain level you can "freeze" someone in time emulating the effect of magical chronal freezing powers with tech.
Thanks for explanation. There's no PIS in breaking out of thet device for Supes- he just had to move faster than light to do that, disturbing the field device created and breaking it.
That means my calculations were right and Superman IC (not royally pissed one) loses that like 6-10 in Dante's favour.
Pissed off Superman (like the one who saw Lois Lane cheating on him with Dante and decided to pull out Othello) is immune to magic that means he wins that 10\10 without any doubt.

ROFL@Sadistic Superman tossing Dante's unconscious body into the sun.

Hey...a ripoff does it...why can't he!? tongue

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Chrono Suspesion device? Fine, tech. Than magical cronofreeze still gets him, that's a bit diffetent things. Chrono Suspence devise uses no magical time-dimensonal rifts on which the powers of our handsome devil are based. Just gravity manipulation, since gravity and time are directly related and by manipulating gravity on certain level you can "freeze" someone in time emulating the effect of magical chronal freezing powers with tech.
Thanks for explanation. There's no PIS in breaking out of thet device for Supes- he just had to move faster than light to do that, disturbing the field device created and breaking it.
That means my calculations were right and Superman IC (not royally pissed one) loses that like 6-10 in Dante's favour.
Pissed off Superman (like the one who saw Lois Lane cheating on him with Dante and decided to pull out Othello) is immune to magic that means he wins that 10\10 without any doubt.

Time is frozen in the center of a black hole, and Superman has been just fine in one before. Even as a rookie, Clark took the gravity of a black hole just fine without being crushed.

Superman also doesn't have to be pissed or bloodlusted to handle Dante. As a matter of fact, he was annoyed but not royally pissed when he faced the multiversal Dominus. Dominus powers are cosmic, magic, and technological. Tvo gives Clark the ability to impose his will over other characters power sets as well.

Lastly, How far does Dante's attack extend? Superman could 1 punch uppercut him out of Earth, or could fight him from space going nowhere near him.

He could freeze the entire block and chrono freeze Dante, turn intangible and invisible...etc.

Superman has just too many options. He could sit on the moon and conviniently HV Dante to death at his leisure (something that Ultra man loves to do by the way) or bury him in rubble at the center of the Earth long before Dante has a chance to think.

I love you Avalon.

Somehow you make me feel like an appetizer until the meal is served.

Because Sentry can't imagine anything better🙂? And he has to make sure he's uncounscious for real, since due to demonic healing powers Dante can take a couple of punches on "convinient" speed, and Supes is a)not immune to timestop; b)IC wouldn't move faster than Max 15 in lower layers of Earth atmosphere to avoid huge enviromental damage; c)was shot in the head once with buillets charged with demonic energy (Diablo signature) and nearly died from that. If he's frozen in time, he can't dodge and will live through the same painful experience.

Though bloodlusted pissed-off Superman can do all the horrible stuff you've described to Dante, including throwing his body to the sun.

Superman has just too many options. He could sit on the moon and conviniently HV Dante to death at his leisure (something that Ultra man loves to do by the way) or bury him in rubble at the center of the Earth long before Dante has a chance to think.

Dante has conbat teleportation as legitimate part of his powerset, so that can be countered. Ultra Man? Completely different persoinality from Superman.
Gravity-based chronofreeze? I've explained it before.
"Pissed off" is a wrong word, at least he has to be motivated enough to get over his magic weakness.
Oneshotting in space does nothing since Dante's high demonic form survives in space unaided and its speed of flight is rather desent one.

Truly motivated Supes does to Dante what he did to Blaze. Under regular curcumstances- Dante gets a desent chance though he's still suspectible to stuff like T-Vo (none tried anything like that on him AFAIK).

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I love you Avalon.

Somehow you make me feel like an appetizer until the meal is served.

Thank you... Superman can also use ultrasonic frequencies ftw.

or easily bury Dante 2000 feet underground.

Pardon for the small pics...but this is also easily viable.

Keeping Dante up in the air with Super-breath, and HV or using the environment against him.

Black hole "timestop" resistance is fine and well within Superman's powerset (that's also what happened to New Gods device). Resisting anomaly created with magical energy that has nothing to do with gravity is completely different thing.

When stakes are high for Superman (Dominus, reflecting godblast) he ignores magic totally, that weakness is based on psychology. Also he's no Flash so he wouldn't be fighting on subluminal speeds in Earth atmosphere...
Blasting somedoby from the moon is in character for Ultra Man, not for Superman. Heat vision is not faster than light, so there's one second to do something (dodge or teleport).

Motivated enough, Superman obliterates Kain, Dante and Kratos at the same time. All those arguments are valid against any of them (exept Kratos would be the fastest to deal with).

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Pardon for the small pics...but this is also easily viable.

Keeping Dante up in the air with Super-breath, and HV or using the environment against him.

That's all right with small pics. That argument of yours is easily countered by teleportation just behind Supes and timestop.

Dante's demonic form (high demonic form in that case) posesses the ability of flight on speeds close to subluminal.

Any of attacks you mentioned aren't executeed with the speed of thought so that's plenty of time for Dante, who is slower than Supes but also superhumanly fast, to think "stop".

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Black hole "timestop" resistance is fine and well within Superman's powerset (that's also what happened to New Gods device). Resisting anomaly created with magical energy that has nothing to do with gravity is completely different thing.

When stakes are high for Superman (Dominus, reflecting godblast) he ignores magic totally, that weakness is based on psychology. Also he's no Flash so he wouldn't be fighting on subluminal speeds in Earth atmosphere...
Blasting somedoby from the moon is in character for Ultra Man, not for Superman. Heat vision is not faster than light, so there's one second to do something (dodge or teleport).

Motivated enough, Superman obliterates Kain, Dante and Kratos at the same time. All those arguments are valid against any of them (exept Kratos would be the fastest to deal with).

Actually, blasting someone from space is not something that is out of character for Superman. Ultraman was just brought up because he really really enjoys it.

And even paranormals are not immune to ultrasonics. None of my examples have shown a bloodlusted Superman, and as for Dante's attack, we:

A: Don't know if it's more powerful than the center of a black hole. Magical or not.

B: We don't know it's distance...or how long it needs to really take effect.

C: If it's really a time-stop, or Dante moving so fast that his enemines look like they are standing still (something Superman has done with ease.)

D: A calm Superman can use T-vo to null the whole attack.

Superman has too many advantages. In a comic..Dante would fare better as they would tone down Clark or have him in "stupid" mode to make the fight a lot more fair.

In a vs setting, Superman is on a whole other level.

Avalonofthewind, I'm not a fanboy and can say that things like T-Vo would kill pretty much anyone.
Motivated enough Supes has a record of pwning high demonic beings.

And I'm sorry if you felt offended by my yesterday last PM which sounded a bit like advertisment.

Ultrasonic is just the particular frequency of the sound. Dante's HF is pretty much instant (detter than Hulk's or Wolverine's) and can compensate the damage it does to body cellular structure.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Avalonofthewind, I'm not a fanboy and can say that things like T-Vo would kill pretty much anyone.
Motivated enough Supes has a record of pwning high demonic beings.

And I'm sorry if you felt offended by my yesterday last PM which sounded a bit like advertisment.

Not at all!

I see you are just looking at what angle Dante can score a win over Superman. Nothing wrong with that.