Originally posted by llagrok
I was hoping to do a joint Inhumans respect thread.One with all the supporting Inhumans.
Morning!
Originally posted by darthgoober
Digi typically frowns on that sort of thing because the threads can become cluttered and confusing when you're trying to check out a specific individual. A joint thread for the "minor" Inhumans would probably be fine, but people like Karnak and Medusa have enough appearances and feats to warrant their own threads IMO. But that's just me, if you'd rather do a thread for all of them just let me know and I'll stop working on Karnak's solo thread.
No, just carry on.
I'll try and dig up some more Gorgon feats.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
And shattered BADLY. It was just a little less PISish that Wolvie's victory over Lobo. Some of my friends just refused to read that sh*t.
Probably the greatest kung-fu practicioner in Marvel was made to job to stinky canuck🙁(((
As for Karnak, he's more about his superhuman abilities than about skills.
Well Wolverine IS one of Marvel's top tier fighters and he has an experience advantage on Shang... it doesn't really come off to me as being something that strictly shouldn't happen.. but most people don't give Wolverine's skill credit because of how he's portrayed in most team books "snikt rawr" (*leap at opponent*).
Originally posted by jinzin
Well Wolverine IS one of Marvel's top tier fighters and he has an experience advantage on Shang... it doesn't really come off to me as being something that strictly shouldn't happen.. but most people don't give Wolverine's skill credit because of how he's portrayed in most team books "snikt rawr" (*leap at opponent*).
You mean in "all" comics.
Originally posted by jinzin
Well Wolverine IS one of Marvel's top tier fighters and he has an experience advantage on Shang... it doesn't really come off to me as being something that strictly shouldn't happen.. but most people don't give Wolverine's skill credit because of how he's portrayed in most team books "snikt rawr" (*leap at opponent*).
Wolverine's percentage of mindless berserker showings outnumbers the percentage of his skill showings. Wolverine shows his skills once in a blue moon, so...it's pretty well can be his passive knowledge. Experience alone can be tricky thing. It depends also on how often do you use stuff that you've learnt.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Wolverine's percentage of mindless berserker showings outnumbers the percentage of his skill showings. Wolverine shows his skills once in a blue moon, so...it's pretty well can be his passive knowledge. Experience alone can be tricky thing. It depends also on how often do you use stuff that you've learnt.
Lol, well his skill while in a berserker rage isn't only something that's been observed upon by Charles Xavier, but it's also been commented on by several enemies during close quarters combat...
So while panels may not display it well, it's been commented on several times, solidified by the names of people he's beaten with skill, and further by his ranking in marvel's fighting estimates as well as pretty much every bio he's ever had.
But that' not where people draw their interpretation of his ability from... For instance people saw him leap at Wrecker to get batted away and a month later did the same thing with Black Panther and suddenly people thought that was the extent of his fighting ability...
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
And ten percents of active knowledge is not enough for Wolverine to win over Shang Chi in the way it was described.
I think you're SEVERLY underestimating Wolverine's use of skill if you think he's only using 10% of what he's learned.
That said, I wouldn't agree to that statment... you might think that but I've seen people win fighting competitions having only trained for ONE variation on a front punch and one variation only... but it was enough to carry them past people who had trained for multitudes of techniques and styles.
In that instance 1 technique>>> everything else brought to the table..
Still though, I'm not surprised at Wolverine beating Shang.. it's what should happen when Wolverine gets into a fighting skills competition. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
Lol, well his skill while in a berserker rage isn't only something that's been observed upon by Charles Xavier, but it's also been commented on by several enemies during close quarters combat...So while panels may not display it well, it's been commented on several times, solidified by the names of people he's beaten with skill, and further by his ranking in marvel's fighting estimates as well as pretty much every bio he's ever had.
But that' not where people draw their interpretation of his ability from... For instance people saw him leap at Wrecker to get batted away and a month later did the same thing with Black Panther and suddenly people thought that was the extent of his fighting ability...
Or like when he made a leap at Mr.X or when Danger commented on how his attacks were always premature.
Originally posted by jinzin
I think you're SEVERLY underestimating Wolverine's use of skill if you think he's only using 10% of what he's learned.That said, I wouldn't agree to that statment... you might think that but I've seen people win fighting competitions having only trained for ONE variation on a front punch and one variation only... but it was enough to carry them past people who had trained for multitudes of techniques and styles.
In that instance 1 technique>>> everything else brought to the table..
Still though, I'm not surprised at Wolverine beating Shang.. it's what should happen when Wolverine gets into a fighting skills competition. 😬
I agree with you on the point that more doesn't equal better. So "knowledge of all MA styles in the world" is sort of ridiculous...even for 200 years old character.
Ares, Mars or god of war of any other pantheon, though, look just fine with that ability.
Originally posted by llagrok
Or like when he made a leap at Mr.X or when Danger commented on how his attacks were always premature.
Beast takes her out of all members? BEAST?
And Wolverine didn't seem to be having too much trouble with when he was soloing her and ord.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
For example, if Wolverine was really as skilled and creative for the victory in 3 panels over Shang Chi to be really plausible, he won't be looking so lame agaist Danger.
With such plethora of knowledge it would have been pretty easy for him to surprise Danger.
Danger's not really a standard.. EVERYONE was made to look like an ass against Danger.. save Beast.. and the way he defeated her was totally absurd.. he basically pulled a play out of the Wolverine playbook there for craps sakes...
I mean one of the main thing's about Wolverine's fighting style when he goes all out is that it IS unpredictable.. Hence why he mopped the floor with MR. X, Rapture, Psylocke. Hell even three generations of Shiva droids specifically designed to fight an adapt to Wolverine's abilities...
Danger's not a standard and I think you'd have to be pretty ignorant not to recognize the low play that Wolverine got in Astonishing when it WASN'T just for the sake of comedic value. Whedon's a great writer, and I loved what he did with that run, but that's far from the definitive Wolverine... He had Wolverine go down from getting sliced across the stomach for god sakes. 😬