Originally posted by llagrok
Yes, Whedon has no idea what he's doing. He's spot on with everyone EXCEPT Wolverine. God forbid anything less than a nuclear bomb should take down Wolverine.
Yes because that's EXACTLY what I think an' all... 🙄
Do you have a medical condition that causes you to so quickly jump to extreme conclusions or are you just normally this much of a prick?
Ughhh, if I really have to start digging up examples to show you to prove why Wolverine going down from a one bladed belly slice is a bad example of how he'd normally be portrayed... Like, if you honestly think that there's nothing wrong with that, then I think you have a SEVERLY skewed and malinformed outlook on Wolverine's capabilities..
As for Astonishing:
Look; Like I said before.. I think that Whedon's a fantastic writer. His writing is what kept me hooked up through the last season of Angel for every episode. Same reason why I went to an advanced screening for Serenity... But when it comes down to Logan, in terms of defining representations of pre-existing characters, no matter how much you love Whedon's stuff you can't deny that he's NOT "spot on" when it comes to Wolverine.
Wolverine as he's presented in Astonishing is more of a caricature of the character than an actual representation.
He's there as a poster boy for the book's comic relief and there's something definitely wrong with that when put into context of Wolverine's entire career.
In Astonishing he little more than a beer obsessive semi-bafoon. The only real key moment he had in terms of his character's representation was when he rationalized why Beast shouldn't take the cure, bu even that was a bit miffed as he immediately tried to gut him when Beast refused to toss it, especially considering that Logan's always been one to support free will. Hence his outlook on the registration act. It doesn't help that Rogue already went down that plotline and Wolverine didn't even raise a hand to stop her, instead giving her the oppurtunity to choose for herself.
And please; Every Whedon example is subject to extreme inconsistencies in terms of capabilities and power levels for the story's sake... This is a trait that goes back to Angel and Buffy.
The fact that Ord and Danger who both Soloed whole teams of X-men were later getting soloed by Wolverine himself is a testiment to that..
Whedon's a great writer for the purposes of entertainment, but he makes it hell for trying to guage characters on a tier level...
For example: Conner owned Angel and his whole crew the first time he showed up; after that, he was little more than a nuisance to Angel in their fights.. after that! he was doing better against Hamilton than Angel was.. Why? No explaination.
Buffy took down "The Master", beat Angelus, curbed Spike, and thrashed Dracula... only to get nearly killed by a recently turned high-school alumni who had a couple of lessons in Tai Kwon Do. No reasoning for this either...
None explained.. because these inconsistencies are for the sake of story telling. Same with Logans in Astonishing... Like I said, not the defining Wolverine.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Everone,go look at the Updates in the Jonn thread.
Originally posted by Akuki
I just did, nice scans there. Right now I'm still qorking on figuring out my ideas for the tournament. I'm hoping Alita will be able to qualify, but she's right on the edge. I think I might be able to get her in though, since Deathstroke is also technically low-meta, and all of her feats are basically the same level as his.
Who's Alita?
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Who's Alita?
An enhanced cyborg with martial arts skills that surpass Shiva, moves at supersonic speeds, can make claws of plasma, and manipulate electromagnetic fields.
She tears through most opponents by doing stuff like this:
I was starting to make a respect thread for her, but I decided not to give away too much just in case I could get her in the tournament. here's the bit I started though:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f74/t464051.html
Originally posted by Martian_mind
i'm sorry to say the odds of her getting in are rather slim mate...
Originally posted by Akuki
I know. I was reading her stats for the first series and was thinking she could get in, but then I read the sequel and I knew there was just no hope. She could honestly take opponents like The Thing in a couple of seconds. Which is a real shame since she is the most versatile character that I can think of for this fight. I'm still looking for a good strong swordsman character for my second choice in this fight, but so far i'm not having much luck.
Right now I'm torn between Deathstroke, Ranma, and T'challa, but I'm still looking.
.....Cable?Daedpool?
Originally posted by Akuki
Do you think current cable would fit under low-meta? I've actually been looking at him but I wasn't sure if he would qualify. Deadpool isn't all that great because they usually ban high regen characters.
It's worth a shot.
you could take him when he's had his lobotomy but before he gets the tech if yoiu need to.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
It's worth a shot.you could take him when he's had his lobotomy but before he gets the tech if you need to.
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Originally posted by Rufus T Fireflyboobs. ermmnone
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Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
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