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Originally posted by Creshosk
Fact of the matter is people will always be babies. Each of their complaints were nothing that we hadn't seen before. And what people don't realize or forget is that there was a time when this place was alot more open to what was available to be used. When I first came herethings were alot more open, I remember one thread I first saw was Spider-man versus Darth Vader. The forum was fine then, it didn't collapse.

One concern is that people didn't want to see anything but Comics vs Comics. And not just any comics western style comics intoning a slightly racsist sort of stance with excluding the asian style comics. But the concern was also not much different from the counter concern of not wanting to see the same matches we'd been seeing forever. with the only hope of something new is a new character in the comics

hmm... i get you... but i really don't see why eastern comics shouldn't be allowed... it can't just be marvel and DC...

Originally posted by pr1983
hmm... i get you... but i really don't see why eastern comics shouldn't be allowed... it can't just be marvel and DC...

Of course you'd also get the problem of people arguing they're more familiar with the anime (which is just the japanese word for animation)

Which is really no different than people arguing that they're more familiar with the cartoon version or movie version of given comics.

アニメ
(n) (abbr) animation; (P)

アニメーション
(n) animation; (P)

漫画【まんが】
(n) comic; cartoon; (P)

漫画本【まんがほん】
(n) comic book

Originally posted by pr1983
tell me, is there much opposition to the changes made, or is it simply being blown out of proportion... either way i'd rather know...

It was blown out of proportion by a few people rather than the sum of us.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Generally because the eastern comics are called manga (which is simply the japanese word for comic book, in japan Marvel and DC produce manga)

Of course you'd also get the problem of people arguing they're more familiar with the anime (which is just the japanese word for animation)

Which is really no different than people arguing that they're more familiar with the cartoon version or movie version of given comics.

アニメ
(n) (abbr) animation; (P)

アニメーション
(n) animation; (P)

漫画【まんが】
(n) comic; cartoon; (P)

漫画本【まんがほん】
(n) comic book

if its actual printed comics with stories and feats and whatnot, i don't see why they shouldn't be included... if we're talking DBZ, that's when i'd kind of draw the line...

Originally posted by Blair Wind
It was blown out of proportion by a few people rather than the sum of us.

i keep hearing that, so either everyone's lying, or i'm missing something.... and i'm pretty sure its the latter...

Originally posted by pr1983
if its actual printed comics with stories and feats and whatnot, i don't see why they shouldn't be included... if we're talking DBZ, that's when i'd kind of draw the line...

Originally posted by pr1983
i keep hearing that, so either everyone's lying, or i'm missing something.... and i'm pretty sure its the latter...

😂

In my case I was hesitant about the changes, but I decided I trusted you two to know what you were doing and ride it out.

I only know of a few people who cried loudly (a few of the socks, and a few other people) but on an average the people I can remember most just discussed it and decided to live with it for a time.

But if people cry loudly enough.....eh. Im sorry to see that Raz had to step in when frankly I would have given it a little more time as everything seemed to be smoothing over at last.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
It was blown out of proportion by a few people rather than the sum of us.

Indeed.

On paper it might've looked good, but when half of the anime fans are (retarded) completely unwilling to compromise and refuse to acknowledge that Dante can't take on LT, it's destined to fail.

If the mods are going to allow something like this again, I hope that it'll be limited to manga and ONLY manga. God knows that we don't need more DBZ (retards) fans who put Super Buu on the same level as LT, Presence and TOAA.

Originally posted by llagrok
Indeed.

On paper it might've looked good, but when half of the anime fans are (retarded) completely unwilling to compromise and refuse to acknowledge that Dante can't take on LT, it's destined to fail.

If the mods are going to allow something like this again, I hope that it'll be limited to manga and ONLY manga. God knows that we don't need more DBZ (retards) fans who put Super Buu on the same level as LT, Presence and TOAA.

How ya doin

Originally posted by Creshosk
Me either... xenophobia maybe?

possibly... though that may be too strong a word... i'm sure if people were more exposed to manga and the like, their inclusion would be a hell of a lot easier...

Originally posted by Blair Wind
😂

In my case I was hesitant about the changes, but I decided I trusted you two to know what you were doing and ride it out.

I only know of a few people who cried loudly (a few of the socks, and a few other people) but on an average the people I can remember most just discussed it and decided to live with it for a time.

But if people cry loudly enough.....eh. Im sorry to see that Raz had to step in when frankly I would have given it a little more time as everything seemed to be smoothing over at last.

my thoughts exactly...

Originally posted by llagrok
Indeed.

On paper it might've looked good, but when half of the anime fans are (retarded) completely unwilling to compromise and refuse to acknowledge that Dante can't take on LT, it's destined to fail.

If the mods are going to allow something like this again, I hope that it'll be limited to manga and ONLY manga. God knows that we don't need more DBZ (retards) fans who put Super Buu on the same level as LT, Presence and TOAA.

there were always concessions for that though... if something was missed, ok, but generally we tried hard to make sure people weren't abusing the choices they'd been given...

Originally posted by pr1983
there were always concessions for that though... if something was missed, ok, but generally we tried hard to make sure people weren't abusing the choices they'd been given...

Yeah. There were SOME people that you could discuss with though, but I can't think of anyone but Akakui (spelling?) but there were a couple of bad examples as well, whose names I won't mention.

Originally posted by guy222
How ya doin

Pretty good actually, lil bored

You?

Morning Clan!

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah. There were SOME people that you could discuss with though, but I can't think of anyone but Akakui (spelling?) but there were a couple of bad examples as well, whose names I won't mention.

Pretty good actually, lil bored

You?

there's always going to be that element though, and i would like to think that given time we could sort that to a degree...

Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
Morning Clan!

howdy...

Originally posted by pr1983
there's always going to be that element though, and i would like to think that given time we could sort that to a degree...

Of course. And if not, then we shouldn't feel too bad. There will always be that kind of people out there. The kind that refuses to acknowledge feats and understand that certain things are PIS.

Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
Morning Clan!

Yo!

without reading any back pages(you should all be use to that by now 😛) I miss anything good

Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
without reading any back pages(you should all be use to that by now 😛) I miss anything good

Sexual tension, and lots of it.

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah. There were SOME people that you could discuss with though, but I can't think of anyone but Akakui (spelling?) but there were a couple of bad examples as well, whose names I won't mention.

Pretty good actually, lil bored

You?

On a break. Its hot. Day is goin well. Why u bored

Originally posted by pr1983
there's always going to be that element though, and i would like to think that given time we could sort that to a degree...

howdy...

How are u

I think the main problem with changing the rules was that people thought it was going to degenerate into 'Superman vs. Goku style' flame wars. Guys like King_Cold didn't help in that regard. 😂

But overall, it seems to be working. And Illadelph's tier thread definitely helps. Plus we managed to get 3 new respect threads out of this.

Regarding xenophobia and excluding manga: I have no problem with letting manga in, I just would prefer if we got the intelligent fans and not the DBZ tards. 😛 With luck, we may get a manga character in the next tournament. 😄

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think the main problem with changing the rules was that people thought it was going to degenerate into 'Superman vs. Goku style' flame wars. Guys like King_Cold didn't help in that regard. 😂

But overall, it seems to be working. And Illadelph's tier thread definitely helps. Plus we managed to get 3 new respect threads out of this.

Regarding xenophobia and excluding manga: I have no problem with letting manga in, I just would prefer if we got the intelligent fans and not the DBZ tards. 😛 With luck, we may get a manga character in the next tournament. 😄

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Edit: I have the new Namor. Let me know if anybody wants scans of the Namor/Wolverine fight.

Originally posted by Badabing
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