Juggernaut vs Wonder Woman

Come on people when has Wonder Woman ever thrown someone to the sun, in reality do you have any idea how far the sun is from this planet??? I mean it's not across the street, I agree that she could toss him around a little, but he'd just get back up as if it were nothing, we should refrain from using the sun as a ways to get rid of Cain, because, it makes Diana seem desperate, and points to Cain's superiority. Yes she is fast enough to grab him and fly into outer space but I can almost guarantee that bebore she reaches the sun or even the earths biosphere he will more than likely grab her... Let's start all over, now, if Wonder Man slugs it out with him as she is so famous for doing she will be overcome by Juggernauts resilience, in fact she wouldn't even be able to hurt him if he's in the state that he was in while Thor hit him in the face... does anyone remember what Juggernaut did next? No??? well I'll tell you, he put Thor into a bear hug and nearly killed him, but was intervened by another avatar, thus saving Thor. If Wonder Woman fought Juggernaut in an impregnable arena that was surounded by 50 percent adamantium and 50 percent vibranium, who would win this battle? I won't give my opinion but can you guess who I'm thinking dies?

Originally posted by dawsey28
Yeah, as if she'd die as SOON as he grabbed her. 🙄

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classic juggs couldnt be phased by her. ww would need a plot device to beat him and here that doesnt fly. she dies.

True.

However it will be a cold day in hell before Cain lays a finger on her.

So they stalemate until Diana finds a way to battlefield remove Juggy.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The fact that Superman takes him that crossover between Marvel and DC, made no sense at all, Cain is a walking tank of mystical energy, he should have no problem busting open Clark, much like Captain Marvel does. He should even be able to break Clarks bones, even though they would mend under the suns radiation, but if anyone could cause Supes grief it would or theoretically should be Juggernaut.

No offense to Superman, because to be honest I love a good Superman story, perhaps more than any other comic.

Superman never took juggernaut. Superman caught a juggernaut that punched at a wall by suprised and looked up and it was superman flying over him.

He wasnt damaged at all.

They never showed what happened after that.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Come on people when has Wonder Woman ever thrown someone to the sun, in reality do you have any idea how far the sun is from this planet??? I mean it's not across the street, I agree that she could toss him around a little, but he'd just get back up as if it were nothing, we should refrain from using the sun as a ways to get rid of Cain, because, it makes Diana seem desperate, and points to Cain's superiority. Yes she is fast enough to grab him and fly into outer space but I can almost guarantee that bebore she reaches the sun or even the earths biosphere he will more than likely grab her... Let's start all over, now, if Wonder Man slugs it out with him as she is so famous for doing she will be overcome by Juggernauts resilience, in fact she wouldn't even be able to hurt him if he's in the state that he was in while Thor hit him in the face... does anyone remember what Juggernaut did next? No??? well I'll tell you, he put Thor into a bear hug and nearly killed him, but was intervened by another avatar, thus saving Thor. If Wonder Woman fought Juggernaut in an impregnable arena that was surounded by 50 percent adamantium and 50 percent vibranium, who would win this battle? I won't give my opinion but can you guess who I'm thinking dies?

What are you talking about?
WW needs only to throw him in space ftw.
So the sun is moot.

But with more mootness:
Once Juggs is in space it doesn't take much to hurl him into the sun. For the sun's own gravity is much greater than Earth's.
And this is assuming that WW doesn't have the enough strength to throw him far enough towards the sun where the its gravity will take over. Which is utterly ridiculous as she is uber strong (rivaling superman's) and should do it with minimal effort.

cased closed!

Originally posted by quanchi112
ww dies.

Really, how?

Originally posted by quanchi112
juggs beat the life from her. ww dies. no big surprise here.

Once again how?

Originally posted by quanchi112
look how easily supes defeats her. you are over ranking her. she dies due to his unrelenting nature. ww dies.

poor Diana.

Oh, his "unrelenting nature?" Ok. I'll bite.

She may be a little too fast for him. She may be a little too skilled for him and there is always the option of BFR.

Originally posted by quanchi112
classic juggs could tear into Themyscira. sorry but supes strangled her with a lasso like nothing. poor ww couldn't even phase classic juggs.

What's the point of bringing up a Superman fight? And there is STILL the option of BFR. And I'd say she is fast and skilled enough to do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ww doesn't compare to supes and you know it so don't argue. classic juggs was a monster and would break Diana's arms like twigs.

No she is not equal to Superman, but just a notch below him. Which is still pretty powerful.

AND EVEN IF Juggernaut could "break Diana's arms like twigs," as you claim, how is he going to be able to when she is as fast and skilled as she is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
she cant phase his ass. while she has been beaten and rather easily by many characters. She loses this bad. As soon as juggs grabs her, its game over.

Has been beaten by and rather easily by whom? Besides Superman, who are these "many characters" that you claim has defeated her easily?

Not that it matters for the outcome of this fight, but I challenge you to show me, or at least tell me, who these "many characters" are.

And once again, HOW is it "game over" "as soon as juggs grabs her" when she is as fast and skilled as she is?

Originally posted by quanchi112
he counters her many hits and snaps her in two.

Once again, I don't see how this is possible when she is as fast and as skilled as she is. I also don't see how he "snaps her in two."

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's hammer could do more damage than anything ww could throw at superman. Thor is packing more heat.

Yes, Thor's hammer didn't stop the Juggernaut, but I don't really see what this post has to do with this particular fight.

Unless your argument is "she can't phase him." And if that's the case, then there is still the option of BFR. How could Wonder Woman not BFR Juggernaut when she is as fast and skilled as she is?

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes indeed ww dies here. hes to much.

How? PLEASE elaborate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
shes a walking corpse here in this thread.

Once AGAIN...How?

Originally posted by quanchi112
classic juggernaut is a beast. ww although very impressive at certain times can also have her ass handed to her at times. ww although she appears faster there is nothing she can do pretty much that puts juggs down. soon as he grabs her she dies.

that is all.

When has Wonder Woman had "her ass handed to her"? Please show me or tell me these incidents. And by somebody besides Superman.

And once again, there is still the option of BFR. How could Wonder Woman not BFR Juggernaut when she is as fast and skilled as she is?

Originally posted by quanchi112
its hilarious the arguments that are coming forth for ww.

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classic juggs couldnt be phased by her. ww would need a plot device to beat him and here that doesnt fly. she dies.

It is SO FUNNY, isn't it? 😆

Especially, when you have not yet countered an argument.

So I challenge you to back up your claims--especially the claims of Wonder Woman being defeated by many characters or of her being defeated many times.

And while you're at it, why don't you explain how Wonder Woman cannot BFR Juggernaut when she is as fast and skilled as she is.

Touched a nerve, did he?

Originally posted by spidermonkey
Touched a nerve, did he?

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ww looks so weak here. he used her own weapon against her and easily to boot.

Not really, you keep saying as fast and skilled as she is, but Thor is far faster and far more skilled than juggernaut as well, and he was still grabbed, let me point out one thing, Diana is not a precog, she does not know who or what Cain is, so who's to say that she would not try to slug it out with him. I'm not going to go and hate on Wonder Woman because she really is tough and versatile, and all of that good stuff, but if she does not bfr Cain, to the sun, which I still don't see how she would do this within seconds. Cain has the right power set to take her down. Wonder woman is not a monster or a murderer she has no idea that Cain can breathe in space, she would most likelly try to knock him out, this however would not work, but she can be slammed.

Wonder Woman has taken huge amounts of damage from foes that are much less than Cain in power take Tigra look alike (sorry forgot her name) She has wounded Diana severely, and in the Justice comics mortally wounded her. Cain would crush her. My point being is that she isn't untouchable. I aree she could bfr him, but I do not agree that she could take him toe to toe. There is no way that she hits as hard as Mjolnir, and even that was like a shower, and Thor wasn't holding back.

if they fought in an arena that they could not escape Cain would win, and if they fought in sapce or in the air Diana would win, but this would be a shallow victory, because in the end, she still never stopped him... only delayed the inevitable.

Just remember that time that Superman tried to bfr Doomsday by flying him up into space and he was grabbed, Juggernaut may be able to do the same, so this is really not a sure victory for her. This is why I said an arena type battle, because I knew people would continue saying bfr.

Originally posted by quanchi112
people get so angry when its just comics. juggernaut snaps her neck. easier than when superman strangled her with her own lasso.

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ww looks so weak here. he used her own weapon against her and easily to boot.

I KNEW YOU WOULD USE THAT!!!!! 😆

Isn't that a fight from Superman/Batman? If so, I don't consider Superman/Batman as canon. I know that's debatable.

So for argument's sake let's say it IS canon. Well, wasn't that particular fight in another time or another dimension or something? Which would mean that it STILL doesn't count.

And if not, then it is certainly PIS, CIS, or just plain crappy writing.

And there was a reason why I said "BESIDES SUPERMAN" -- Reason being, that I KNEW you would try and use that particular fight as evidence.

But HELL, lets say that fight actually DOES count. Again, I say what's the point of bringing up a Superman fight? Is Juggernaut as fast as Superman? Explain to me HOW he will "snap her neck" when she is as fast and skilled as she is.

Why don't you give me a different example of someone defeating Wonder Woman? I'm sure you could find ONE example since you claim she has been defeated so many times by so many characters so easily.

And there is STILL the option of BFR. And I'd say she is fast and skilled enough to do it. PLEASE tell me how Wonder Woman cannot BFR Juggernaut when she is as fast and skilled as she is.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Not really, you keep saying as fast and skilled as she is, but Thor is far faster and far more skilled than juggernaut as well, and he was still grabbed, let me point out one thing, Diana is not a precog, she does not know who or what Cain is, so who's to say that she would not try to slug it out with him. I'm not going to go and hate on Wonder Woman because she really is tough and versatile, and all of that good stuff, but if she does not bfr Cain, to the sun, which I still don't see how she would do this within seconds. Cain has the right power set to take her down. Wonder woman is not a monster or a murderer she has no idea that Cain can breathe in space, she would most likely try to knock him out, this however would not work, but she can be slammed.

Wonder Woman has taken huge amounts of damage from foes that are much less than Cain in power take Tigra look alike (sorry forgot her name) She has wounded Diana severely, and in the Justice comics mortally wounded her. Cain would crush her. My point being is that she isn't untouchable. I aree she could bfr him, but I do not agree that she could take him toe to toe. There is no way that she hits as hard as Mjolnir, and even that was like a shower, and Thor wasn't holding back.

if they fought in an arena that they could not escape Cain would win, and if they fought in space or in the air Diana would win, but this would be a shallow victory, because in the end, she still never stopped him... only delayed the inevitable.

Just remember that time that Superman tried to bfr Doomsday by flying him up into space and he was grabbed, Juggernaut may be able to do the same, so this is really not a sure victory for her. This is why I said an arena type battle, because I knew people would continue saying bfr.

At least you have a descent argument.

Quanchi needs to back up his claims and explain how Wonder Woman would not be able to BFR Juggernaut. Which he has YET to do.

I see you agree that she CAN BFR him. When I'm saying "as fast and skilled as she is" I'm talking about BFR. My opinion is she fast and skilled enough to BFR him. At least, in response to Quanchi's posts.

Of coarse people will continue to say BFR. Honestly, when he has an impregnable shield, what else can you use in a Juggernaut thread ?

I don't remember ever saying it is an easy win for Wonder Woman. IT IS NOT an easy win.

Because we all know Juggy can handle people with Diana's combat speed. Eventhough he can't handle Peter Parker. duriroll

Peter is a low level precog.

And?

Diana isn't or did she get a power up that I have not read about yet?

No. But she's way faster than he is.

I don't see how Juggernaut will lay a finger on her when he can't even handle Spidey with his precog and speed.

I know.

People are like oh, she'll just tire and then it's over. I wonder if these people realize HOW LONG THAT would take.

But anyway, she DOES have sight of Athena which gives her increased insight. Maybe not exactly the precog that CaptainStoic is looking for but I just want to point that out.

The thing about DC and Marvel fights like this is that DC characters always seem to have this speed advantage. Who in Marvel speedblitzes (top tier level)? Thor is supposed to be very fast, but his speed feats are very limited and he's one of the very few top tiers that I can think of from Marvel that is supposed to have that kind of speed. Heck, everybody in DC speedblitzes. Supes, WW, Black Adam, ect,,,. Anyways, Juggs couldnt hit WW, but I dont see anything she could do to him either. She's fast, but does anybody think she could actually grab Juggs and BFR him before he could actually get a hand on her? I dont. This would be the samething as if Thor, Surfer, Hulk, etc,,tried. Why havent they?

Whats also funny is if she did throw him into the sun, he still wouldnt die. A BFR counts, but thats a pretty crappy way to win. I think it still counts as a stalemate.

If juggs got his hands on her, I think he would win.

With her superior speed and reaction time she could battlefield remove him before he could even react and get his shield up.

And...Thor is not the best example of a top tier marvel blitz. The Runner is a good example. He blitzed Silver Surfer into submission and Surfer was loving it.

BFR is her only option...and once she punches him a couple of times at Super Speed and sees no harm is been done she will realize she is better off throwing him out of orbit.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

And...Thor is not the best example of a top tier marvel blitz. The Runner is a good example. He blitzed Silver Surfer into submission and Surfer was loving it.

The Runner is an Elder of the Universe. Thats a terrible comparison. He's overboard and would easily take the people we are talking about.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Diana isn't [a precog] or did she get a power up that I have not read about yet?

Won't the Spirit of Truth and Eyes of Pallas (Sight of Athena) let her see the "Truth"?