Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Diana isn't [a precog] or did she get a power up that I have not read about yet?
Isn't Juggernaut magical? She has a HIGH resistance to magic AND a magical intuition.
And from what I understand, she can also see GODLY energies in others.
So I assume she'd be able to "see" the energies of the God, that he is powered by.
But it will not allow her to see him throw a punch before he actually does, my point is that if Spiderman is really careful with overpowering opponents he has a great chance of avoiding getting hit by them, I've seen Diana get hit before, Supergirl hit her, and she didn't look like she expected it Supergirl could probably hit Spidey too, but he would know that it was coming, and if it didn't knock his head clear off he'd at least be able to roll with it, The Cheetah hits Diana on a regular basis, she just isn't a precog... the Silver Surfer can avoid a meteor storm while flying at light speed and better because he has cosmic awareness, Diana could not. What I'm getting at is Juggernaut has a good chance of getting a shot in. He also has a mystical healing factor, that looks as efficient as the Hulks, also Juggernaut does not put up his shield, it's always up, it's just that when he focuses it get stronger.
Here's a question for you all, if Thor got them both to stand still and hit them square in the face with all of his might who do you think would be standing? Thor is well within the range to bfr Juggernaut he could open a portal and send him there, but it is never written like that, if bfr was the answer to all comic book battles I'd never read another comic again.
Battle field removal in this thread has convinced me that Wonder Woman could not take him straight out, in a toe to toe battle. She'd bleed he wouldn't and I don't know if you guys realize what happens when a person gets battered enough, but they generally go into shock from loss of blood, which also weakens them, he will heal from anything that she could possibly launch at him, if she could wound him at all.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
She could hit her when she wasn't that fast.
Well considering golden-age Wonderwoman [when she first started out] was basically just an athletic woman so that doesn't mean much. She couldn't do really anything to what she can do now.
The male Cheetah even beat Superman
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
But it will not allow her to see him throw a punch before he actually does, my point is that if Spiderman is really careful with overpowering opponents he has a great chance of avoiding getting hit by them, I've seen Diana get hit before, Supergirl hit her, and she didn't look like she expected it Supergirl could probably hit Spidey too, but he would know that it was coming, and if it didn't knock his head clear off he'd at least be able to roll with it, The Cheetah hits Diana on a regular basis, she just isn't a precog... the Silver Surfer can avoid a meteor storm while flying at light speed and better because he has cosmic awareness, Diana could not. What I'm getting at is Juggernaut has a good chance of getting a shot in. He also has a mystical healing factor, that looks as efficient as the Hulks, also Juggernaut does not put up his shield, it's always up, it's just that when he focuses it get stronger.Here's a question for you all, if Thor got them both to stand still and hit them square in the face with all of his might who do you think would be standing? Thor is well within the range to bfr Juggernaut he could open a portal and send him there, but it is never written like that, if bfr was the answer to all comic book battles I'd never read another comic again.
Battle field removal in this thread has convinced me that Wonder Woman could not take him straight out, in a toe to toe battle. She'd bleed he wouldn't and I don't know if you guys realize what happens when a person gets battered enough, but they generally go into shock from loss of blood, which also weakens them, he will heal from anything that she could possibly launch at him, if she could wound him at all.
But aren't the Eyes of Pallas literally the eyes of the goddess Athena allowing her to see things in a near-omnipotent view? Almost a "cosmic awareness" in itself.
Seeing a punch before he throws one? How fast is Juggernaut? I'm sure she could probably counter a punch before it hits her.
Supergirl is pretty fast. So is Cheetah. I don't understand why you are using them as a comparison to if Juggernaut could hit Wonder Woman.
Could he get a hit in? Maybe, but I doubt he can one-shot her.
Wonder Woman isn't exactly a "person," she is a divine creation, and constantly renews herself. And she has a "healing" power also. So I doubt she is going into shock from blood loss.
She fought Ixion. She was knocked from city to city by Zoom. She took quite a few punches from an evil Flash counterpart. She survived the molten lava from the core of Apokolips (JLA #14). She even took a shot to the face from Oblivion.
I think she has been through a little more than Juggernaut can dish out.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Here's a question for you all, if Thor got them both to stand still and hit them square in the face with all of his might who do you think would be standing?
She took a punch to the face from Oblivion and it didn't seem to phase her too much.
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Originally posted by h1a8Just as a counter to BFR, Juggs could conceivably ask Cyttorak to move him back to the battle. It has been done before. Just sayin' that BFR isn't fullproof; it won't give WW 10/10.
Why is this thread continuing to go on.
WW wins by throwing Juggs in space.Case closed!
Wonder Woman will not win a HtH fight with classic Juggs. She just won't. She can evade him, but her blows will do nothing to him. He cannot be harmed by this kind of physical force. Her stamina is vast, but is not infinite. She will tire before Cain does and when that happens, Juggs could KO her.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Just as a counter to BFR, Juggs could conceivably ask Cyttorak to move him back to the battle. It has been done before. Just sayin' that BFR isn't fullproof; it won't give WW 10/10.Wonder Woman will not win a HtH fight with classic Juggs. She just won't. She can evade him, but her blows will do nothing to him. He cannot be harmed by this kind of physical force. Her stamina is vast, but is not infinite. She will tire before Cain does and when that happens, Juggs could KO her.
How many times has WW been KO'd in her career? Who did it? Is the juggy anywhere near as strong or as fast as the guys who did it? Has she ever been shown to actually tire in battle? These are questions that should be answered before giving an opinion like this.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Just as a counter to BFR, Juggs could conceivably ask Cyttorak to move him back to the battle. It has been done before. Just sayin' that BFR isn't fullproof; it won't give WW 10/10.Wonder Woman will not win a HtH fight with classic Juggs. She just won't. She can evade him, but her blows will do nothing to him. He cannot be harmed by this kind of physical force. Her stamina is vast, but is not infinite. She will tire before Cain does and when that happens, Juggs could KO her.
Juggs can do no such thing in a BFR situation.
He only asked to go where the Hulk was. And that wasn't a BFR situation.
Cyttorak only did this because of a deal he made with Juggs.
There is no deal here for Classic Juggs is already bad.
Thus escaping BFR is not valid.
Originally posted by TheEyesoGOD
How many times has WW been KO'd in her career? Who did it? Is the juggy anywhere near as strong or as fast as the guys who did it? Has she ever been shown to actually tire in battle? These are questions that should be answered before giving an opinion like this.
In JLA she had a heart attack and nearly died after fighting an illusion to the point of exhaustion (which was one of Batman's plans for how to defeat her).
