Originally posted by Black bolt zYou obviously didn't read cosmos in collision. All my reasoning is backed by on panel events.
Thanos can't win.Black hole can't kill them,he is not going to create a clone and he will not overpower them.He loses 9/10.
Sorry quan...accept your lose and come to terms with it.
Two Thanos clones have threatened the universe itself yet Thanos can't beat the 4th host? Seriously?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0With prep I don't see why he couldn't create a massive black hole.
^ Pay attention to the opening post. Thanos can only use his own normal abilities. He has neither Maelstrom's kinetic abilities, nor the Quantum Bands, nor is he Oblivion's avatar, nor is he bonded with Anomaly. Stop pretending he could replicate amped Maelstrom's feat.
He has his ingenuity which means he can create what he wants to within his normal abilities.
Originally posted by quanchi112Pretending it's "only a black hole" requires a certain suspension of common sense that nobody here shares with you. Thanos does not have Maelstrom's kinetic abilities, nor the Quantum Bands, nor is he an avatar of Oblivion, nor is he bonded with Anomaly.
With prep I don't see why he couldn't create a massive black hole.He has his ingenuity which means he can create what he wants to within his normal abilities.
Ingenuity + normal abilities =/= Maelstrom from Cosmos in Collision. I know you're used to reverse-projecting feats onto your favorite artifacts and characters. Like you did when you tried to reverse-project the UN's clearly Multiversal magnitude of power onto the IG. Or like here when you're trying to reverse-project Anomaly Maelstrom onto Thanos. But you're not fooling anybody but yourself.
Originally posted by quanchi112When he shut the power off to the Fulcrum that prematurely cut off Hunger's full emergence into the 616 universe prematurely, which in turn left him killable via a planetary explosion that didn't even kill a weak Galactus?
Even though he defeated a being capable of consuming all of 616 and making Galactus seem like a minor threat?
So you're assuming that the Celestial is going to put itself in a precarious position via a Fulcrum consisting of the Infinity Nuts that leaves him killable by a planetary explosion? That scenario isn't exactly contemplated here. I said this before, I'll say it again: Pay attention to the opening post.
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Originally posted by Omega VisionSo the times which less has affected Celestials it's pis now? This is why you can't debate you rule everything out you don't agree with making you biased.
He defeated him through dubious means that probably wouldn't faze a non-PIS Celestial. 😬
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I used the words epic and massive to describe it I never stated it was just an ordinary black hole so please quit acting as if I implied it was just an ordinary blackhole.
Pretending it's "only a black hole" requires a certain suspension of common sense that nobody here shares with you. Thanos does not have Maelstrom's kinetic abilities, nor the Quantum Bands, nor is he an avatar of Oblivion, nor is he bonded with Anomaly.Ingenuity + normal abilities =/= Maelstrom from Cosmos in Collision. I know you're used to reverse-projecting feats onto your favorite artifacts and characters. Like you did when you tried to reverse-project the UN's clearly Multiversal magnitude of power onto the IG. Or like here when you're trying to reverse-project Anomaly Maelstrom onto Thanos. But you're not fooling anybody but yourself. When he shut the power off to the Fulcrum that prematurely cut off Hunger's full emergence into the 616 universe prematurely, which in turn left him killable via a planetary explosion that didn't even kill a weak Galactus?
So you're assuming that the Celestial is going to put itself in a precarious position via a Fulcrum consisting of the Infinity Nuts that leaves him killable by a planetary explosion? That scenario isn't exactly contemplated here. I said this before, I'll say it again: Pay attention to the opening post.
kinda
He doesn't have to go by the same means to do so but why can't he create a universal destroying blackhole if he wanted to? Is it beyond him?
I am assuming if he has 6 days to take on the furth host he will defeat them just like he did against the Hunger who was beyond Galactus and his vast intelligence. That's how dangerous Thanos is.
Originally posted by quanchi112No. You definitely tried to imply it was an ordinary black hole. Just bigger.
I used the words epic and massive to describe it I never stated it was just an ordinary black hole so please quit acting as if I implied it was just an ordinary blackhole.He doesn't have to go by the same means to do so but why can't he create a universal destroying blackhole if he wanted to? Is it beyond him?
I am assuming if he has 6 days to take on the furth host he will defeat them just like he did against the Hunger who was beyond Galactus and his vast intelligence. That's how dangerous Thanos is.
I'm not here to prove your argument. You have to prove he can do the same thing an Anomaly-bonded, Oblivion-avatar, Quantum Band wielding Maelstrom did. Stop trying to cast negative proof fallacies on other people simply because you have zero proof to support your own outlandish theories.
You are assuming a Celestial (or the Fourth Host) is going to be handicapping themselves via a Fulcrum of dem Infinity Nuts so that they can be conveniently taken out by a planetary explosion. Smart work, there. Unfortunately, I don't speak retard.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0It was amssive black hole that could defeat the Celestials. Don't blame me for your shortcomings and your inability to not understand my sentence.
No. You definitely tried to imply it was an ordinary black hole. Just bigger.I'm not here to prove your argument. You have to prove he can do the same thing an Anomaly-bonded, Oblivion-avatar, Quantum Band wielding Maelstrom did. Stop trying to cast negative proof fallacies on other people simply because you have zero proof to support your own outlandish theories.
You are assuming a Celestial (or the Fourth Host) is going to be handicapping themselves via a Fulcrum of dem Infinity Nuts so that they can be conveniently taken out by a planetary explosion. Smart work, there. Unfortunately, I don't speak retard.
So Thanos can create clones of Galactus, etc. yet cannot create a massive black hole like Maelstrom?
That's Thanos using his brains to defeat the Hunger which Galactus was unable to do. That's called winning and knowing what needed to be done while Galactus was just there.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was amssive black hole that could defeat the Celestials. Don't blame me for your shortcomings and your inability to not understand my sentence.So Thanos can create clones of Galactus, etc. yet cannot create a massive black hole like Maelstrom?
That's Thanos using his brains to defeat the Hunger which Galactus was unable to do. That's called winning and knowing what needed to be done while Galactus was just there.
Originally posted by quanchi112The only shortcomings being blamed are your's. Trying to reverse-project your inability to formulate an argument and then have it thoroughly rebutted, and then acting like we didn't understand it in thre first place is the same tired bs ploy you've been trying to pass of as "debating" for months now. It's trolling.
It was amssive black hole that could defeat the Celestials. Don't blame me for your shortcomings and your inability to not understand my sentence.So Thanos can create clones of Galactus, etc. yet cannot create a massive black hole like Maelstrom?
That's Thanos using his brains to defeat the Hunger which Galactus was unable to do. That's called winning and knowing what needed to be done while Galactus was just there.
I stated this before, troll: I'm not here to prove your argument. You have zero proof that he could replicate Anomaly-bonded, Oblivion-avatar'd, Quantum Band-wielding Maelstrom's feat. You're the one with zero proof. Not me.
No. That's called plot device. Here, Celestials aren't coming through a Fulcrum where shutting it down will leave them killable via planetary explosion. Stop projecting your fantasies onto a thread with clear settings.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0You don't think Thanos can use his mind to create a black hole the size and power of which ca affect the Celestials but I do believe he can. There is no reason to believe otherwise considering what he has accomplished on panel.
The only shortcomings being blamed are your's. Trying to reverse-project your inability to formulate an argument and then have it thoroughly rebutted, and then acting like we didn't understand it in thre first place is the same tired bs ploy you've been trying to pass of as "debating" for months now. It's trolling.I stated this before, troll: I'm not here to prove your argument. You have zero proof that he could replicate Anomaly-bonded, Oblivion-avatar'd, Quantum Band-wielding Maelstrom's feat. You're the one with zero proof. Not me.
No. That's called plot device. Here, Celestials aren't coming through a Fulcrum where shutting it down will leave them killable via planetary explosion. Stop projecting your fantasies onto a thread with clear settings.
He can travel back in time if he feels the need to.
Lots of stories have plot devices while the Celestials themselves are plot devices but my point has been made. Thanos will achieve the plot device to defeat these plot devicesque characters. I have stated his accomplishments which really suggest this is small time for him especially since the Celestials aren't seen as impervious as they used to around 25 years ago.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't think Thanos can use his mind to create a black hole the size and power of which ca affect the Celestials but I do believe he can WITHOUT ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER. There is no reason to believe otherwise considering what he has accomplished on panel.He can travel back in time if he feels the need to WITHOUT ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER.
Lots of stories have plot devices while the Celestials themselves are plot devices but my point has been made WITHOUT ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER. Thanos will achieve the plot device to defeat these plot devicesque characters WITHOUT ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER. I have stated his accomplishments which really suggest this is small time for him especially since the Celestials aren't seen as impervious as they used to around 25 years ago.
Originally posted by quanchi112That has to be a jacked up comic 😕...
I am just going by what the comics tell me.