Are there any better strength feats than these?

Started by Validus8 pages

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to ask you again, since you seem hell bent in avoiding the obvious answer. What does marvel has that puts him on supes league?

Superman writers creating a dialogue that suggest his equal does not supersede actual feats.


I don't know how many times I have to say "stalemating Superman in combat several times" before it begins to sink in. Stop talking about dialogue since I never mentioned it.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
In the first issue, he mentions being ION.

He mentions the time he spent as Ion. Not that he was Ion. As you would say, come on dude.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Then I concede the point about his showings in JLA, but I don't believe he should be in the league considering that he's just too powerful. That would be like having surfer as a member of the avengers. I understand helping them, but a full time member.

You act like the JLA is a bunch of Captain America level people. All those guys who were in the League at the time, except Batman obviously, are pretty powerful in their own right.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Also, you claimed that he's never been ION before in a JLA comic. So, wouldn't that validate what I said about him not being in his prime during JLA comics?

If you want to spin your words that way, perhaps it would be validation.

Originally posted by Supermanluv
Ahh... not all logic is objective.
Then there is a failure in logic. 😬

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Proving my point that his prime during lantern comics. 🙂

Thanks for proving my point kisses


Your original point was that Green Lantern had nothing but low showings in JLA comics. I proved you wrong. If you want to sit here and pretend to be right, thats up to you. Anyone here can see your original thought process.

Originally posted by Validus
There isn't a single character in comics who is consistently written as powerful as they should be. That's why we have the terms PIS/CIS.
Wrong.

There's Squirrel Girl.

Originally posted by Validus
I don't know how many times I have to say "stalemating Superman in combat several times" before it begins to sink in. Stop talking about dialogue since I never mentioned it.

Stalemating him is a low end showing, just like rhino loses to spidey everytime.

Originally posted by Validus

You act like the JLA is a bunch of Captain America level people. All those guys who were in the League at the time, except Batman obviously, are pretty powerful in their own right.

I never said they were weak, but Lantern>>>League

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Wrong.

There's Squirrel Girl.


A girl with squirrel powers beating Thanos isn't what I call being written as she should be. 😛

Originally posted by Validus
Your original point was that Green Lantern had nothing but low showings in JLA comics. I proved you wrong. If you want to sit here and pretend to be right, thats up to you. Anyone here can see your original thought process.

Quote me where I said all he has were low showings in JLA? I clealy said his showings were not at their prime in JLA comics, and that they do not illustrate his true strength.

Originally posted by Validus
A girl with squirrel powers beating Thanos isn't what I call being written as she should be. 😛
Hey, when PIS IS your power, I don't see how you could be subjected to it.

Unless you lost, I suppose. hmm

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Stalemating him is a low end showing, just like rhino loses to spidey everytime.

Rhino losing to Spidey because of his intelligence is the same as Marvel being as strong and as tough as Superman is?

"Come on, dude."

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I never said they were weak, but Lantern>>>League

You said
That would be like having surfer as a member of the avengers.

The difference between GL and the rest of the League isn't near as extreme as the difference between Surfer and Cap, Wolverine, Luke Cage, etc.

Heh, this thread lasted more than 2 pages.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Quote me where I said all he has were low showings in JLA? I clealy said his showings were not at their prime in JLA comics, and that they do not illustrate his true strength.

Buddy, Ion isn't Kyle's real strength. It's a giant power source that doesn't belong to him.

If you give Batman the power cosmic and then take it away from him, would power cosmic Batman be his true power?

Originally posted by Validus
Rhino losing to Spidey because of his intelligence is the same as Marvel being as strong and as tough as Superman is?

True, that was a bad example, but I brung it up because you keep dodging this question: What does marvel have that makes him equal to supes?

Originally posted by Validus

You said

The difference between GL and the rest of the League isn't near as extreme as the difference between Surfer and Cap, Wolverine, Luke Cage, etc.


I was reffering to classic avengers. 😬

Originally posted by Validus
Buddy, Ion isn't Kyle's real strength. It's a giant power source that doesn't belong to him.

If you give Batman the power cosmic and then take it away from him, would power cosmic Batman be his true power?

That's classic Ion, I'm talking about Ion in general. Also, power cosmic is not the root of batmans strength.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
True, that was a bad example, but I brung it up because you keep dodging this question: What does marvel have that makes him equal to supes?

He's just as strong, arguably more durable and nearly as fast. He doesn't need anymore to make it fight which he always does.

Point is it doesn't make any sense to knock Superman for being crazy strong and then admit to being a CM fan(boy). That's like me saying "Damn, Silver Surfer has a cheesy powerset" while sitting here with a GL avatar and sig.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I was reffering to classic avengers. 😬

Classic Avengers team that included Thor? Having Thor on the team kind of shoots down the whole idea that Surfer is too powerful to be there.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
That's classic Ion, I'm talking about Ion in general. Also, power cosmic is not the root of batmans strength.

The original Ion was the life force of the Guardians. Now it's a completely separate entity unto itself. Either way, it doesn't belong to Kyle just like the PC doesn't belong to Bats.

Originally posted by Validus
He's just as strong, arguably more durable and nearly as fast. He doesn't need anymore to make it fight which he always does.

That's PIS at it's best, two things make him equal to supes? How is gonna survive a speed blitz, Heat vision, and T-Vo. Also, he's not stronger than supes, that's a joke at best.

Originally posted by Validus

Point is it doesn't make any sense to knock Superman for being crazy strong and then admit to being a CM fan(boy). That's like me saying "Damn, Silver Surfer has a cheesy powerset" while sitting here with a GL avatar and sig.

There not equal, PIS and some dialogue doesn't make them equal. Also, how ma I a Captain Marvel fanboy when I admitt supes is stronger?

Originally posted by Validus

Classic Avengers team that included Thor? Having Thor on the team kind of shoots down the whole idea that Surfer is too powerful to be there.

Surfer is more powerful than thor.

Originally posted by Validus
The original Ion was the life force of the Guardians. Now it's a completely separate entity unto itself. Either way, it doesn't belong to Kyle just like the PC doesn't belong to Bats.

Who cares if it doesn't belong to him, he still is the master of said power.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
That's PIS at it's best, two things make him equal to supes? How is gonna survive a speed blitz, Heat vision, and T-Vo. Also, he's not stronger than supes, that's a joke at best.

He's going to survive a speed blitz because he can move at light speed himself. CM is fast enough to cross dimensions thanks to the power of Zeus.

Heat vision? Captain Marvel is a guy who has survived, literally, being turned inside out and you think heat vision is going to to be the death knell?

T-Vo is an advantage but CM's magical lightning has been shown as an advantage as well considering it did KO Supes.

You know, for a guy who claims to like Captain Marvel, you sure as hell don't know seem to think much of him.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Surfer is more powerful than thor.

Thor's victories over Surfer say other wise.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Who cares if it doesn't belong to him, he still is the master of said power.

So I guess Hal's natural form would be the Spectre, right? 😕

Originally posted by Validus
He's going to survive a speed blitz because he can move at light speed himself. CM is fast enough to cross dimensions thanks to the power of Zeus
Heat vision? Captain Marvel is a guy who has survived, literally, being turned inside out and you think heat vision is going to to be the death knell?

T-Vo is an advantage but CM's magical lightning has been shown as an advantage as well considering it did KO Supes.

You know, for a guy who claims to like Captain Marvel, you sure as hell don't know seem to think much of him.

Thor's victories over Surfer say other wise.

I'll just bump threads discussing said characters and we can debate them. Same with Thor & Surfer.