Are there any better strength feats than these?

Originally posted by Validus
So I guess Hal's natural form would be the Spectre, right? 😕

I'm pretty sure that was retconned, but even if your right. Are you telling me that I can't use instances of characters using their own power to gauge them?

Foreign origin doesn't change the fact that lanterns powers are his powers. Besides, I could say the same about many other heroes.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm pretty sure that was retconned, but even if your right. Are you telling me that I can't use instances of characters using their own power to gauge them?

Foreign origin doesn't change the fact that lanterns powers are his powers. Besides, I could say the same about many other heroes.

Ion = Separate, sentient being that used Kyle as a host and granted him use of its power

What I'm telling you is that you can't use another character's power to show how powerful Kyle is. Kyle is a Green Lantern. Not Ion.

Originally posted by Validus
The Spectre = Separate, sentient being that used Hal as a host and granted him use of its power

Ion = Separate, sentient being that used Kyle as a host and granted him use of its power

What I'm telling you is that you can't use another character's power to show how powerful Kyle is. Kyle is a Green Lantern. Not Ion.

Classic Ion is just green lantern with all of Oa's battery. It's ironic that your claiming Ions feats should not be attributed to kyle based soley on the fact that he's using a different amount energy from Oa. It's ironic because you claimed that the scale of relative feats/ ability should not seperate them, when you were arguing planet pushing. Also, the same could be said for kyle is aregular lantern I.E. Kyle is not green lantern, just because the ring is a foreign power source.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Classic Ion is just green lantern with all of Oa's battery.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It's ironic that your claiming Ions feats should not be attributed to kyle based soley on the fact that he's using a different amount energy from Oa. It's ironic because you claimed that the scale of relative feats/ ability should not seperate them, when you were arguing planet pushing.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Also, the same could be said for kyle is aregular lantern I.E. Kyle is not green lantern, just because the ring is a foreign power source.

In any case, how does this relate your (bs) rantings that GREEN LANTERN isn't portrayed correctly in JLA?

Originally posted by Validus
No, he's Kyle with the life force energy of 3 dozen Skyfather type beings.

Originally posted by Validus

Kyle as Ion was doing things he simply couldn't with the ring. He said as much himself. I've seen Green Lanterns who are amped with extra power (Hal in Emerald Dawn) and I've seen Ion. The difference between the two is night and day. Kyle without Ion would just revert to being a regular Lantern. Now Kyle without a power ring, wouldn't even have a reason as a character to even exist. That's the difference.

Amping up your power doesn't mean your different person. At the end of the day, kyle is ION. He's not an aspect of the power, he's it's master.

Originally posted by Validus

In any case, how does this relate your (bs) rantings that GREEN LANTERN isn't portrayed correctly in JLA?

You tell me, since you brought up Kyle when I meant lanterns in JLA peroid.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Classic Ions power source is the same as he is when he's regular lantern, mane. Your claiming it's a completely different, because he has more of it. 😬

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Same with green lantern, IONs just a higher step.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
You tell me, since you brought up Kyle when I meant lanterns in JLA peroid.

For the record, the reason I brought up Kyle is because he is the Lantern with the most JLA experience to speak of. I could list off feats for Hal and John that happened during the JLA time but I've already proved by point in that area.

Originally posted by Validus
No, I'm claiming its different because it's different.Ion is a separate being. Why is that not sinking in?

Ion is just lantern with all the power of the central battery.

Originally posted by Validus

I'm not exactly sure how me bringing up Kyle to prove that GL's aren't written down in JLA relates you going off on an ill advised tangent trying to prove that Ion is Kyle's real power.

I said it's wen he's in his prime, not he's real power. 😬

Ion is a ****ing Space Whale!!!!!

Gosh, maybe Sinestro can say it better than I can.

Why are you ignoring the fact that I was talking about classic Ion at that time? I though "All the power of Oa" was a good enough indicator.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Why are you ignoring the fact that I was talking about classic Ion at that time? I though "All the power of Oa" was a good enough indicator.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I said it's wen he's in his prime, not he's real power. 😬

Originally posted by Validus
And I thought Kyle shitting out a bunch of baby Guardians was a good indicator too.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Indicator of what, I brought up Ion. 😬

Originally posted by Validus
So you think GL should always be written as Ion despite the fact that he isn't always Ion?

Originally posted by Validus

I was talking about Classic Ion specifically, and you brought up the Ion from sinestro corps? 😕

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
No, I think he should be more spaced base and stay away from the JLA for a good while.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I never said he should not handle problems on earth, but considering how powerful a lantern is. They should be part of extinction level threats, there are enough superheroes to handle canon fodder threats.

Which I maintain, or are you telling me that the league can match lantern?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Which I maintain, or are you telling me that the league can match lantern?

Go ahead and make that thread.

Sure, lantern would pwn them.