Even so, i don't see Spawn losing to man-made weapons. Spawn could easly teleport behind Punisher or just walk-through the protective force field and use his chains to rip Punisher apart. And this suit is not saving Punisher from Spawn's chains. Or Spawn could just remove Punisher from that suit. Or he could just drain the power from this suit. In order for Punisher to win this he would have to find a divine weapon or find a way to blast the necroplasm out of Spawn.
Originally posted by spawnwest
Even so, i don't see Spawn losing to man-made weapons. Spawn could easly teleport behind Punisher or just walk-through the protective force field and use his chains to rip Punisher apart. And this suit is not saving Punisher from Spawn's chains. Or Spawn could just remove Punisher from that suit. Or he could just drain the power from this suit. In order for Punisher to win this he would have to find a divine weapon or find a way to blast the necroplasm out of Spawn.
I was thinking of taking away teleportation and stating that this was First Age Spawn.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well we know that Spawn is hurt by heavenly energy and I put some constraints on Spawn. At least its better than the other thread where Punisher has to fight Spawn with conventional weapons.
it's still bordering on being a duplicate thread, and it is spawn against punisher...
Originally posted by pr1983
it's still bordering on being a duplicate thread, and it is spawn against punisher...
mmmmmm yeah I guess so but serioulsy the other thread just sucked. I mean maybe it could be merged or some **** like that, what you're saying inst unreasonable but if anything the other thread should be closed because it sucks.
In that case the fight might be interesting because Spawn his still learning the ropes and for the most part fighting via conventional means. Punisher's problem is going to be Spawn's healing/regeneration factor. Spawn can take and quickly recover from anything that the Punisher throws at him.
Wearing this suit how many blast of necroplasmic energy could the Punisher take?
Punisher would have to come up with a very good plan and do some research. His best bet would be to try to take the fight to the Deadzone where Spawn is pretty much powerless and on a human level.
Originally posted by spawnwest
In that case the fight might be interesting because Spawn his still learning the ropes and for the most part fighting via conventional means. Punisher's problem is going to be Spawn's healing/regeneration factor. Spawn can take and quickly recover from anything that the Punisher throws at him.
Yeah thats what I was thinking, and that was my intent to make a more managable Spawn. I dont think his regenration would be that much of a problem heavenly energy was agony to first age spawn, it wont kill him straight away but it will HURT!
Originally posted by spawnwest
Wearing this suit how many blast of necroplasmic energy could the Punisher take?
Im really not sure but at this level I think something that tough would give some resistance. I think it would be reasonable to say that it would not destroy it in one shot. I also thought that if worse comes to worse Frank could use his firearms to block the necroplasm blasts.
Originally posted by spawnwest
Punisher would have to come up with a very good plan and do some research. His best bet would be to try to take the fight to the Deadzone where Spawn is pretty much powerless and on a human level.
I think a prep Punisher could take this with his powerset, but he doesnt ahve any prep just basic knowledge. I dont think his weakness is common knowledge.
Originally posted by Alfheim
1. I have already stated in the thread his firearms shoot heavenly energy.
2. I dont think Simmons was as good as the Punisher.
didnt think it was worth mentioning because 1. heavenyl energy doesnt hurt Spawn any more 2. guns firing heavenly energy is silly, even for Marvel comics.
Originally posted by Alfheim
mmmmmm yeah I guess so but serioulsy the other thread just sucked. I mean maybe it could be merged or some **** like that, what you're saying inst unreasonable but if anything the other thread should be closed because it sucks.
well whether you think it sucked or not, it was there first, the only grounds for closure of that thread is it being too unbalanced, but then i'd have to close this one too...
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
didnt think it was worth mentioning because 1. heavenyl energy doesnt hurt Spawn any more 2. guns firing heavenly energy is silly, even for Marvel comics.
1. I also said that its first age spawn as well, but its not that clear.
2. Wether its silly or not is irrelevant. Punisher uses guns and heavenly energy can hurt him = give punisher heavenly guns
Originally posted by pr1983
well whether you think it sucked or not, it was there first, the only grounds for closure of that thread is it being too unbalanced, but then i'd have to close this one too...
Well if you really really wanna close it could you merge it because it seems we are actually having a decent debate in this thread.
Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Why are people on this forum sadistic? We're pitting an ordinary human against the former head of Hell's army. While Punisher is one of the ordinary humans I think most capable of beating superhumans, he's still a little undermatched.Punisher w/ prep time? 50/50. Punisher w/out? 90/10 or worse, Spawn's favor.
with prep he could take him down. i've read how punisher plans things out and he's quite the sadistic type. without it, he loses, as much as i love him..
Originally posted by TheGame17
with prep he could take him down. i've read how punisher plans things out and he's quite the sadistic type. without it, he loses, as much as i love him..
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Why is this thread still open? Punisher loses horribly.
This thread has been changed Punisher gets mandroid armour and firearmes thats shoot heavenly energy. This is Punisher vs First Age Spawn.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Punisher vs Spawn in NYC. Punisher gets mandroid armour
http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/mandroidbattlesuit.htm
[B]Musculature Enhancement: Amplifies wearer's strength about 20 times.
Weapon Sub-Systems:
Offensive:
Major: High neuronic frequency stun cannons (2)
Description: Hand-mounted projectors
Range: 175 feet
Major: Electro-gravitic tractor/repeller field generators
Description: Hip pod located generators enabling protective force field or tractor beam Range: 15feet
Limits: Tractor beam can effect 950 lb. mass.
Major: Laser offensive torch
Description: 250 watt laser
Range: About 3 miles
Limits: Not effective in smoke, fog, clouds, etc.
Communications System: Numerous secure audio and visual channels available to user, with an average range of 30 miles (in combination with communications relay satellite; worldwide)
Computer: On board housekeeping routines which supervises all suit systems. Verbal recognition system with self-motivation programming that allows the suit to function autonomously under some battle conditions and in the event of user impairment.Frank also has firearmes that discharge Heavenly energy, he also has a heavenly combat knife, the mandriod armour enables him to use firearms and does not restrict his movement. Spawn has only the abilities of teleporataion, regeneration, shapeshifting and firing necroplasmic energy. [/B]
WTF?! Spawn CAN teleport from the very beginning! And, sure, Simmons at least was as good as the Punisher, but Hell I sure he is and will be the best - 'cause he was and still is the best trained assassin AND spy US Goverment has ever known.
BTW, I really like Heavenly version of Punisher. But still it can't change the fact that Spawn beat the crap outta THE BEST SPAWN-KILLING ANGEL EVER KNOWN (exept Immaculata, of course 🙂) just in his First Age.
Actually, does it need any more arguments?
Originally posted by $p@wn
WTF?! Spawn CAN teleport from the very beginning! And, sure, Simmons at least was as good as the Punisher, but Hell I sure he is and will be the best - 'cause he was and still is the best trained assassin AND spy US Goverment has ever known.
Theres nothing to indicate that he was as good as the Punisher all we know is that he was well trained. Punisher has had well trained people for breakfast for example he compeletly pawned a shield general. Considering that a shield general has more training and expreince than Simmons we could assume that he wasnt as well trained as the Punisher.
As far as I know Simmons was an agent and did not hold a high position.
Originally posted by $p@wn
BTW, I really like Heavenly version of Punisher. But still it can't change the fact that Spawn beat the crap outta THE BEST SPAWN-KILLING ANGEL EVER KNOWN (exept Immaculata, of course 🙂) just in his First Age.
Actually, does it need any more arguments?
Is that the one were the only reason Spawn survived was because the angel got distracted? If so its not a good argument.