Originally posted by Alfheim
Theres nothing to indicate that he was as good as the Punisher all we know is that he was well trained. Punisher has had well trained people for breakfast for example he compeletly pawned a shield general. Considering that a shield general has more training and expreince than Simmons we could assume that he wasnt as well trained as the Punisher.As far as I know Simmons was an agent and did not hold a high position.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Is that the one were the only reason Spawn survived was because the angel got distracted? If so its not a good argument.
Originally posted by $p@wn
Have you ever really read "Spawn" or you just thought you know enough? I'm seriosly doubt it.
Im just debating if I dont know I dont know no need to get all funny about it.
Originally posted by $p@wn
'Cause there was a Hell of indications starting from the straight words that I quote... In "Operation: Knightstrike" Al Simmons was recruited as one of the best goverment agents and along with other members defeat Spetsnaz - Russian team of super-soldiers. Chapel confess that he always envy Al 'cause Simmons always was the best. Spawn easely takes down the whole squad of heavy-armed professionals in their own bilding.
Frank has taken out SHIELD agents with ease and he wasnt even trying to kill them.
Originally posted by $p@wn
And who, for G-d's sake, said that SHIELD general has more training and expirience than Simmons?
Well my reasoning was.....nevermind.
Originally posted by $p@wn
! Al fights cyborgs, meta-humans, terrorists & partisans in jungles before he became magic-powered undead, and he fights them very well,
Frank has done similar stuff as well. I think Frank has taken out the Reavers they are a bunch of Cyborg villains. Hes taken out The High Evolutionaries man who are trained and were using high tech suits. Hes saved Moon Knights ass from supernatural freaks....so nothing new there.
Originally posted by $p@wn
not to mention that he also infiltrates in secured camps.
C'mon man, Frank can do that as well.
Originally posted by $p@wn
Hell ye, he was just an ordinary executive agent. +)))) The "position" have NOTHING with the subject of who are better trained. +((((
Originally posted by $p@wn
Nope. Spawn wins because he survive blast of Heavenly energy without any visible damage. And because he nearly kills the fearless angel hunter that knew all of Spawns' tricks and fight not only human Spawns but also alien Spawns and the whole Hell of other non-magical deadliest creatures Universe ever known.
Hell, if even Angela got distracted what can be said about ONLY HUMAN?!
Bro thats not what I saw, Spawn said he was in agony and he only survived because his friends distracted the guy long enough for Spawn to recover. What was that all about then?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
$p@wn, how's Kaze going? Is he still crazy about Cannonball and Quicksilver?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Frank has taken out SHIELD agents with ease and he wasnt even trying to kill them.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Frank has done similar stuff as well. I think Frank has taken out the Reavers they are a bunch of Cyborg villains. Hes taken out The High Evolutionaries man who are trained and were using high tech suits. Hes saved Moon Knights ass from supernatural freaks....so nothing new there.C'mon man, Frank can do that as well.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro thats not what I saw, Spawn said he was in agony and he only survived because his friends distracted the guy long enough for Spawn to recover. What was that all about then?
1st, I'm noone's bro. Neither bub or so.
2nd, I treat people as "competent" if they can use terms right and not mix them. You are not this man.
3rd, angels are angels - Heaven's female warriors, while the subject you adressing above is Redeemer, male soldier. So you neither read "Spawn" nor know it good, you don't even recognise the situation I describe above.
End of discussion.
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You can't hurt me, no
You can't stop me, no
You can't beat me, no
You can't bring me down
Come on, come on, come on
(c)
Originally posted by $p@wn
And so on? I'm pretty sure that we can easely compare SHIELD agents with Jason Wynn personal security.
Well there you go then.
Originally posted by $p@wn
Spawn also just want to neutralize them but this is not the matter of discussion.
Er didnt you bring it up to show how good Al was as an agent? Didnt I then give an example of Frank doing something similar so...yes its relevent to the discusion.
Originally posted by $p@wn
...but Al is now Spawn, and now he can do much more while Punisher is still the same good old ONLY HUMAN. And the infiltration was one of the leading skills of Al while Frank's not, he's just good in it but Al was perfect.
1. There is not going to be any infiltraion in this fight.
2. You still havnet give me any evidence that Al has done anything that Frank hasnt.
Originally posted by $p@wn
No superpowered suit can save Punisher from the same good old teleportation trick that rips Byron.
He doesnt get teleportation in this battle......
Originally posted by Alfheim
I was thinking of taking away teleportation and stating that this was First Age Spawn.
I didnt make myself clear but I sugessted that Spawn doesnt get teleportation another poster didnt have a problem with the suggestion so it became official but I can see how you missed that because it wasnt very clear. So i'll make myself clear. Spawn doesnt get teleportation.
Originally posted by $p@wn
Well, let's define terms.1st, I'm noone's bro. Neither bub or so.
Its just a figure of speech, no insult was intended.
Originally posted by $p@wn
2nd, I treat people as "competent" if they can use terms right and not mix them. You are not this man.
What so in other words because I forgot that a Reedemer wasnt an angel you want to get cranky? Wow I admitted im not an expert on Spawn just correct me thats all.
Originally posted by $p@wn
3rd, angels are angels - Heaven's female warriors, while the subject you adressing above is Redeemer, male soldier. So you neither read "Spawn" nor know it good, you don't even recognise the situation I describe above.
Well I read the fight between him and the Redeemer I just didnt know the difference, no need to make a big fuss about it. Hell the only reason why my thread got merged with this one was because I attempted to make a better fight between Frank and Spawn I never clamied I was an expert....got off my back...ok?
That doesnt change the fact that the heavenly energy really hurt Spawn. As far as I know First Age Spawn was never immune to Heavenly energy....correct me if im wrong.
Originally posted by Soljer
I don't feel like reading this thread, so, someone tell me;This is Al Simmons BEFORE he gets the Hellspawn symbiont, right? Otherwise this thread is just MASSIVE spite.
No. I made some modifications. This is First Age Spawn minus teleporation. Frank gets mandroid armour and weapons that shoot heavenly energy.