Fair enough but that nonetheless makes the prophecy true.
However, how do you account for Biblical prophecies that state names, dates and/or places? Like a prophecy that says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem or a prophecy that states the number of years until Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey which is accurate????
Originally posted by willRules
Fair enough but that nonetheless makes the prophecy true.However, how do you account for Biblical prophecies that state names, dates and/or places? Like a prophecy that says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem or a prophecy that states the number of years until Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey which is accurate????
Self fulfilling prophecy. Or, many things where added to the story of Jesus to make the son of god.
Originally posted by willRulesMithra, I believe also road the donkey which is accurate.
Fair enough but that nonetheless makes the prophecy true.However, how do you account for Biblical prophecies that state names, dates and/or places? Like a prophecy that says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem or a prophecy that states the number of years until Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey which is accurate????
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Self fulfilling prophecy. Or, many things where added to the story of Jesus to make the son of god.
Now your ignoring my question. yes there are self fulfilling prophecies. Yes some prophecies are vague and as much as Jesus did fulfil them, there is still plenty of room for skepticism.
How do you account for prophecies that are accurate? Prophecies like this one?
Vaticinium ex eventu, a prophecy written after the author already had information about the events he was "foretelling". The text is written so as to appear that the prophecy had taken place before the event. Critical exegetes are generally agreed that certain prophecies, such as Jesus' prophecy of the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, were inserted into the text after the fact.
Originally posted by willRules
Now your ignoring my question. yes there are self fulfilling prophecies. Yes some prophecies are vague and as much as Jesus did fulfil them, there is still plenty of room for skepticism.How do you account for prophecies that are accurate? Prophecies like this one?
You don't know if that prophecy is accurate or fraud:
Originally posted by Storm
Vaticinium ex eventu, a prophecy written after the author already had information about the events he was "foretelling". The text is written so as to appear that the prophecy had taken place before the event. Critical exegetes are generally agreed that certain prophecies, such as Jesus' prophecy of the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, were inserted into the text after the fact.
Storm said perfectly...
Originally posted by Storm
Vaticinium ex eventu, a prophecy written after the author already had information about the events he was "foretelling". The text is written so as to appear that the prophecy had taken place before the event. Critical exegetes are generally agreed that certain prophecies, such as Jesus' prophecy of the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, were inserted into the text after the fact.
That's a matter of belief ✅
Nostradamus - the prophecy of 1999.
Century 10, Quatrain 72:
The year 1999 seven month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars (war) to reign by good luck.
Century 6, Quatrain 97:
At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof from the Normans.
Instead of the 7th month, did Nostradamus actually mean the 7th of the month in the first verse? Consider this: On May 7, 1999 NATO rained bombs down on the city of New Belgrade, Yugoslavia and struck the Chinese Embassy killing 4 Chinese citizens (journalists). This definitely brought "back to life the great King of the Mongols" so much so that China was almost ready to go to war with the West (the U.S. in particular). High level diplomacy averted this but tensions ran high for a long time afterwards. And from the sky did come a great King of Terror...NATO bombers that launched more than 20,000 laser or satellite-guided weapons and dropped over 79,000 tons of explosives including at least 152 containers with 35,450 cluster bombs during a 3-month campaign of horror. A broadly estimated 2500-5000 civilians were killed as U.S. and coalition warplanes assaulted medical facilities, neighborhoods, city centers and even a passenger train with bombs, some weighing over 5 tons which caused devastation comparable to an earthquake. New Belgrade sits almost right on the 45th parallel with actual coordinates of 44*48'N,20*25'E. Many interpreters believe this verse relates to New York City, however, it only lies on a latitude of 40*43'N,74*0'W. I can still remember the news reporters at the time stationed on top of high buildings describing the bombs exploding in the distance all around the city. They almost used the same words as Nostradamus by saying they saw huge scattered flames of orange-yellow and enormous balls of fire leaping up high in the air. The Normans mentioned in the last verse undoubtably refers to NATO in which France was actually the 2nd largest force in that entire Kosovo air campaign of 1999 comprising a full 10% of all the coalition participants. NATO apologized for the bombing of the Chinese Embassy saying that it occurred as a result of an outdated map provided by the CIA. But China wasn't buying it. Immediately they requested a convening of the U.N. Security Council and condemned the attack demanding an explanation ("proof"😉 while sources claimed the bombing was deliberate based on intelligence that the Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic was to have been in the Embassy at the time. The witch hunters and general skeptics will say this proves nothing and that Nostradamus just missed another prediction, but I say he was absolutely right on yet again and can never and will never be proven wrong.