Storm, Magneto, & Dr. Doom Vs Martian Manhunter, Vision, and Wonderwoman

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you have any idea what definition of "levitation" actually is?

"Levitation is the process by which an object is suspended against gravity, in a stable position, [b]by a force without physical contact."

You picking up something has nothing to do with Magneto being able to manipulate gravitons. LOL @ 2damnstupid grasping at straws here. 😂

Sheer hilarity. [/B]

The comparison is just as good.

I simply made them to show how much one really has nothing to do with the other.

He manipulates the diamagnetic fields.

That's how the frog floated, that's how the strawberry floated in an applied magnetic field😬

It has NOTHING to do with a theoretical particle.

There is no quantized theory for gravity.

Sorry.

Magneto is NOT an heral-level abstract being.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
How about those scientists of yours? 😑

What about them?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
We see where extrapolation can take us ala Magneto generating enough power to combine the four, seperate fundemental forces of the universe (which hasn't been seen most likely since the begining of the universe) on a whim simply because he can manipulate weak diamagnetic fields, when he can't even become one with the EARTH'S magnetic fields without out a machine😬

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The comparison is just as good.

I simply made them to show how much one really has nothing to do with the other.

He manipulates the diamagnetic fields.

That's how the frog floated, that's how the strawberry floated in an applied magnetic field😬

It has NOTHING to do with a theoretical particle.

There is no quantized theory for gravity.

Sorry.

Magneto is NOT an heral-level abstract being.

😂 @ you not being able to admit you were completely wrong. Even with proof, you still ***** about how it's not true. crylaugh

Marvel's word>>>>>>>>>>your's 🙂

And this "theoretical particle" isn't so "theoritical" in comics. How would you explain someone like Graviton?

Regaining credibility for you is an impossibility at this point.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Magneto is NOT an herald-level abstract being.

Wait wait I want to appreciate this. You are saying that Magneto who was once shown in the End I think it was to become a energy elemental of the fundamental forces, is not a herald level abstract being.

Yet you claim, because in the End (or some other alternate X-men universe tangent) that because Storm did the same thing, in her Ultimate form she is a herald level abstract being?

Did I get something wrong??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
What about them?

Marvel bio's>>>>>>>>>>them when it comes to COMIC book science 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
😂 @ you not being able to admit you were completely wrong. Even with proof, you still ***** about how it's not true. crylaugh

Marvel's word>>>>>>>>>>your's 🙂

And this "theoretical particle" isn't so "theoritical" in comics. How would you explain someone like Graviton?

The same way I explained Magneto.

Bios are NOT canon.

It didn't say that ON PANEL.

You lost. 😆

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Wait wait I want to appreciate this. You are saying that Magneto who was once shown in the End I think it was to become a energy elemental of the fundamental forces, is not a herald level abstract being.

Yet you claim, because in the End (or some other alternate X-men universe tangent) that because Storm did the same thing, in her Ultimate form she is a herald level abstract being?

Did I get something wrong??

Yep, you are wrong.

I never used that story to try to solidify Storm's power-levels.

Originally posted by Blair Wind

Marvel bio's>>>>>>>>>>them when it comes to COMIC book science 😬

No bio>>>>>>>>>What Marvel thinks enough of to make Canon ala the Glactic Coreermmhappy.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The same way I explained Magneto.

Bios are NOT canon.

It didn't say that ON PANEL.

You lost. 😆

Bios aren't used for the extent of one's powers... in other words, the "stat system" that they use. However, it's definitive proof when it comes to the list of powers and the information contained under the "Powers/abilities" section.

In his bio, it says he manipulates magnetism, it says his name is Erik Lensherr, and it also says he's a mutant. You want to try and tell me that these are bullshit lies as well? I mean, they ARE stated in a "bio," and bios are bullshit, right? 😂

Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>you, no matter how you cut it. You can keep spouting off real world science (which has absolutely no reason to be in this conversation in the first place) all you like, but it doesn't change this fact.

You're a straight up joke. Nothing else needs to be said from this point on.

Originally posted by batdude123
Bios aren't used for the extent of one's powers... in other words, the "stat system" that they use. However, it's definitive proof when it comes to the list of powers and the information contained under the "Powers/abilities" section.

In his bio, it says he manipulates magnetism, it says his name is Erik Lensherr, and it also says he's a mutant. You want to try and tell me that these are bullshit lies as well? I mean, they ARE stated in a "bio," and bios are bullshit, right? 😂

Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>you, no matter how you cut it. You can keep spouting off real world science (which has absolutely no reason to be in this conversation in the first place) all you like, but it doesn't change this fact.

You're a straight up joke. Nothing else needs to be said from this point on.

The bolded has a canonical correspondence.

This however:

He can manipulate gravitons to create an anti-gravity field, and does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the long-sought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related."

does not.

It's not even scientific.

In any event:

Originally posted by 2damnloud

No bio>>>>>>>>>What Marvel thinks enough of to make Canon ala the Galactic Coreermmhappy.

ermmhappy

Herald-level my ass 😂

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/2884/magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg

Nope, says NOTHING, ziltch, zip, zippo, zero about gravitons.😬

ermmhappy

Originally posted by batdude123
Bios aren't used for the extent of one's powers... in other words, the "stat system" that they use. However, it's definitive proof when it comes to the list of powers and the information contained under the "Powers/abilities" section.

In his bio, it says he manipulates magnetism, it says his name is Erik Lensherr, and it also says he's a mutant. You want to try and tell me that these are bullshit lies as well? I mean, they ARE stated in a "bio," and bios are bullshit, right? 😂

Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>you, no matter how you cut it. You can keep spouting off real world science (which has absolutely no reason to be in this conversation in the first place) all you like, but it doesn't change this fact.

You're a straight up joke. Nothing else needs to be said from this point on.

Two reasons why "those people"(You know who I'm talking about) will never except the written content in bios are:

A.) They believe Storms works on a sub atomic level to carry out her weather manipulation. Apparently they believe she manipulates each and every sub atomic aspect of the weather when creating a storm. While the bios state otherwise, she manipulates pre-existing weather patterns by shifting air currents and electrical patterns.(She's an atmokinetic and can manipulate electrical energy to a degree)

B.) The bio describes the max speed of Storms winds. 😆 (Then they'll post some crappy scan from the X-Men annual and deeply exaggerate the panel art to determine the distance Storm travelled and the time it took)

It's not worth it. I like to pretend that they don't consume precious natural resources. Just keep them on ignore.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Two reasons why "those people"(You know who I'm talking about) will never except the written content in bios are:

A.) They believe Storms works on a sub atomic level to carry out her weather manipulation. Apparently they believe she manipulates each and every sub atomic aspect of the weather when creating a storm. While the bios state otherwise, she manipulates pre-existing weather patterns by shifting air currents and electrical patterns.(She's an atmokinetic and can manipulate electrical energy to a degree)

B.) The bio describes the max speed of Storms winds. 😆 (Then they'll post some crappy scan from the X-Men annual and deeply exaggerate the panel art to determine the distance Storm travelled and the time it took)

It's not worth it. I like to pretend that they don't consume precious natural resources.

Not canonical.

Moving on.ermmhappy

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The bolded has a canonical correspondence.

This however:

does not.

It's not even scientific.

In any event:

ermmhappy

Herald-level my ass 😂

You're case is extremely weak.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're a straight up joke. Nothing else needs to be said from this point on.

Also, I have absolutely no problem with her galactic core feat, and I'll explain why below:

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore15zq.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg

It says in those scans that it required the same amount of effort for her to control it (the galactic core) as it does to control the weather on Earth. The scale of her powers were magnified because of it. How powerful she is depends on the environment she's in. It's the same reason why she was more powerful on Jupiter than she is on Earth. It's also the same reason why she was completely powerless on the blue moon section.

So, in essence, if she's fighting on Earth rather than in the middle of a galactic core (crylaugh), then the feat isn't applicable for her fights. LOL @ that faux feat of her's.

You're done.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Two reasons why "those people"(You know who I'm talking about) will never except the written content in bios are:

A.) They believe Storms works on a sub atomic level to carry out her weather manipulation. Apparently they believe she manipulates each and every sub atomic aspect of the weather when creating a storm. While the bios state otherwise, she manipulates pre-existing weather patterns by shifting air currents and electrical patterns.(She's an atmokinetic and can manipulate electrical energy to a degree)

B.) The bio describes the max speed of Storms winds. 😆 (Then they'll post some crappy scan from the X-Men annual and deeply exaggerate the panel art to determine the distance Storm travelled and the time it took)

It's not worth it. I like to pretend that they don't consume precious natural resources. Just keep them on ignore.

Good point.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're case is extremely weak.

Also, I have absolutely no problem with her galactic core feat, and I'll explain why below:

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore15zq.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg

It says in those scans that it required the same amount of effort for her to control it (the galactic core) as it does to control the weather on Earth. The scale of her powers were magnified because of it. How powerful she is depends on the environment she's in. It's the same reason why she was more powerful on Jupiter than she is on Earth. It's
also the same reason why she was completely powerless on the blue moon section.

So, in essence, if she's fighting on Earth rather than in the middle of a galactic core (crylaugh), then the feat isn't applicable for her fights. LOL @ that faux feat of her's.

You're done.

Nope, the end result is magnified, not her power level or her ability to harness it.

😂@this with a MACHINE no less:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9628/maglightingrodforenergies2bi.jpg

How f*cking sad. 🙁

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Nope, the end result is magnified, not her power level or her ability to harness it.

It's completely unusable for forum battles that take place on Earth. 🙂 Why you constantly bring it up is beyond me. 😆

Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unusable for forum battles that take place on Earth. 🙂 Why you constantly bring it up is beyond me. 😆

Who said I was using it for a forum battle???

I was showing their scope of power using their higher end feats.

His: aided with a machine, and he's totally burnt out on EARTH.

Her: totally unaided, harnesses the Galactic Core.

Him: EMPing the entire world

Her: protecting the entire world with a greenhouse.

He only has 2 world-wide feats. One with a machine aiding him, and one where arguable the fields were mucked up😬

He's a much lower-end energy manipulator than she.

He hasn't even manipulated Gamma radiation yet or anything in an extra-Earth medium.

He's powerful, don't get me wrong. But he's not the second coming.😬

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Who said I was using it for a forum battle???

I was showing their scope of power using their higher end feats.

His: aided with a machine, and he's totally burnt out on EARTH.

Her: totally unaided, harnesses the Galactic Core.

Him: EMPing the entire world

Her: protecting the entire world with a greenhouse.

He only has 2 world-wide feats. One with a machine aiding him, and one where arguable the fields were mucked up😬

He's a much lower-end energy manipulator than she.

He hasn't even manipulated Gamma radiation yet or anything in an extra-Earth medium.

He's powerful, don't get me wrong. But he's not the second coming.😬

With the galactic core feat, the effects of her powers were multiplied BILLIONS of times because of the environment she was in. She'd never be able to do that outside of the core. It's important to give the context behind that feat. Seriously though, it's to be taken with a grain of salt.

And PS: You also forgot the feat where Magneto manipulated the magnetosphere to inhibit all long-ranged telepathy on Earth by creating an impenetrable wall of psychic static.

Well, of course she probably couldn't duplicate the magnitude of the core, because she's not in the core. But I have no doubt that she could focus beams of radiation from the radiation belt around the earth, or Solar winds to create the next best thing to "star-like" intensities on Earth.

I also have no doubt that she can create winds faster than normal, the same way she can create pressures greater than normal.

Bottom line is in this battle both Storm and Mags get a huge power boost. But is it enough?

It's enough for RO.

We haven't seen Mags do hardly anything extra-Earth so I don't know what he could do.

Doom has magic.

With the winds on Jupiter Storm would DUST MM in speed.

While he is phased he can still be affected, otherwise you wouldn't even be able to see him.