Originally posted by charlemagne9746mo it isnt. sorry but i dont agree that scathan os less than lt. i just believe the celestials have power that can do amazing things. he pawned amultiversal threat is all. a celestial. he didnt pawn lt but he did defeat protege.
the Scathan incident is shit writing. Ask Mr. Master, he'll tell you that the LT>>>>>>Scathan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
mo it isnt. sorry but i dont agree that scathan os less than lt. i just believe the celestials have power that can do amazing things. he pawned amultiversal threat is all. a celestial. he didnt pawn lt but he did defeat protege.
Originally posted by quanchi112
mo it isnt. sorry but i dont agree that scathan os less than lt. i just believe the celestials have power that can do amazing things. he pawned amultiversal threat is all. a celestial. he didnt pawn lt but he did defeat protege.
That's not what Mr. M said..... 😗
Originally posted by Mr Master
The BIGGEST PIS in Cosmological history.PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, before any of you confuse yourselves with these Scans.
"My short answer to this issue is that it is illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously. But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.
First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the new One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.
If he were indeed now God, what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head? Can a Celestial muzzle God? And how does the energy blanket restrain this new OAA? By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires." Yes, that's right, the new supreme being of the multiverse is taken down by not being able to see the ends of his feet.
But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto (not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet) in order to restrain Protege. In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal.
To preserve my sanity I ignore the whole mess. If pressed to give an explanation I would say this: there is a history of mortal beings taking on vast powers and erroneously believing they are omnipotent(Doom in Secret Wars 1, Beyonder in Secret Wars 3, Warlock and Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet).
Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still paltry if not non-existent. Clearly he has not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota. Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"
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Originally posted by quanchi112
galan always favors the dc characters. he cant stand it when i consistently prove him wrong. he obviously has no clue who scathan is. he wont respond to this im sure kandy. he ll pretend he never read it.
Originally posted by Estacadodid u read the scan? comic books are illogical by nature. oh and i dont say all people are dc biased only a few when it applies therein.
Why don't you just shut the **** up with your everyone is Dc biased bullshit...
So you think it's normal that Eternity created a being who is above the LT?
It doesn't even make sense.
scathan wins this with ease.
Originally posted by quanchi112
galan always favors the dc characters. he cant stand it when i consistently prove him wrong. he obviously has no clue who scathan is. he wont respond to this im sure kandy. he ll pretend he never read it.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Um, if you check Mr. M's upgraded hierarchy, Scathan is put above LT.
If you ask him why, you got one response to him doing so:
Canon!
So even though how much he hate it and despise it, he stills have to accept it even though he has shown why it should be consideret PIS and not being used in any kind of debate.
Also its strange because in the Handbook it states that LT is second only to TOAA and yet it mentions Scathan as being possible above LT, anyone got a answear to this paradox???
Originally posted by King Kandy
Answer? TOAA is the writer, and the writer can make whoever he wants be the second strongest.
TOAA has also been shown as a comic character.
And we have to go by the fact that we are presented with, and the fact is that in the Handbook it clearly says that the Living Tribunal is below only TOAA but still needed help from Scathan. I'm finding it strange that in the Handbook one mentiones the Living Tribunal as the second most powerful being but still is below Scathan a Celestial. Els I'm agreeing with Mr Master why the incident should be overlooked when arguing about characters powerlevels.
