Omega level mutants

Started by norrinradd435 pages

Is Mr. Immortal even a mutant???

Who is Phantom Daniel Summers?
I haven't heard of him and I'm pretty fond of X-Men and Summers family inparticular.

plus my name's Daniel so I'd think he'd ring a bell. lol

Earthmover is stated to be an omega level magic user 😖hifty:

MJJ whipes the floor with all but Phoenix.

jubilee is on this list?http://en.marveldatabase.com/Category😮mega_Level_Mutants

Most Powerful Mutants would be
Mad Jim Jaspers
Jamie Braddock
Jean Grey (with Phoenix Force )
House of M, Wanda
Franklin Richards

Out of the top, only Jean and Fraklin are confirmed Omega’s.

Magneto is not an omega?

No

Though Omega is just a classification. They have no real limits to how far they can potentially evolve and harness their power (to the point, of potentially replacing cosmic abstracts). While Xavier, Magneto, and Exodus have a designated limit.

Originally posted by id369
No

Though Omega is just a classification. They have no real limits to how far they can potentially evolve and harness their power (to the point, of potentially replacing cosmic abstracts). While Xavier, Magneto, and Exodus have a designated limit.

Term "omega" is loosely used on the board to describe a power level, which is simply wrong.
Omega is a part of "evolving potential" classification- Omegas have unlimited potential, but that doesn't translate into having unlimited powers, neither all Omegas are necessary better than all Alphas.

You can have said "potential" but never develop it during your lifetime.

That's true.
There are Alpha mutants who would crush all Omega mutants (like Jamie Braddock or MJJ).

Jean Grey's WPOTC would be the strongest omega... probably.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That's true.
There are Alpha mutants who would crush all Omega mutants (like Jamie Braddock or MJJ).

Jean Grey's WPOTC would be the strongest omega... probably.

That's why I LOL when in tourney someone writes "I'll boost one's powers to omega level" forgetting that "omega" is a measure of potential and not of power.

isnt Trauma an omega?

Originally posted by Nestical
isnt Trauma an omega?

Nope. The list of classified Omegas:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The first usage of the word "omega" in the context referring to Omega mutants in X-Men Forever in 2001 -
Jean Grey and Iceman:
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The following uses of the term all occur after the meaning outlined above is applied to the use of the term Omega mutant and serve as official confirmation of the character as an Omega mutant.
Jean Grey again and Quentin Quire:
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More Quentin Quire:
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Franklin Richards:
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Mr M:
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Iceman again:
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Vulcan:
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Elixir:
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The one-off use of the word "omega" in 1986, "Class Omega Contact" about Rachel. Nimrod is not referring to the later defined Alpha, Beta, Epsilon system used by Apocalypse, nor is he alluding to the same meaning as was written in 2001.
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Nimrod identified non-mutants as "Contacts." Which means the classification used, applied not only to mutants but to non-mutants as well. And therefore the use of the phrase "Class Omega Contact" does not hold the same meaning as the use of the word "omega" in the context of mutants exclusively 15 years subsequently.

Additionally, the Nimrod's classification is based upon how much of a threat the person, mutant or non-mutant, is to Nimrod.
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The entry for Rachel Summers in The 198 Files, the same type of entry as the ones above for Iceman, Elixir, Quentin Quire, Franklin and Mr M:
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No mention of the term Omega mutant.
And I'm unaware of anything else, since 2001, that would label her an Omega.

There are no other instances where the term Omega mutant has been applied unambiguously to characters, without qualifiers such as potentially or possibly.

The officially confirmed 7 Omegas are therefore:
Jean Grey
Iceman (Bobby Drake)
Kid Omega (Quentin Quire)
Mister M (Absolom Mercator)
Franklin Richards
Vulcan (Gabriel Summers)
Elixir (Josh Foley)

(On a side-note, 'twas funny looking through that old Omega mutant thread.)

Since some people misinterpet Omega as power measure, they label every single powerful mutant as Omega, which isn't true. The only difference between Alphas and Omegas is that Alphas have "final point" of evolution- which can, however, be placed as high as multiversal level being (just that they can't evolve beyond that).

Similiarly, an Omega level mutant may not reach even 1% of his potential during his life. So we can label even a nobody like Gypsy Moth as Omega level mutant...not making her ungodly powerful, just saying she can theoretically evolve to unlimited heights.

Omega is the potential measure term, not power level measure term.

maybe all the remaining mutants are all omegas. anybody ever think of that? probably the reason why they were able to retain their powers after m day....hmmmmm

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
maybe all the remaining mutants are all omegas. anybody ever think of that? probably the reason why they were able to retain their powers after m day....hmmmmm

Sounds like one funny theory

Jaspers should be an omega mutant, as he certainly has unlimited potential.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Sounds like one funny theory

And wrong.

Also, Magneto is an omega level mutant, although this wasn't stated directly.

Originally posted by Bentley
Jaspers should be an omega mutant, as he certainly has unlimited potential.

"Potential" here is used not in terms "how many cool things can be done with one's power" but "how far one can evolve". The whole Omega term in the sence we use it was taken from mutant evolution stage classification.

Originally posted by Philosophía
And wrong.

Also, Magneto is an omega level mutant, although this wasn't stated directly.

Once again, Omega isn't the power level measure. Magneto has already reached his evolution peak from what we know.

So a mutant who can boost its own evolution like Jaspers is not an omega, its supposed to have naturally right?

Originally posted by Bentley
So a mutant who can boost its own evolution like Jaspers is not an omega, its supposed to have naturally right?

Darwin and Lifeguard were never considered Omegas directly, even though their power is evolving.
In fact. Omega is ridiculous term and the only thing we know for sure is that it deals with potential and not powerlevel.