Originally posted by Violent2DopeNo one's claiming someone from Tekken is a world-leveler, if you mean it literally and if they can do it in a matter of seconds...but Jinpachi, Devil Within Ogre, and especially T5 Ending Devil Jin can destroy the world in a matter of days or less.
1. I'm saying when did Tekken fighters turn into world levelers?2. Actually, saying their endurance is hereditary is just stupid, when Kazuya was sent down the volcano by his dad, he would have died if it were not for Devil, the only non-Devil Mishima who shows great endurance is Hach.
3. That was not what you said, you said he was not superhuman, when he clearly is. With his hadoukens(which take less time to fire than the Devil's beams) he could level a forest in a few shots and blew holes through skyscapers(that was also young Ryu). He fought Gouki to a standstill, and beating Jinpachi and Ogre is debatable, tho I will not argue with you on this, make a thread about it.
4. Now you missed my point, also, fighting skills are not genetic, as shown by how Kazuya was a weak pussy before the volcano incident. My point is that Devils are naturally stronger than Kazamas, it's the Kazama purifying power they fear.
5. You take the term "wiping out all of existence" too seriously. They only meant he would kill the world's inhabitants and wreck the landscape over a period of time, not make the planet go boom.
6. Shin Gouki and normal Gouki are the same person, I'm aware of this, only Shin uses his full power. If you could provide proof to prove it was Shin, I shall concede this argument, and also, at what point in SF did this event take place? Also, I personally think his island busting feat was more impressive.
7. I'm fine, it's just a debate.hug
The Mishima bloodline is cursed...and while Heihachi is THE only non-devil Mishima that has shown great durability on his own, Jin and Kazuya would pwn him with their devilish powers. This is the kind of power that it takes to actually put Heihachi down. JACKs self-destructing and KOing him for weeks is a result of having been KO'd a minute before by half-devil Jin.
I agree Ryu is much more than an average human...and I'd bet that he can destroy a forest AS Evil Ryu, not Ryu, as the type of Hadoukens that took to wreck that building from the Alpha movie was done by Evil Ryu. No way in hell do those take less time than DJ's beams, It literally took Ryu at least 10-13 seconds to charge that building-wrecking Hadouken. A Hadouken in-game is something else. Jin's beam took 1-2 seconds to fire in the T6 extended trailer and sliced a skyscraper with little effort. So...what the hell. A Ryu vs. Jinpachi thread was made and was thought to be a spite thread against Ryu.
I don't think Kazuya used any of Devil's power in the first tournament to put down Heihachi as he was only Devil in Tekken 2. Also considering the Alpha movie's being used all the time how 'bout we use the Tekken animated movie as a reference. Kazuya in that movie was strong enough to rip apart 10 foot dinosaurs and punch their eyes out, as normal Kazuya by the way.
No one's claiming he can make the planet go boom FFS. Stop saying that please.
...How did Akuma get into this?
Originally posted by Guilty GearSado did, read his posts. Devil Within's canonicity is still unknown(your link didn't even mention it FL), so I don't like using it. Days? How fast do you think Jinpachi is dude? The only power that can put Hachi down? That's an overstatement, the likes of Gouki(I don't even need to go into DS) can take out Hachi. The skyscaper destroying feat was Alpha Ryu powerwise, after Oro's training he's much stronger than he ever was evil. The SF Alpha movie was stated to show the powers of the characters at the time Alpha took place. No idea how Gouki got into this.
No one's claiming someone from Tekken is a world-leveler, if you mean it literally and if they can do it in a matter of seconds...but Jinpachi, Devil Within Ogre, and especially T5 Ending Devil Jin can destroy the world in a matter of days or less.The Mishima bloodline is cursed...and while Heihachi is THE only non-devil Mishima that has shown great durability on his own, Jin and Kazuya would pwn him with their devilish powers. This is the kind of power that it takes to actually put Heihachi down. JACKs self-destructing and KOing him for weeks is a result of having been KO'd a minute before by half-devil Jin.
I agree Ryu is much more than an average human...and I'd bet that he can destroy a forest AS Evil Ryu, not Ryu, as the type of Hadoukens that took to wreck that building from the Alpha movie was done by Evil Ryu. No way in hell do those take less time than DJ's beams, It literally took Ryu at least 10-13 seconds to charge that building-wrecking Hadouken. A Hadouken in-game is something else. Jin's beam took 1-2 to seconds to fire in the T6 extended trailer and sliced a skyscraper with little effort. So...what the hell. A Ryu vs. Jinpachi thread was made and was thought to be a spite thread against Ryu.
I don't think Kazuya used any of Devil's power in the first tournament to put down Heihachi...though I could be wrong. Also considering the Alpha movie's being used all the time how 'bout we use the Tekken animated movie as a reference. Kazuya in that movie was strong enough to rip apart 10 foot dinosaurs and punch their eyes out.
No one's claiming he can make the planet go boom FFS. Stop saying that please.
...How did Akuma get into this?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeNo, he did not. He said it isn't known how long it would take. As I already said, WHETHER OR NOT DW is canon, it is still allowed in the forum if a thread starter allows it to be discussed, and I never gave a link to try to prove it was canon. Alright, I was estimating how long it would take them to do that, however, Devil Within Ogre has shaken the planet during a moment in Devil Within. Jinpachi has been seen doing just that in his ending right before he blasted off, and Devil Jin in his T5 ending released an energy burst that annihilated everything around him...those are very impressive capabilities. Neither did I way it was the only power that can take him down. I said that is the kind of power, as in the level of power, that it takes to put down Heihachi. Once again, it took Evil Ryu to wreck the building. Watch the 4th part of the Street Fighter Alpha movie on youtube. Please prove that after Oro's training Ryu was much more powerful than he was as Evil Ryu in the movie.
Sado did, read his posts. Devil Within's canonicity is still unknown(your link didn't even mention it FL), so I don't like using it. Days? How fast do you think Jinpachi is dude? The only power that can put Hachi down? That's an overstatement, the likes of Gouki(I don't even need to go into DS) can take out Hachi. The skyscaper destroying feat was Alpha Ryu powerwise, after Oro's training he's much stronger than he ever was evil. The SF Alpha movie was stated to show the powers of the characters at the time Alpha took place. No idea how Gouki got into this.
Originally posted by Guilty GearDid the thread starter allow it? Did DW Ogre shake the whole planet, or just the earth(the ground around him)? Jinpachi only shook the earth around him, not the whole friggin planet. DJ with Jinpachi's power is DEFINATELY not canon, and would be too overpowered for words. After Oro's training, Ryu is 50 years old, has fought more than 1,000 opponents, and was trained by someone who is second only to Gouki himself.
No, he did not. He said it isn't known how long it would take. As I already said, WHETHER OR NOT DW is canon, it is still allowed in the forum if a thread starter allows it to be discussed, and I never gave a link to try to prove it was canon. Alright, I was estimating how long it would take them to do that, however, Devil Within Ogre has shaken the planet during a moment in Devil Within. Jinpachi has been seen doing just that in his ending right before he blasted off, and Devil Jin in his T5 ending released an energy burst that annihilated everything around him...those are very impressive capabilities. Neither did I way it was the only power that can take him down. I said that is the kind of power, as in the level of power, that it takes to put down Heihachi. Once again, it took Evil Ryu to wreck the building. Watch the 4th part of the Street Fighter Alpha movie on youtube. Please prove that after Oro's training Ryu was much more powerful than he was as Evil Ryu in the movie.
1. I'm saying when did Tekken fighters turn into world levelers?
2. Actually, saying their endurance is hereditary is just stupid, when Kazuya was sent down the volcano by his dad, he would have died if it were not for Devil, the only non-Devil Mishima who shows great endurance is Hach.
3. That was not what you said, you said he was not superhuman, when he clearly is. With his hadoukens(which take less time to fire than the Devil's beams) he could level a forest in a few shots and blew holes through skyscapers(that was also young Ryu). He fought Gouki to a standstill, and beating Jinpachi and Ogre is debatable, tho I will not argue with you on this, make a thread about it.
4. Now you missed my point, also, fighting skills are not genetic, as shown by how Kazuya was a weak pussy before the volcano incident. My point is that Devils are naturally stronger than Kazamas, it's the Kazama purifying power they fear.
5. You take the term "wiping out all of existence" too seriously. They only meant he would kill the world's inhabitants and wreck the landscape over a period of time, not make the planet go boom.
6. Shin Gouki and normal Gouki are the same person, I'm aware of this, only Shin uses his full power. If you could provide proof to prove it was Shin, I shall concede this argument, and also, at what point in SF did this event take place? Also, I personally think his island busting feat was more impressive.
7. I'm fine, it's just a debate.
~Sado
Originally posted by Violent2DopeI'm saying, it's allowed in threads where it's allowed...this thread doesn't involve DW, and even if it did, it wouldn't make DJ any more powerful. All of his moves and powers are also in Tekken 5..
Did the thread starter allow it? Did DW Ogre shake the whole planet, or just the earth(the ground around him)? Jinpachi only shook the earth around him, not the whole friggin planet. DJ with Jinpachi's power is DEFINATELY not canon, and would be too overpowered for words. After Oro's training, Ryu is 50 years old, has fought more than 1,000 opponents, and was trained by someone who is second only to Gouki himself.
It mentions that he shook the Earth and refers to the same "Earth" as the world itself. It mentions it twice in the 5th prologue of DW.
You don't know that do you? At least what we can confirm is that he shook that whole landscape in the background and quite effectively as well. Also, Jinpachi is THE most powerful Tekken character. Something Ogre has done can without a doubt be replicated by Jinpachi. T5 Ending DJ, once again, does not have to be canon in order to be valid - the rule the explains this is canon and noncanon characters are allowed if the thread starter says so. I'm not saying it's allowed here. I'm just pointing out that fact...
I'm not going to believe that normal Ryu who hasn't feats to back up the claim that he's stronger than Evil Ryu, is more powerful than E. Ryu.
Originally posted by Sado22tighthug
*refuses to post gayass hug smilies* 😠~Sado
Originally posted by Guilty GearReally tho, if he shook the whole planet, people would be dying from Earthquakes and buildings would be toppling over. And just because Jinpachi is stronger does not mean he can replicate everything TO can do, but I agree that as far as fighting games go, the endings can be used to judge abilities.
[B]I'm saying, it's allowed in threads where it's allowed...this thread doesn't involve DW, and even if it did, it wouldn't make DJ any more powerful. All of his moves and powers are also in Tekken 5..It mentions that he shook the Earth and refers to the same "Earth" as the world itself. It mentions it twice in the 5th prologue of DW.
You don't know that do you? At least what we can confirm is that he shook that whole landscape in the background and quite effectively as well. Also, Jinpachi is THE most powerful Tekken character. Something Ogre has done can without a doubt be replicated by Jinpachi. T5 Ending DJ, once again, does not have to be canon in order to be valid - the rule the explains this is canon and noncanon characters are allowed if the thread starter says so. I'm not saying it's allowed here. I'm just pointing out that fact...
I'm not going to believe that normal Ryu who hasn't feats to back up the claim that he's stronger than Evil Ryu, is more powerful than E. Ryu.
...There were no buildings or people to see in the Final Stage. Even Asuka pointed that out when she was calling for help when she saw Jin unconscious on the floor.
Alright, though Jinpachi did shake the landscape in the background with a power-up. That's quite impressive and not to mention he was still in the process of reaching his final transformation, as his ending describes it.