Superman and Wonder Woman vs Magneto and Juggernaut no BFR

Started by Wei Phoenix10 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman and Wonder Woman can break his Force Field?

That's you're opinion.

Well are you going to prove my opinion wrong? I have asked for proof or evidence to what you believe and you have dodged my request. Mags shield is not impenetrable and Superman who has incredible strength feats can break it. Now once again can you provide evidence as to why they can't break it when Mjolnir itself is able to do so? Show me something that says his it has gotten stronger to the point where Hulk, Mjolnir or any top tier brute can break through it.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well are you going to prove my opinion wrong? I have asked for proof or evidence to what you believe and you have dodged my request. Mags shield is not impenetrable and Superman who has incredible strength feats can break it. Now once again can you provide evidence as to why they can't break it when Mjolnir itself is able to do so? Show me something that says his it has gotten stronger to the point where Hulk, Mjolnir or any top tier brute can break through it.

How did I dodge anything?

Did you miss my last post?

You asked me to prove a negative.

How exactly can I prove, that Wonder Woman and Superman specifically cannot break the Force Field?

I can't, as they have never meet, but I posted evidence that shows, that it has withstood sufficient assault to prove that it can withstand their assault. It withstood attacks from Thor and She-Hulk, Galactus, Phoenix, Apocalypse etc. without breaking. That in my opinion more than justifies that it can withstand an assault from Superman or Wonder Woman.

Did you miss my last post?

I have to ask again. What the hell is wrong with you?

You are using an encounter from the 1960's as the basis of you're argument when it obviously doesn't apply anymore.

Magneto current > Magneto from 1960's

By a margin.

He has gotten various upgrades, and is portrayed as significantly more powerful. Hence why back then it could not withstand a barrage from Mjolnir, but more recently it could.

What don't you get exactly?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How did I dodge anything?

Did you miss my last post?

You asked me to prove a negative.

How exactly can I prove, that Wonder Woman and Superman specifically cannot break the Force Field?

I can't, as they have never meet, but I posted evidence that shows, that it has withstood sufficient assault to prove that it can withstand their assault. It withstood attacks from Thor and She-Hulk, Galactus, Phoenix, Apocalypse etc. without breaking. That in my opinion more than justifies that it can withstand an assault from Superman or Wonder Woman.

Did you miss my last post?

I have to ask again. What the hell is wrong with you?

You are using an encounter from the 1960's as the basis of you're argument when it obviously doesn't apply anymore.

Magneto current > Magneto from 1960's

By a margin.

He has gotten various upgrades, and is portrayed as significantly more powerful. Hence why back then it could not withstand a barrage from Mjolnir, but more recently it could.

What don't you get exactly?

So only Magneto has gotten more powerful?

Do you think Magneto can withstand Thor's shots indefinitely?

Do you think Magneto will ever tire?

Originally posted by Spire
So only Magneto has gotten more powerful?

Do you think Magneto can withstand Thor's shots indefinitely?

Do you think Magneto will ever tire?


+1

I don't think his forcefield could withstand Mjolnir shots from a non-jobbing current Thor w/ Odinforce.

Magneto cannot withstand his assault indefinitely and that goes for Superman as well, but Magneto isn't standing there and letting them both pound on his Force Field non stop until it eventually gives way.

Magneto isn't the only one whose gotten more powerful over the years. Who said otherwise?

Magneto does incredible stamina and can augment it with his other phsical abilities, but he will tire eventually.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
+1

I don't think his forcefield could withstand Mjolnir shots from a non-jobbing current Thor w/ Odinforce.

Doesn't matter if he can or cannot as:

Thor with Odin Force > Superman or Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Magneto cannot withstand his assault indefinitely and that goes for Superman as well, but Magneto isn't standing there and letting them both pound on his Force Field non stop until it eventually gives way.

Really? Like what is he going to be doing, while he is trying his hardest to keep his shield up?

Magneto isn't the only one whose gotten more powerful over the years. Who said otherwise?

Then dont write stuff like this:

You are using an encounter from the 1960's as the basis of you're argument when it obviously doesn't apply anymore.

Magneto current > Magneto from 1960's

Magneto does incredible stamina and can augment it with his other phsical abilities, but he will tire eventually.

His shield is gonna be dropping quick.

Originally posted by Spire
Really? Like what is he going to be doing, while he is trying his hardest to keep his shield up?

Magneto won't need to divert all his power, to his defense. If that was the case, they aren't breaking through his Force Field.

He will be retaliating and attacking Superman and/or Wonder Woman with Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Spire
Then dont write stuff like this:

What the hell are you talking about?

I simply said that, because his argument was based on a fight that happened in the 1960's, when Magneto has gotten significantly more powerful.

What point are you trying to make?

I don't even understand what you're trying to get across.

Originally posted by Spire
His shield is gonna be dropping quick.

You should read more about Magneto then.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Magneto won't need to divert all his power, to his defense. If that was the case, they aren't breaking through his Force Field.

He will be retaliating and attacking Superman and/or Wonder Woman with Juggernaut.

As soon a the fight starts they take to the sky and wail on Magneto, ignoring Juggs.

If you think he is going to be able to multitask while being blitzed by Supes and WW... then its a non issue for me and I won't discuss it with you further because I'm not licensed by the state to deal with psychotic individuals.

What the hell are you talking about?

I simply said that, because his argument was based on a fight that happened in the 1960's, when Magneto has gotten significantly more powerful.

What point are you trying to make?

I don't even understand what you're trying to get across.

That other people got powered up of over the years as well.

You should read more about Magneto then.

I haven't read any Magneto.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How did I dodge anything?

Did you miss my last post?

You asked me to prove a negative.

How exactly can I prove, that Wonder Woman and Superman specifically cannot break the Force Field?

I can't, as they have never meet, but I posted evidence that shows, that it has withstood sufficient assault to prove that it can withstand their assault. It withstood attacks from Thor and She-Hulk, Galactus, Phoenix, Apocalypse etc. without breaking. That in my opinion more than justifies that it can withstand an assault from Superman or Wonder Woman.

Did you miss my last post?

I have to ask again. What the hell is wrong with you?

You are using an encounter from the 1960's as the basis of you're argument when it obviously doesn't apply anymore.

Magneto current > Magneto from 1960's

By a margin.

He has gotten various upgrades, and is portrayed as significantly more powerful. Hence why back then it could not withstand a barrage from Mjolnir, but more recently it could.

What don't you get exactly?

You can prove it by comparing the durability feats of his shield to the strength feats of WW and Superman. As I said Galactus and Phoenix didn't use physical force to try and break it, thats a big difference.

Originally posted by Spire
As soon a the fight starts they take to the sky and wail on Magneto, ignoring Juggs.

If you think he is going to be able to multitask while being blitzed by Supes and WW... then its a non issue for me and I won't discuss it with you further because I'm not licensed by the state to deal with psychotic individuals.

You don't read much about Magneto, do you?

He fights multiple opponents off teams all the time. Magneto is extremely experienced and skilled in multitasking against multiple opponents. Whether it's the X-men or Avengers.

He is obviously capable of attacking the two,as with his shield up, he can focus on attacking while being safe at the same time.

Those two aren't taking down Magneto with speed blitzing. Don't you know he comes into fights with a Force Field on.

Originally posted by Spire
That other people got powered up of over the years as well.

What does this prove exactly?

Originally posted by Spire
I haven't read any Magneto.

That much is obvious.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You can prove it by comparing the durability feats of his shield to the strength feats of WW and Superman. As I said Galactus and Phoenix didn't use physical force to try and break it, thats a big difference.

Which I've done, and based on the fact that it can withstand attacks from Thor and She-Hulk without straining it can withstand attacks here as well.

Beings like Galactus, and Phoenix are beyond simple physical attacks. Hell, it's a bigger feat withstand an assault that isn't purely physical. Besides we've seen how well physical attacks do against his Force Field. Like he said, no mere physical attack is breaching his Force Field.

Anything Galactus unleashes whether physical or energy based > Superman and Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't read much about Magneto, do you?

He fights multiple opponents off teams all the time. Magneto is extremely experienced and skilled in multitasking against multiple opponents. Whether it's the X-men or Avengers.

He is obviously capable of attacking the two,as with his shield up, he can focus on attacking while being safe at the same time.

Those two aren't taking down Magneto with speed blitzing. Don't you know he comes into fights with a Force Field on.

Yeah which is totally comparable to a 2v1 blitz from Superman and Wonder Woman with KMC rules in play.

What does this prove exactly?

I'm not gonna spell it out for you.

A monkey could make the connection.

That much is obvious.

I'm like 99% positive that an EMP blast from Magneto would practically atomize Diana.

Team 1 wins. these 2 marvel losers are out of their league

Originally posted by Spire
Yeah which is totally comparable to a 2v1 blitz from Superman and Wonder Woman with KMC rules in play.

You referred to him having his handles full attacking two different opponents. I simply showed that, he can handle fighting two different opponents, even though they are both extremely powerful.

He isn't being speed blitzed. Not with his Force Field.

Originally posted by Spire
I'm not gonna spell it out for you.

A monkey could make the connection.

That much is obvious.

I want to hear it from you though.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Team 1 wins. these 2 marvel losers are out of their league
Can you prove it?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix

What's this scan supposed to prove?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's this scan supposed to prove?

I was thinking the same thing....