Originally posted by Zhao
What are you talking about?How is this relevant?
The fight that is referenced where magneto split Apoc apart is from the Age of Apocalypse...an alternate reality...thats what i am talking about
Have a fight- two on one- and then make it a one on one, do you think that after fighting a two on one....it might be a little harder since you were being beat by two? Nate grey was created to kill Apoc...and was on his way then magneto joined him in beating apoc...if you dont think its not relevant..then i think one of us is not thinking clearly
Magneto only beats Apacolypse via PIS. Magneto had to use magnetic energies to "grip" Poccy and tear him apart. Poccy has the ability to absorb and rechannel energies used against him via Bishop. On top of this, he is VERY dense which would mean it should be VERY hard to tear him apart. The first ability alone would nullify Magneto being able to pull this stunt. The second part of his power (which is why he is class 100) makes it even more ridiculous.
Powerful characters well beyond Magneto's power class are constantly being written down in Magneto arcs (Storm, Phoenix, Apacolypse, Thor to name a few) as they display MUCH higher power levels in arcs not involving him than what they are given in his arcs and posters here wonder why I don't respect Magneto...
Originally posted by FrothByte
magneto is now able to control atoms???? show me, where?
Well when he moves ermm
Oh yeah and he once made a metal/plastic comb out of air. A couple other things.
Nothing consistent afaik but always nice to bring up when he's in a rut. Sorta like we do with Storm or Hulk or Wolverine or Darkseid or [INSERT NAME OF BELOVED COMICBOOK CHARACTER]
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well when he moves ermmOh yeah and he once made a metal/plastic comb out of air. A couple other things.
Nothing consistent afaik but always nice to bring up when he's in a rut. Sorta like we do with Storm or Hulk or Wolverine or Darkseid or [INSERT NAME OF BELOVED COMICBOOK CHARACTER]
Magneto had to strain like he was constapated to create that itty bitty comb by pulling atoms together. Poccy's body structure is MUCH more dense and durable than that comb was and again, he had to use magnetic energies. Poccy can absorb that.
Without outside assistance, Apocalypse cannot defeat Magneto. Part of Apocalypse's molecular composition is nano-technology based. Furthermore, Apocalypse is partially metallic. Magneto controls electromagnetism, which means that he has absolute control of the material Apocalypse is made out of and the energy it runs on. Apocalypse is a sitting duck.
Furthermore, Apocalypse has the techno-organic virus, which makes him completely vulnerable to Magneto. We know that Magneto can work with the techno-organic virus because he took apart the parts of Cable's body that were infected with it in "Fatal Attractions," and he was able to manipulate Warlock (which his race, the Technarchy, is the source of the virus) and the infected Sym when he was with the New Mutants.
Magneto already defeated Apocalypse twice; in HOM and in AOA. Almost easily, as a matter of fact.
Magneto defeated Apocalypse twice in the comics. That should speak for itself.
Magneto would easily win by ripping Apocalypse to pieces. Magneto has complete control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum and can draw energy and power from Earth's magnetic field. Even if Apocalypse tried to teleport, he would fail because Magneto has been able to sense when/where Nightcrawler is about to appear, and even re-route Kurt to appear somewhere else. Nightcrawler navigates along lines of electromagnetic force (similar to the way birds and fish navigate when they migrate). If Cyclops can kill Apocalypse, then so can Magneto. Furthermore, Magneto can open a black hole right on top of, or right next to, Apocalypse, open a wormhole and send him through cold outer space, blast him with electric bolts, etc. Magneto has complete control over the electromagnetic force (which is one of the four fundamental forces in the Universe), which binds all matter together. Therefore, Magneto can "unbind" Apocalypse, if you will. Apocalypse's healing factor will not be useful when he is in pieces. Magneto has also prevented mutants from using their powers by manipulating the bio-electric signals between the neurons in their nervous systems. He has actually frozen the entire group of X-men (from all the books) in place this way.
We are talking about a character who has released a worldwide electromagnetic pulse, stopped the planet from rotating, withstood blasts from Thor, Galactus and the Phoenix, yanked satellites out of orbit and withstood the detonation of several nuclear weapons.
Even at full power, Apocalypse is outclassed here.
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Magneto defeated Apocalypse twice in the comics. That should speak for itself.
Wolverine defeated Magneto (and for that matter in 616).
Now. Let's go.
AoA (not canon):
Apocalypse defeats Magneto + Bishop first. Apocalypse could kill Magneto on more than one occasion. Even at the very end when he was choking him, he could tear his head off in split second. He literally lost, because he must lose. Some people like to bring Magneto tore him split, but don't say that Apocalypse could tear Magneto easier than Magneto him. He lost only because he had to lose, literally.
HoM (not continuity):
Wanda is Magneto daughter, why did you expect.
I see Apocalypse at full power crushing Magneto just as easily as he did Stryfe. He crushes him.