Magneto VS Apocalypse

Originally posted by pinksushi1
In AOA, it was Holocaust who easily absorbed Sunfire's nuclear level plasma blasts, while Apocalypse was slightly weakened and had to return home to rejuvenate.

In Ultimate universe Apocalypse was a beast of the first order.

Apocalypse stomps him.

At Xplosive:

Sorry, but you will have to please read my previous posts and refute them. magneto is above APocalypse.
What makes Ultimate universe Apocalypse special?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
At Xplosive:

Sorry, but you will have to please read my previous posts and refute them. magneto is above APocalypse.
What makes Ultimate universe Apocalypse special?

I read your posts. One of the worst posts ever. You are so much talking about Magneto controlling electromagnetic fields, what do you think telekinesis or telepaths or any other are using (they are all using the same, just in a different way, thus different powers), except that Magneto is more limited than powerful telekinetic.

You are saying Magneto would overpower Apocalypse molecular control (which he wouldn't come close) and then saying AoA is evidence. WTF!?
Then I can say that Magneto would be a joke to Ultimate Apocalypse and wouldn't come close to overpowering him. That is evidence that Magneto can't overpower Apocalypse.
I don't know what you don't get. It's not 616. Forget about AoA.

Apocalypse stomps Magneto 10/10.

Wait, are you saying that science can't be trusted? Having complete control over the electromagnetic force speaks for itself.

Magneto is more limited than any telekinetic? Really? Explain, please.

You still haven't told me what is so special about Ultimate Apocalypse.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Having complete control over the electromagnetic force speaks for itself.

One of the reason why I said joke posts.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
You still haven't told me what is so special about Ultimate Apocalypse.

He pretty much beat whole Earth by brute force, only to be stopped by full power of The Phoenix Force.

LOL. Why is that a joke post? I am befuddled.

Magneto also defeated Phoenix. So what. LOL.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Magneto only beats Apacolypse via PIS. Magneto had to use magnetic energies to "grip" Poccy and tear him apart. Poccy has the ability to absorb and rechannel energies used against him via Bishop. On top of this, he is VERY dense which would mean it should be VERY hard to tear him apart. The first ability alone would nullify Magneto being able to pull this stunt. The second part of his power (which is why he is class 100) makes it even more ridiculous.

Powerful characters well beyond Magneto's power class are constantly being written down in Magneto arcs (Storm, Phoenix, Apacolypse, Thor to name a few) as they display MUCH higher power levels in arcs not involving him than what they are given in his arcs and posters here wonder why I don't respect Magneto...

Apocalypse can try to absorb Magneto's electromagnetic energies, but Magneto can overpower his energy absorption ability. Cyclops killed Apocalypse once. If Cyclops can overpower Apocalypse's energy absorption ability, then so can Magneto, since he draws power and energy from Earth's magnetic field, which gives him limitless strength, power and energy. Obviously, this would put a strain on Magneto, but it would get the job done.

If Magneto has the power to stop the planet from rotating, release a worldwide electromagnetic pulse, open wormholes, create black holes, yank satellites from outer orbit or stop someone from using their powers, then Magneto should have the power to rip Apocalypse to pieces.

Furthermore, Apocalypse has the TO virus, has a metallic armor suit and most of his powers are technology based. This makes him especially vulnerable to Magneto. Magneto defeated Cable because he could manipulate the TO virus that he had. Obviously, Magneto can manipulate the metal on Apocalypse's suit.

The only chance in which Apocalypse can defeat Magneto is if he uses Celestial Technology. However, I agree that Magneto seems to have defeated Apocalypse in only Magneto centered story arcs.

By the way, Magneto is a borderline Omega-level mutant. A borderline Omega-level mutant. Apocalypse is only an Alpha-level mutant. They are both still very powerful though. If Magneto is at full power, then Apocalypse loses. If Magneto is not at full power, then Apocalypse wins.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Exactly he can control Mag's body. Apocalypse is a mid-high herald level character.

He has gone toe-to-toe with the High Evo, and Loki. He has defeated the inhumans + BlackBolt. He has defeated Ikaris.

Really there isn't much Mags can do to a non-jobbing Nur. and please don't bring alternative realities into this.

Apoc. can't control Magneto's body. On the other hand, Magneto can control Apocalypse's body.

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Science and physics don't really apply in comics. Have we ever created a device that can nullify something?

Originally posted by galactusischere
Science and physics don't really apply in comics. Have we ever created a device that can nullify something?

Why not? Only reality warping and magic can defy science and physics.

What about nullifying something? Point?

Ultimate Nullifier. Celestial Nullifier. etc.

Electromagnetism is the force that binds all matter together. Magneto has complete control over that force and can therefore "unbind" Apoc. It would strain Magneto, but he will do it.

he'd probably strain himself to a coma doing it to apocalypse, i mean where do we draw the line here? people wouldn't be so gung ho if it was superman he tried to dissipate, and he doesn't have total molecular control of his own atomic structure to the atom.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Wait, are you saying that science can't be trusted? Having complete control over the electromagnetic force speaks for itself.

Magneto is more limited than any telekinetic? Really? Explain, please.

You still haven't told me what is so special about Ultimate Apocalypse.

Magneto chokes him out with his own arm tubes. As for Magneto straining, hes effortlessly lifted astroid M, his shields have blocked multiple nukes, and hes taken hits from Thor and mocked him. Its kind of a stretch to assume Apocaylpse has no metal within his body considering all the tech implants.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Magneto doesn't have control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum as you said on the last page, that's a ridiculous assertion.

Actually you are the ridicolous one. It is fairly basic knowledge of Mags` powers.
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3257/magelectromagnetic3gu.jpg

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Magneto doesn't have control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum as you said on the last page, that's a ridiculous assertion.

And there it goes your credibility 🙂

Mags is so underrated.. ppl think of him as a someone who only can throw metal and shield himself. Others think of Apoc as a simple shapeshifter who also happens to be able to fire energy blasts. People should really check out their respect threads before making fools of themselves.

Magneto.

And yeah, not a lot of people know of Mag's full power set.

I believe that 1 day we will have them fighting over in 616 - and it'd be epic.

P.S. Even in AoA Poccy had Mags on ropes and didn't kill him just because he thought it was funnyer that way. He KOed him in their first encounter with ease, for example. He only lost due to being villain in the end...