Animated Goku vs. Animated Superman

Name an LOS Superman speed feat that exceeds Goku's best ones, such as;

flying from his space ship to the Ginyu force instantly, (It's been stated that Namek is much larger than Earth.)

passing a rock that he threw in a milli-second.

dodging Freeza's death beam.

Travelling to edge of galaxy from Earth to fight Controllers.

Confirmed to be faster than faster than light spaceship

X flew to the sun and back in moments.

Countless inter stellar trips.

It's been stated that Namek is much larger than Earth.

No it wasn't. Frieza just referred to how tough it was. According to Bulma its conditions were the same as Earths. You want to suggest Bulma is stronger than the Goku who fough Raditz?

Given that Vegeta is 10 times larger than Earth, which it is.

Vegeta is 10 times Earths Gravity. Nothing shows it was also 10 times as large. King kais plaent had 10 times earth gravity and was about 100ft across.

Besides thats not how spheres work. Lets use volume here rather than mass but still proves the point (for two spheres of equal density)

You think increasing a spheres mass by a factor of 10 everything on the surface must get 10 times bigger. Thats not how it works. An increase of radius of 10 times equals an increase in volume and thus mass of 1000 times.

V = 4/3*pi*R^3. The cube on the radius makes this effect happen.

Travelling to edge of galaxy from Earth to fight Controllers..

Is that over 10-15 times Warp Speed, cause Super Saiyan Goku at the end of the Boo Saga was over 10-15 times faster than he was in the Freeza Saga. Not to mention SSJ2.

Confirmed to be faster than faster than light spaceship

Goku can move at light speed too, and at Super Saiyan he can move much faster.

X flew to the sun and back in moments.

Goku's Kameha can do travel faster, so if Superman decides to go to the sun, Goku will fire one and kill him.

Countless inter stellar trips.

And?

Here is proof that Goku can move faster than light speed, energy is mass times the speed of light squared, so Goku would have had to of moved faster than four times the speed of light in order to escape Freeza's paralyzing force field when it exploded. 😛

Wait, let me further explain that proof.

Now the surface of an explosion doesn't move at 4-fold that of light, but Goku escaped the epicenter of the explosion, he was point blank with the core of the explosion, he out ran pure energy...

Here is proof that Goku can move faster than light speed, energy is mass times the speed of light squared, so Goku would have had to of moved faster than four times the speed of light in order to escape Freeza's paralyzing force field when it exploded.

You really don't understand the equation at all. Its a way of showing how much energy a given mass has or how much mass a given amount of energy has.

Still no evidence the blast was lightspeed.

Goku can move at light speed too, and at Super Saiyan he can move much faster.

Remember back in the Superman forum when I destroyed all your arguments for Goku being lightspeed? Must we do it again?

Is that over 10-15 times Warp Speed, cause Super Saiyan Goku at the end of the Boo Saga was over 10-15 times faster than he was in the Freeza Saga. Not to mention SSJ2.

No. At 15 times speed of light it would take Superman superman three months to reach the nearest star. To do it in a day would take 1595 times the speed of light. Now imagine doing that crossing a 100,000 light year galaxy rather than the 4.3 to the nearest star.

oku's Kameha can do travel faster, so if Superman decides to go to the sun, Goku will fire one and kill him.

So he's not allowed to hit him while he's powering up or perhaps dodge him?

Still no where near as fast as the above lightspeeds Krytonians have shown.

Come one now I gave Goku a majority. Mostly because LOS Superman alcks the durabilty feats to match a Kamehameha.

Originally posted by superchron
Ya, chicken, at this point we're talking about LoS Supes

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Instant.

And the horizon on Namek is like the distance between New York and Antarctica.

Given that Vegeta is 10 times larger than Earth, which it is.

I'm mean think about it, Super Suppressed Freeza easily destroyed a planet 10 times larger than Earth, and not even final form 50% could destroy Namek!!!

Originally posted by chickenlover98
im going to say this for the LAST time. if you do not acknowledge this fact you are an idiot, and will be reported, because it is VERY important.

heat resistance DOES NOT determine durability. again, heat resistance DOES NOT determine durability.

if i can withstand the suns heat, like i could be placed in the middle of the sun and id be totally fine. thats my only power right? how does that stop someone from say....shooting me in the head?

does my resistance to heat make me anymore DURABLE? no it doesnt. guess what it does. it makes me heat resistant. goku has shown speed feats. IT is lightspeed, and goku at normal flight IS faster than gotenks. the time frame was half an hour(30 minutes, because u cant count) and he was asleep for part of the time. so no, superman is not faster

you still havent given proof goku is stronger than abse gotenks, or for that matter the amount of time gogeta spent traveling aroun the earth even if it was 30 minutes, that means superma nis faster (able to travel about 7 times around the world on foot in half an hour)

the main thing is even if superman doesnt have the durability to take a kamehameha he can easily dodge them or strike before goku gathers enough ki to launch one

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i have no arguments for that. from the evidence posted, he can move at FTL speeds and has damn good physical feats. what i HAVENT seen on him is durability. what is his durability? im sure he can take a PBA, but how many?

Originally posted by superchron
Although he lacks durabilty feats, mostly because most attacks aimed at him exploited his weaknesses, I still think he took his fair share of PBA's without any physical damage. One of the reasons this Supes is a better than JLU Supes is that, unlike in JLU, this Supes actually remembered he has superspeed. And literally speedblitzed Braniac 5(easily multiple planet buster) to pieces

Even so, thats estimating Goku at his stongest,LoS Supes vs SS3 Goku would be a closer match but Supes still wins the majority.

But, if we go in character, and Supes knows the damage Goku is capable of, Goku likely gets speedblitzed before he can power up to transform of attack

You really don't understand the equation at all. Its a way of showing how much energy a given mass has or how much mass a given amount of energy has.

Still no evidence the blast was lightspeed.

It's not the blast, it's the distance Goku was from the energy, when an explosion is first started, energy moves in all directions, as they cover more distance they slow down, and at the begining, or within an inch of a megaton explosion, Goku would have had to of moved at light speed.

No. At 15 times speed of light it would take Superman superman three months to reach the nearest star.

Say Superman was going against the Galaxies orbit, and the entire star was coming toward him.

Now imagine doing that crossing a 100,000 light year galaxy rather than the 4.3 to the nearest star.

Now imagine LOS Superman going against the rotation of our galaxy luster, the rotation of galaxies are extremely fast, not to mention the rotation of galaxy clusters.

Still no where near as fast as the above lightspeeds Krytonians have shown.

But... Goku's faster, if SDuperman comes at him while he's powering up, he'll fly away, or teleport.

Mostly because LOS Superman lacks the durabilty feats to match a Kamehameha.

Your god damn right, no Superman does!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

Originally posted by superchron
Even so, thats estimating Goku at his stongest,LoS Supes vs SS3 Goku would be a closer match but Supes still wins the majority.

But, if we go in character, and Supes knows the damage Goku is capable of, Goku likely gets speedblitzed before he can power up to transform of attack

Goku can power up and use instant transmission at the same time, he can also use a super Kameha and instant transmission at the same time.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Goku can power up and use instant transmission at the same time, he can also use a super Kameha and instant transmission at the same time.

Actually he had to spend time powering it up first, then use Shunkan Ido just before firing it

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually he had to spend time powering it up first, then use Shunkan Ido just before firing it

Actually, he did it at the last minute because that was how long it took to power up his attack

It's not the blast, it's the distance Goku was from the energy, when an explosion is first started, energy moves in all directions, as they cover more distance they slow down, and at the begining, or within an inch of a megaton explosion, Goku would have had to of moved at light speed.

Inverse square law. As energy moves outwards it looses energy not speed. Besides there still no evidence that ki explosion was lightspeed. Mostly because it formed a dome of energy across part of the planet which a radiation of light would not do.

Say Superman was going against the Galaxies orbit, and the entire star was coming toward him.

Say Alpha centauri isn't moving towards our sun. You know because the distance between the two stars is still 4.37 light years.

Say Superman was going against the Galaxies orbit, and the entire star was coming toward him.

It takes 220 millions years for the sun to do a full rotation round the galaxy. Yeah thats going to help Superman get there in a few hours.

But... Goku's faster, if SDuperman comes at him while he's powering up, he'll fly away, or teleport.

Didn't we just prove Goku: below light speed Superman above?

Please stop using science your not good at it. At all.

Inverse square law. As energy moves outwards it looses energy not speed.

No but the shock wave does, Goku out-ran that too within it's first 5 feet of expansion.

Besides there still no evidence that ki explosion was lightspeed.

Except that it takes the shock wave of a 500 megaton nuclear explosion (Freeza's paralyzing light explosion) "1-5" seconds to travel 15 miles.

And that before the shock wave had expanded 10 feet it was moving WAY faster than light, and Goku out-ran that fairly easily.

Say Alpha centauri isn't moving towards our sun. You know because the distance between the two stars is still 4.37 light years.

It was never said other wise, and it could have been. Don't you think Superman would take the short cut?

It takes 220 millions years for the sun to do a full rotation round the galaxy. Yeah thats going to help Superman get there in a few hours.

And it takes longer for our galaxy to orbit our Galaxy Cluster, but if he was going away from the orbit of our Galaxy, and since our galaxy orbits at tremendus speeds, that would vastly reduce the time it would take for Superman to excellerate across it, time enough to give Super Saiyan Goku the edge in speed, more than the edge, because he moves at around warp 9 without need to excellerate.

didn't we just prove Goku: below light speed Superman above?

No, you proved that you don't know as much as me. 😛

Stop using science your not good at it. At all.

Your not good at it %$#&^%!!!!