Originally posted by DestinyGuy678you mean more fair lol. not like it matters though. theyd still die, in rapid succession. again not one of them can take goku, and having multiple people who are still slow as hell in comparison does absolutely nothing except prolong the inevitable.
I Think if we combined all of the supermen it would be more fun..except for the one from The Batman
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678goku can go faster than gotenks, so a non issue. its still debated who's stronger between goku and gohan, i say goku ssj 3 is stronger.
Im pretty sure doomsday is stronger than goku, so halting doomsday with his super breath is a pretty nice featIm not being a fanboy, Im just looking at all of the possibilities, stop being a jerk
as for goku and gotenks, I've heard many people saying goku is only the third strongest character in DBZ the first bein gohan and the 2nd being gotenks
well the flash here is seen going around the world I think about 7 times in under a minute, (the last couple of times he had tapped into the speed force though so was going a lot faster tha nsuperman can go) but before it took him about 8 seconds to travel around the globe once before tapping into the speed force
superman has been shown to keep up with a flash not using the speed force
Originally posted by chickenlover98I think it would make it more fun you should use the movies and gt too seeing that they all are animated goku too...why do you think gok uis so muc hfaster in superman doomsday he has a couple of spee d feats that a t least look like dbz feats but have you quantified gokus speed?
you mean more fair lol. not like it matters though. theyd still die, in rapid succession. again not one of them can take goku, and having multiple people who are still slow as hell in comparison does absolutely nothing except prolong the inevitable.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678if goku is faster than gotenks, then he can probably go around the earth in about five seconds. he can it, which light speed, which is over 9000 times faster than the speed of sound. why would we use GT? it isnt canon. hell if u wanna use dbz movies ur screwing urself. lets just switch broly in here and just laugh. broly destroyed a galaxy(not that goku cant, because broly was below ssj 2) again decapitation ftw.
I think it would make it more fun you should use the movies and gt too seeing that they all are animated goku too...why do you think gok uis so muc hfaster in superman doomsday he has a couple of spee d feats that a t least look like dbz feats but have you quantified gokus speed?
btw Gt chars are all weaker than ssj 3
Originally posted by chickenlover98
so you know for a fact what i have and havent seen? really? thats interesting because your wrong. i have seen the entire movie. just because you would LIKE for him to hang with the stronger dbz chars, doesnt mean he can. back up your bullshit. even IF he has some strength feats, he has little or no durability or speed feats. goku still easily wins against the legion of superhereoes superman, even if he can lift 3000 tons. and anyways, we have no idea what gokus actual max weight is. he was shown fighting easily and normally with 40 tons.not that that matters, because all he has to do is teleport behind supes rip his head off, or blast him into oblivion, or beat the living hell out of him. or he can just super speed past him.
btw i have been arguing pretty much most of this off the JL, and the JLU versions of superman. however the superman doomsday supes is at max 5 times stronger and faster, which is yet again generous. he still loses EASILY
Now Supes from LoS is a different story, he has Goku outclassed on every level save fighting skills, if you'd seen the show, and not based your entire non-existent arguement on one video that show that Supes physical superiority to at Goku, that's your problem. Mind you the clip I linked was Supes at his absolute weakest in the series, by the end, he's many many times stronger. Don't debate stuff you know next to nothing about.
You ask us to "back up our bullshit" when you in fact have not posted one thing supporting your arguement, stop being a hypocrite, your actions are borderline trolling, cut out the hostility, we're debating FICTIONAL charcters, there is nothing to get so pissed off about. P.S it's still up for debate that Gohan and Gotenks at the end of the series were both equal to or more powerful than Goku.
Originally posted by chickenlover98sorry to as kagain but how do you know gotenks is slower than goku?
if goku is faster than gotenks, then he can probably go around the earth in about five seconds. he can it, which light speed, which is over 9000 times faster than the speed of sound. why would we use GT? it isnt canon. hell if u wanna use dbz movies ur screwing urself. lets just switch broly in here and just laugh. broly destroyed a galaxy(not that goku cant, because broly was below ssj 2) again decapitation ftw.btw Gt chars are all weaker than ssj 3
Originally posted by superchronyour belief on what i know is just that, belief. i have seen superman doomsday and he still loses. just because you love superman SO much that he cant ever lose to goku, doesnt make it true. i have provided stats, gokus minimal physical strength in ssj 1, we dont know ANYTHING about his full physical stats in any form, we've done speed, because he is faster than gotenks, and energy we've got soundly covered. now i have yet to see a single speed feat that goku cannot best without using IT. you havent posted the LOS supes speed feats, only his strength feats. AGAIN let me remind you, strength does not equal durability. so post his feats or stfu. your the one trolling with 0 evidence.
Uhhhh, I'm not going to continue arguing JLU nor Superman Doomsday with you, you have shown continually that you are ignorant on the topic and refuse to admit when you are wrong. If Supes from Doomsday loses, and I'll admit that its an uncertain fight, it's from a lack of feats and nothing else.Now Supes from LoS is a different story, he has Goku outclassed on every level save fighting skills, if you'd seen the show, and not based your entire non-existent arguement on one video that show that Supes physical superiority to at Goku, that's your problem. Mind you the clip I linked was Supes at his absolute weakest in the series, by the end, he's many many times stronger. Don't debate stuff you know next to nothing about.
You ask us to "back up our bullshit" when you in fact have not posted one thing supporting your arguement, stop being a hypocrite, your actions are borderline trolling, cut out the hostility, we're debating FICTIONAL charcters, there is nothing to get so pissed off about. P.S it's still up for debate that Gohan and Gotenks at the end of the series were both equal to or more powerful than Goku.
and if you actually believe Supes from SVD wins, then post strength, speed and durability feats. otherwise you have nothing.
actual feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your dbz hating opinion
Originally posted by chickenlover98
your belief on what i know is just that, belief. i have seen superman doomsday and he still loses. just because you love superman SO much that he cant ever lose to goku, doesnt make it true. i have provided stats, gokus minimal physical strength in ssj 1, we dont know ANYTHING about his full physical stats in any form, we've done speed, because he is faster than gotenks, and energy we've got soundly covered. now i have yet to see a single speed feat that goku cannot best without using IT. you havent posted the LOS supes speed feats, only his strength feats. AGAIN let me remind you, strength does not equal durability. so post his feats or stfu. your the one trolling with 0 evidence.and if you actually believe Supes from SVD wins, then post strength, speed and durability feats. otherwise you have nothing.
actual feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your dbz hating opinion
JLU Superman loses, Superman: Doomsday is uncertain but a better fight(lack of feats leave this fight undecided but in Goku's favor), LoS Supes wins in a curbstomp. You haven't posted one bit of eveidence to support you arguement and flaming other membesr=Trolling=Reported
Originally posted by superchronlack of evidence=constant dbz bashing=troling.
JLU Superman loses, Superman: Doomsday is uncertain but a better fight(lack of feats leave this fight undecided but in Goku's favor), LoS Supes wins in a curbstomp. You haven't posted one bit of eveidence to support you arguement and flaming other membesr=Trolling=Reported
u still have yet to report a speed feat of LOS supes
Originally posted by chickenlover98
your belief on what i know is just that, belief. i have seen superman doomsday and he still loses. just because you love superman SO much that he cant ever lose to goku, doesnt make it true. i have provided stats, gokus minimal physical strength in ssj 1, we dont know ANYTHING about his full physical stats in any form, we've done speed, because he is faster than gotenks, and energy we've got soundly covered. now i have yet to see a single speed feat that goku cannot best without using IT. you havent posted the LOS supes speed feats, only his strength feats. AGAIN let me remind you, strength does not equal durability. so post his feats or stfu. your the one trolling with 0 evidence.and if you actually believe Supes from SVD wins, then post strength, speed and durability feats. otherwise you have nothing.
actual feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your dbz hating opinion
and superman on foot (which is slower than his flight speed) can go around the earth in about 8 seconds so it would take about a minute and 4 seconds to travel across the globe on foot, flying he is much faster...meaning he is faster than gotenks
Originally posted by superchronok sure if he can do that then that supes wins no problem. you still havent posted any feats or a single reason why SVD supes wins
Lack of evidence? I actually post relating to the arguement and not telling other members to GTFO or STFU
DBZ bashing? Saying DBZ loses= Bashing, OH NOES!!Oh and throughout the show, Supes traveled through galaxies and planet to planet in minutes
Destiny, if you don't mind, I believe debating JLU Supes is a loosing battle and Superman Doomsday doesn't have enough feats to really debate, lets talk about LoS Supes, seeing as he is literally, the strongest Animated Supes, save Superfriends, who had ridiculous Pre-Crisis feats.
Anyway, LoS Supes did dodge lighting from point blank, even tho he easily took it at one point later on, and was not hurt at all, Go Figure
Originally posted by superchronbut right now for strength and speed, he hasnt really given any feats for goku...and I would debate LoSH but I cant remember it as vividly as JLU
Destiny, if you don't mind, I believe debating JLU Supes is a loosing battle and Superman Doomsday doesn't have enough feats to really debate, lets talk about LoS Supes, seeing as he is literally, the strongest Animated Supes, save Superfriends, who had ridiculous Pre-Crisis feats.Anyway, LoS Supes did dodge lighting from point blank, even tho he easily took it at one point later on, and was not hurt at all, Go Figure