Wolverine, Storm and Colossus versus Hulk

Started by Alfheim20 pages

Well anyway I gotta go now....I'll post later.

ok

They both look like Cable's using Storm's electricity to amp up his effect on Hulk except the Onslaught one looks a little more sloppy. Is that the first time they did it or does he suck at remembering encounters with Hulk?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro your right he didnt guide her this time but still she would not have been able to shutdown his brain without Cables help.

In the first case cable guided her. In this case its a double attack Storm zaps his brain and Cable sends a telepathic jolt. So if they did not attack at the same time it would not have worked this is why cable clearly states " [B]WE can basically shut down his brain..." [/B]

wow storm needs actual help to shut down peoples brains. how pathetic can she be sometimes.

😆

Hulk wins:

-He K.O's Collosus with his punches
-Rips wolverine apart with his strength or throws BFR.
-Thunderclaps Storm and blows her away

Or just Thunder Claps and K.O's everyone.

Three X-men are not beating the Hulk, guys.

synapse-The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron

if too much electricity hits the neuron, a person would die, due to an overload of elctricity. the neuron can take a limited amount of electricity.

strm killed him.

cable sought to keep him alive.

Originally posted by stormfront
storm sucks the air from his lungs end of story.
And, Hulk can't suck the air back in by breathing? barker

Originally posted by stormfront
synapse-The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron

if too much electricity hits the neuron, a person would die, due to an overload of elctricity. the neuron can take a limited amount of electricity.

strm killed him.

cable sought to keep him alive.

A person would die.

The Hulk wouldn't.

Originally posted by llagrok
A person would die.

The Hulk wouldn't.

Fool!

Didn't you know Hulk's physical limitations are the exact same as an average human being, and no greater? Whatsoever?! ermmnone

yes, that's why Hulk can exist in space without a spacesuit, why he can reform from bones - and is perhaps immortal (Maestro Hulk) ...
Storm's synapse trick shouldn't do anything more than make Hulk angrier.

Originally posted by stormfront
synapse-The junction across which a nerve impulse passes from an axon terminal to a neuron

if too much electricity hits the neuron, a person would die, due to an overload of elctricity. the neuron can take a limited amount of electricity.

strm killed him.

cable sought to keep him alive.

Yep.

Plus, no matter how strong and durable he is, there's absolutely nothing he can do to prevent it. 😂

Yeah.... electricity... that'll work. 🙄

Current Hulk has greater resistance to electricity than he was in the following scans:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-COMET3.jpg

http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-IH236.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-IHANN14a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-FF25.jpg

Sonics, electricity, anti-gamma blasts.
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Hulkbusters-IH436c.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Hulkbusters-IH436h.jpg

Survives Thor's lightning during warrior madness:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Thor-IH440a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Thor-IH440b.jpg

Of course... Storm's past encounter with Hulk (as mentioned earlier in thread):
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Storm-IH444.jpg

Gets blasted with enough electricity to incinerate a city:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-IHANN5a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Electricity-IHANN5b.jpg

Here is the scan I was referring to earlier about even his eyes becoming more dense:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Eyes-3AV75.jpg

This shows what happens when he starts amping up and resists energy more:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Genis-2CM2.jpg

Survives Namor's electric blast:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Namor-DEF52.jpg

Previous, weaker version of the Hulk surviving nova flame from fantastic four:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Torch-FF535a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Torch-FF535b.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Torch-FF535c.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/Torch-FF535d.jpg

None of the has a direct hit to synapses.

ABC logic.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
None of the has a direct hit to synapses.

ABC logic.

Storm doesn't have Cable to guide her power. Your plans fails.....as usual. 😊

That synapses jargon is just a plot device, especially considering that cable was needed.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
considering that cable was needed.......

To rid Hulk of Onslaughts influence and reboot his brain.

Storm shorted his synapse out which enabled Cable to do his thing.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
To rid Hulk of Onslaughts influence and reboot his brain.

Storm shorted his synapse out which enabled Cable to do his thing.

I.E. Plot Device

Originally posted by 2damnloud
None of the has a direct hit to synapses.

ABC logic.

do u just continually tyoe the same response over and over again supporting storm who got owned by ww hulk in a comic.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
To rid Hulk of Onslaughts influence and reboot his brain.

Storm shorted his synapse out which enabled Cable to do his thing.


Cable helped short him out in both instances from what I'm seeing in those scans. True, the onslaught one can kind of go either way because it doesn't explicitly state that Cable is guiding Storm's electricity, but says Storm is just shooting Hulk in the head otherwise.

What I can infer from this is either: A) This one time, just getting hand bolts to the head F's Hulk's brain (and heart?) up enough to kill him by Cable's word. Plot device for below reasons. or B) The Onslaught attack worked on the same principle as the other one in that Storm's power enhanced Cable's power. Combined attack. Simple yet very effective but neither would be able to replicate without each other or a facsimile to fill the shoes of the other.

For A, we have a recent scan of Hulk taking Storm's bolt to the head again and it does nothing. For B, the feat is inapplicable due to missing the other half of the equation.

In addition to that, you have at least two other factors. One is the Onslaught Saga writing itself. Hulk was shot in the head. One way or the other, his brain was shorted out. Why did his heart stop? Residual electricity? Clearly Hulk can take an electrical shot and be unphased. That really shouldn't of been a problem for him even if his brain is completely gone, that type of muscle keeps itself going. This is just a few of the many flubs in this arc. It's not all that reliable.

Two, the flavor of Hulk. The base was Professor Hulk wasn't it? And mind controlled. Hulk's peak tends to be when he's got less to work with upstairs, which is why normally people don't bother trying to use telepathy on him.

Both the version of Hulk and the arc itself are very questionable. This hurts other characters as well, so it's not just singling out Storm.

Now, I think you won't be surprised that I don't think they can beat Hulk, but I think it'll take quite a while for him to get the win. Whether or not a thunderclap works is beside the point. He's a brick and Storm is far more versatile than him, but I don't think she has the ability to do more than hassle him, for the above reason, until she exhausts herself.

If anyone has any other details I missed that could lead to a new line of thinking and feels like bringing it up, feel free. I am in a hypothetical mood. I feel like drawing a really detailed flowchart or something.

Oh crap, that got wordy!

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You forgot the other part "basically rebooting his mental computer..break him free of Onslaught's control".

Actually nobody rebooted anything. What did Cable actually say

First of all Cable says "like", which means they do a process like rebooting but not actually literially rebooting. When I say you are sly like a fox does this mean you are actually literially a fox or you behave SIMILAR to a fox? Furthermore rebooting has inverted commas over it. When you put "" over a word again this indicates that you dont mean it literially.

So the question is what is the exact process they did which is like "rebooting"? The process is shutting down his brain. Listen to what Cable said "We can basically shut down his brain for a second....LIKE "rebooting" his mental computer". Nobody rebooted anything they shutdown his brain for a split second and because it was only for a split second the brain should reboot itself. Its like if a person dies for a short time they can be revived again.

If they had actually rebooted his brain Cable would have said "We can basically shut down his brain for a second....AND reboot his mind". but he said "We can basically shut down his brain for a second....LIKE "rebooting" his mental computer". Therefore indicating that shutting down his brain for a split second is like rebooting it.

Originally posted by 2damnloud

And the other time, shee zaps him with lightning(guided by Cable) shutting his brain down, then Cable hits him with a psi bolt to bring banner to the surface.

Both are two-fold processes, but one instance it's done at the same time.

Yeah but the point is she needed Cable to do it.