Wolverine, Storm and Colossus versus Hulk

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Both of these instances look like Cable/Storm team attacks.

Thats true but it still shows that Storm has the capabnility of shutting down his synapses, Cable guided it but Storm provided the electrictiy. The only problem is that Cable used a telepathic bullet after his synapses where shut down....it seems maybe the hulks synpases where shut down but Banners mind was still present. Cable says something along the lines of "Wake up Banner."

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She used her power like a defibrillator, you know like how paramedics use to jump start hearts.

Er I was under the impression that if you put one of those things to a live persons heart that it could serioulsy **** them up....doesnt it cause the whole body to shake?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

The Hulk just took Surges electricity to the chest. Plus he's taken far worse then Storms lightning to the chest. (Well he did actually take her lightning and more in WWH #2). It's very doubtful that it'll work the other way.

Thats true. Besides the hulk wasnt pissed....he was dead. A dead hulk is alot less powerful than a pissed off one. 😂

Originally posted by Alfheim
[B]
Er I was under the impression that if you put one of those things to a live persons heart that it could serioulsy **** them up....doesnt it cause the whole body to shake?

It would but if the persons the Hulk whose taken worse then it shouldn't be effective.
I just wanted to clarify the defribillator thing. Because I'm getting the impression that people believe she would be able to "rob" his heart of electricity.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It would but if the persons the Hulk whose taken worse then it shouldn't be effective.
I just wanted to clarify the defribillator thing. Because I'm getting the impression that people believe she would be able to "rob" his heart of electricity.

Well i refuted my own argument the hulk was dead and therefore he was less durable im just saying that if you put that debthingie to a live person I think it would **** them up. No I dont think Storm could hurt his heart with lightnging but it still seems that she has the potential to shut down his brain but the scans implied she would need telepathic help.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats true but it still shows that Storm has the capabnility of shutting down his synapses, Cable guided it but Storm provided the electrictiy. The only problem is that Cable used a telepathic bullet after his synapses where shut down....it seems maybe the hulks synpases where shut down but Banners mind was still present. Cable says something along the lines of "Wake up Banner."

There's a problem with that half and half scenario. Storm provided the power and Cable steered. Who can take the feat? Maybe they both could but clearly in these cases they needed each other to do it.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
That is kind strange. Marvel's mind system is weird.

Not really The Hulk and Banner share the same body.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

There's a problem with that half and half scenario. Storm provided the power and Cable steered. Who can take the feat? Maybe they both could but clearly in these cases they needed each other to do it.

The evidence clearly indicates that they both did it. If Storm was telepathic she could have done it on her own. If Cable coild produce electricity he could have done it on his own.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Consistency of being hit. That shouldn't matter when he's being spun around. two different dynamics

Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with durability.

The winds don't inflict damage they MOVE him wherever she wants him to go.

If anything the debris would do the damage. That's another story.

Him being Hulk has nothing to do with the PIS moment.

her ability to move him the way you want her to is whats in question here... his durability and weight come into it big time...

You're just giving him all kinds of benifit of the doubt in that crappy, sensless scenario.

is this the same scenario where she somehow fries his brain?

There is nothing he would be able to do. He shouldn't have been able to aim, damn sure shouldn't have been able to hit her. Hell, he couldn't even keep himself upright.😂

There's no other way to logically make that scenario work other than to say "he's Hulk" 😆

but you don't get it... sometimes its enough, why? because of what a character is...

he's the Hulk, he's capable of outlandish shit on an issue by issue basis... didnt say it was right, but given what he's displayed on a consistent basis (realistic or not), there's very little imo that says he can't hit her if he really wants to...

"most likely"= assumption.

as in, more likely than anything you've suggested...

She's already done it twice.

Nothing suggest that this Hulk has bio-electrical control.

I already posted scans of her doing it........TWICE.

and you've been given plenty of instances of hulk taking damage from lightning that dwarf storm's attempt...

The odds are in her favor. probability. 🙂

in favour of her being ktfo, then yes, they are in her favour...

Originally posted by Badabing
Agreed, whole heartily.
Yep, that pretty much describes you and the other Stormboys. You all have nothing but opinion, conjecture and hyperbole. It's pathetically painful to read the posts about Storm posted most of the time. You all would do better to realize Storm isn't "Teh Full Potential Goddess". 😆 Agreed, whole heartily.
Yep, that pretty much describes you and the other Stormboys. You all have nothing but opinion, conjecture and hyperbole. It's pathetically painful to read the posts about Storm posted most of the time. You all would do better to realize Storm isn't "Teh Full Potential Goddess". 😆 Agreed, whole heartily.
Yep, that pretty much describes you and the other Stormboys. You all have nothing but opinion, conjecture and hyperbole. It's pathetically painful to read the posts about Storm posted most of the time. You all would do better to realize Storm isn't "Teh Full Potential Goddess". 😆 Don't make a logical statement. Some people won't follow it. 😂 😛 BTW, I agree with you.

that be a whole lot of agreein... 😛

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She used her power like a defibrillator, you know like how paramedics use to jump start hearts.
The Hulk just took Surges electricity to the chest. Plus he's taken far worse then Storms lightning to the chest. (Well he did actually take her lightning and more in WWH #2). It's very doubtful that it'll work the other way.
As for Cable/Storm thing, according to the scan it's a team attack. Cable mentally guides Storms attack into the Hulks head. Which shorts out his synapses. Cable then knocks him out with a mental blast.(Another attack to the synapses)

yeah, its as much cable (if not more-so) as it is storm...

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
That is kind strange. Marvel's mind system is weird.

There's a problem with that half and half scenario. Storm provided the power and Cable steered. Who can take the feat? Maybe they both could but clearly in these cases they needed each other to do it.

yup...

Hulk pisses me off. i want him to die in this thread, but he probly wont.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Hulk pisses me off. i want him to die in this thread, but he probly wont.

😂

most of wwh annoys me to be honest...

Originally posted by Alfheim
Not really The Hulk and Banner share the same body.

The evidence clearly indicates that they both did it. If Storm was telepathic she could have done it on her own. If Cable coild produce electricity he could have done it on his own.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
But the brain houses the mind. If it fries wouldn't they both go down? Even beyond that, there are characters who transform in such ways that they lose a physical brain, but their minds remain. Who knew fiction could get so non-sensical?

Well yyyeah but thats comics for you....at least there is some sort of logic.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

[b]
I know they both did it, but can it be considered a feat that they could do individually at any time? I wouldn't count on it.

I agree.

Well technically she did.

It was two-fold. She shorted out his brain, which allowed Cable to hit him telepathically to bring Banner to the surface.

In the second instance, something similar happened, except they did it in tandem. It was two-fold again. She shut it down, because lightning is akin to synapses, and Cable threaded a telepathic bolt in tandem to break him free of Onslaught's control.

In this fight, him breaking free or even waking up is inconsequential. The goal is to shut his brain down, which she has shown the ability to do, but not telepathically break him free of anything.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Well technically she did.

It was two-fold. She shorted out his brain, which allowed Cable to hit him telepathically to bring Banner to the surface.

In the second instance, something similar happened, except they did it in tandem. It was two-fold again. She shut it down, because lightning is akin to synapses, and Cable threaded a telepathic bolt in tandem to break him free of Onslaught's control.

In this fight, him breaking free or even waking up is inconsequential. The goal is to shut his brain down, which she has shown the ability to do, but not telepathically break him free of anything.

Yeah....but cable telepathically guided her in order to shut down his brain, which therefore means if Cable wasnt there she would not have been able to do it. 😐

Originally posted by pr1983
her ability to move him the way you want her to is whats in question here... his durability and weight come into it big time...

Durability has NOTHING to do with immobility. I can't believe you don't get that.

His weight?😂

An F4 tornada can casually toss 80 ton trains around. That's nothing to what Storm can bring to bare.

Originally posted by pr1983

is this the same scenario where she somehow fries his brain?

It happened twice. Synapse is like lightning(electric). Perfect sense.

Spinning in a vortex, then somehow being able to be in line of sight to look, process, pick up debris, aim AND hit does not work in any scenario. It would only work with a character with FTL reflexes, reaction-time and processing. Hulk has none of the above.

He would be constantly move OUT of the line of sight at a high rate of speed going in many different directions.

Durability(ability to take physical damage) has absolutely NOTHING to do with that scenario. Durability =/= immobility.

Originally posted by pr1983

he's the Hulk, he's capable of outlandish shit on an issue by issue basis... didnt say it was right, but given what he's displayed on a consistent basis (realistic or not), there's very little imo that says he can't hit her if he really wants to...

Doesn't matter.

That's ABC logic.

All attacks and metthods of attack are NOT THE SAME.

It's and apples and oranges argument.

All this despite the same damn thing happening to him TWICE by the same damn person😬

"He's Hulk" just sounds.....well.......nevermind. 😄

C'mon. 😂

Originally posted by pr1983

as in, more likely than anything you've suggested...

That's your opinion.

I have probability on my side.

You have "He Hulk". 🙁

Originally posted by pr1983

and you've been given plenty of instances of hulk taking damage from lightning that dwarf storm's attempt...

To a specific point in his synapses.......TWICE??

Originally posted by pr1983

in favour of her being ktfo, then yes, they are in her favour...

You're dreaming. "He Hulk, that why" 🙁

Originally posted by pr1983

that be a whole lot of agreein... 😛

That's a whole lotta ______strokin.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah....but cable telepathically guided her in order to shut down his brain, which therefore means if Cable wasnt there she would not have been able to do it. 😐

He didn't TP guide her the other time. He just threaded his psi-bolt through effectively doing the same thing.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
He didn't TP guide her the other time. He just threaded his psi-bolt through effectively doing the same thing.

Wait what over time....you mean when she brought Hulk back to life......

Originally posted by Alfheim
Wait what over time....you mean when she brought Hulk back to life......

Cable # 34

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Cable # 34

Ok thats not from the scans you showed because that shows Storm apllying electricity to his heart.......

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok thats not from the scans you showed because that shows Storm apllying electricity to his heart.......

My bad.

I forgot this.

Two-fold. She shut him down, and Cable telepathically slid into his brain while it was being shut down in the hopes of "rebooting" it.

Kinda like the other time except they did it at the same time, and he wasn't guiding her.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
My bad.

I forgot this.

Two-fold. She shut him down, and Cable telepathically slid into his brain while it was being shut down in the hopes of "rebooting" it.

Kinda like the other time except they did it at the same time, and he wasn't guiding her.

Bro your right he didnt guide her this time but still she would not have been able to shutdown his brain without Cables help.

In the first case cable guided her. In this case its a double attack Storm zaps his brain and Cable sends a telepathic jolt. So if they did not attack at the same time it would not have worked this is why cable clearly states " WE can basically shut down his brain..."

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro your right he didnt guide her this time but still she would not have been able to shutdown his brain without Cables help.

In the first case cable guided her. In this case its a double attack Storm zaps his brain and Cable sends a telepathic jolt. So if they did not attack at the same time it would not have worked this is why cable clearly states " [B]WE can basically shut down his brain..." [/B]

You forgot the other part "basically rebooting his mental computer..break him free of Onslaught's control".

And the other time, shee zaps him with lightning(guided by Cable) shutting his brain down, then Cable hits him with a psi bolt to bring banner to the surface.

Both are two-fold processes, but one instance it's done at the same time.