Check it out!!!
Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..
Thanos destroyed All that existed"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)
"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
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According to Marvel ... All Reality = the Omniverse
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality"
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think you mean Vishnu, not Izanagi.
True.
Originally posted by King Kandy
It's odd because Horus was around when Akhenaten was in power,
and could have stopped the whole thing from being an issue.
Not exactly,
Vishnu was only referring to Horus being LATE to the meeting:
"Odd that Lord Horus arrives LATE
to a meet concerning dire peril emanating from Ancient Egypt"
Late to What?
"A Meet" (a meeting)
What 's this meeting in relation to?
"concerning dire peril emanating from Ancient Egypt"
From Where?
"Ancient Egypt"
Vishnu is basically saying,
how can you be late to a meeting concerning your Timeline (Ancient Egypt)
Otherwise his comment is pointless.
Why would he specify Horus?
Why is there still an "Ancient Egypt" in the first place?
If Ancient Egypt is meaningless, why is it affecting the Present 616 Reality?
(616 Reality = Doom's Universe that's being badly shaken by Akhenaten)
Originally posted by King Kandy
Maybe because Horus met Akhenaten in the past?
Not because Akhenaten and Horus came to the meating from the literal past.
So why is Akhenaten coming from the literal Past, but Horus isn't?
When they both Originated in "Ancient Egypt"
(Do you believe that only Akhenaten got stuck in that Timeloop?)
Originally posted by King Kandy
You act like the Horus of the past and the Horus now are different entities.
I never said that.
There's Just Horus, from Ancient Egypt,
who is still the same cat Now from Ancient Egypt:
This the actual Origin issue of Horus, IN Ancient Egypt
Seth killed Osiris who was revived, Horus went after him for it.
This is interesting, Mirmir is recounting the events that took place in Ancient Egypt:
"At last Osiris found and revived by Magic of which the Gods no longer know"
.............................................................................................................
Now, Here is Osiris in the 616 Reality talking to Thor:
"We can't stop Seth ... when the power of Egypt [B]ebbed ...
many centuries ago[/B] ... Seth's power grew as ours waned"
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Is it a coincidence that the Osiris present in the 616 Reality,
is talking about himself, placing himself in Ancient Egypt,
when according to Mirmir we was already a an Egyptian god? (they all were)
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This is even more interesting:
After Seth is defeated:
While they're standing on the Celestial Road that leads to Heliopolis
(the Celestial Path is already in an other-dimensional realm)
watching Osiris, Horus and isis leave ... Odin says:
"I sense we must leave This place! That it is a Time Apart from us,
but it has taught me much! That I am Old" (because this Realm represents the Past)
Originally posted by King Kandy
Because Akhenaten came from Egypt and Horus was one of the Popular Gods of Egypt at the time.
And how was Vishnu able to know that Akhenaten would be abducted by the Order?
I mean that's what made Akhenaten, (the Celestial Order kidnap)
Horus and his fellow gods had dealt with him in Ancient Egypt.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Here, let me put what you're saying in perspective.
Let's make sure we know what I'm saying.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You say Horus shouldn't remember meeting Akhenaten unless he is from another timeline, since the past is a seperate timeline.
I never said that.
I always said,
BOTH Akhenaten and Horus are from the same Reality, Ancient Egypt,
(which Horus himself attests to) situated in the 4321 Timeline/Universe.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I say Horus would know him because he met him in the past.
I don't disagree with that.
Originally posted by King Kandy
So heres a Metaphor:Thor is in Avengers headquarters and meets Iron Man. Now, in any comic he will be formiliar with Iron Man. How is he formiliar with Iron Man? Because he met him in the past...
That all works fine in my view of the whole mess, but in your view, the Thor that met Iron Man was actualy a Alternate Universe version, since the past is a seperate timeline.
So the only way Thor could know Iron Man is if he was dimensionaly transported from a seperate universe every second. And to carry on a conversation, Thor must be yanked through universes every instant, endlessly, or else he will remember nothing of what has occured.
Now, sub in "Thor" with "Horus" and "Iron Man" with "Akhenaden" and you'll probably see your theory to be pure insanity.
dontgetit
This is an unrelated and misconstrued rendition of what I said.
In fact, I don't know what the heck your talking K.
"pure insanity?"
That "analogy" certainly is.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think you might want to think this out a bit more before you act so condenscending.
I think you should be thorough when attempting to re-phrase what I said.
I really dislike my posts being scrutinize by completely misinterpreting what I said.
Next time just ask me to elaborate,
but never try to speak for me with these "analogies" of your own design.
Thanx. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Check it out!!!Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..
Thanos destroyed [B]All that existed
"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)Check it Out!!!
According to Marvel ... All Reality = the Omniverse
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality" [/B]
What was shown on panel was a universe. On Panel>>> BIO. Are these bios even written at the same time or by the same person?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What was shown on panel was a universe.
What was shown on panel was the Marvel Universe:
The Marvel Universe is the Omniverse.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Towards the bottom under (The Ends of The Universe)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
On Panel>>> BIO.
On Panel:
"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?"
"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign .. Until .."
I always knew this meant what it obviously meant.
Thanos started out by absorbing the 616 Reality (Eternity & Infinity)
and then to make sure that no one could ever try to touch him,
he absorbed all the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
Or as the Official Marvel bios state:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"
What is "All of Reality?"
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"The Omniverse, Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality"
The Omniverse according to Marvel the company that creates and publishes Marvel comics.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are these bios even written at the same time or by the same person?
This is what matters, the guy who approves of everything said inside the Glossary:
"Joe Quesada"
You know who that is? (Nvr mind)
That's the Editor In-Chief of Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
What was shown on panel was the Marvel Universe:The Marvel Universe is the Omniverse.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Towards the bottom under (The Ends of The Universe)
On Panel:
"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?"
"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign .. Until .."I always knew this meant what it obviously meant.
Thanos started out by absorbing the 616 Reality (Eternity & Infinity)
and then to make sure that no one could ever try to touch him,
he absorbed all the Time & Space in the Omniverse.Or as the Official Marvel bios state:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed [B]All of RealityWhat is "All of Reality?"
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"The Omniverse, Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality"The Omniverse according to Marvel the company that creates and publishes Marvel comics.
This is what matters, the guy who approves of everything said inside the Glossary:
"Joe Quesada"
You know who that is? (Nvr mind)
That's the Editor In-Chief of Marvel. [/B]
Questions, If he was Omnipotent with no threat of anyone questioning him, then why bother? And it would seem he didn't have omniversal power. He did it slowly. One with total omniversal power can destroy everything all at once. but not really have the need since no one could ever threaten him. Since he was bonded with the omnireality, and had beaten the Lt, then there must be others out there who are superior to the lt. As if he could beat the lt so easily and yet he knew of others out there, then obviously there are mightier beings in the omniverse that marvel isn't sharing with us just yet. i can see him eating the omniverse. Albeit slowly. not all at once. which would have been a bigger feat imo. But Still, doesn't the Marvel u cease any way when the 616 is destroyed? I'm confused, if he destroyed it, and yet the omniverse survived, then something ain't adding up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Questions, If he was Omnipotent with no threat of anyone questioning him, then why bother?
He was out of control in his absorption:
He philosophied about Why he did it, but actually he was ultimately out of control.
Had he concentrated even the Realms outside of Time & Space would've been erased.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And it would seem he didn't have omniversal power. He did it slowly.
I didn't realized the speed was gauged.
Can you point it out to me where the speed of the absorption is stated.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One with total omniversal power can destroy everything all at once.
In that case, let's downplay Mxy's feat in World's Funnest.
Mxy didn't erase the DC Reality in one shot either,
he erased plenty of UniverseS one by one
before finally erasing the rest of it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
but not really have the need since no one could ever threaten him.
He was out of control during his absorption:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since he was bonded with the omnireality, and had beaten the Lt, then there must be others out there who are superior to the lt. As if he could beat the lt so easily and yet he knew of others out there,
Thanos never said he Knew anything.
"might not OTHERS be equally Foolish"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority"
"So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign"
He was just making sure, no one even tried it. (regardless whether they could or couldn't)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
then obviously there are mightier beings in the omniverse
that marvel isn't sharing with us just yet.
I sincerely doubt that.
In the 2006 Marvel handbook the LT is declared the most powerful entity in Marvel,
second only to TOAA.
The End: Marvel was published in 2003
There are other Multiversal and Omniversal powers in Marvel,
but none above the LT.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
i can see him eating the omniverse. Albeit slowly. not all at once.
which would have been a bigger feat imo.
Again,
where is stated he did it slowly?
Where is it stated that the speed of absorption was guaged?
I think you may be confused because I choped the scan up into Three pieces.
In actuality Thanos absorbed all of Time & Space in one swift motion.
In one page Time & Space in the Omniverse is gone:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But Still, doesn't the Marvel u cease any way when the 616 is destroyed?
True.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm confused, if he destroyed it, and yet the omniverse survived,
then something ain't adding up.
Well that's why I'm saying, he did it in one sweep.
According to Uatu the Omniverse follows in the collapse of the 616 Reality,
but not instantaneously.
Like any chain reaction it takes atleast a bit of time.
Originally posted by King Kandyi still think thanos wins. he curbstomped those who stood in his path on panel. presence has never done anything like this and when u take geb out of him they are equal.
Yeah Presence wasn't supreme but NOW he is.The Presence in this fight and the Presence who fought GEB are DIFFERENT BEINGS!!!!
The Presence is supreme, Thanos w/thotu has never done anything that would match what DC's God has done. There is no old presence and new presence. TGEB and The Presence gave a piece of each other to the other, that's it, they are still two beings. The Beast even left heaven while God was still there. Surprising that this debate is still going on. Its like TOAA vs Thanos w/thotu, he isn't going to beat the one who manipulated him and continued to after he got the Heart. 😑
Originally posted by kevdudethanos was manipulated into getting the heart and then he became god. thanos could have done what thanos wanted to do. he didnt have to do what TOAA wanted him to do. thanos saved the universe out of the goodness in his heart. hes not all bad. on panel feats say thanos as god defeats presence.
The Presence is supreme, Thanos w/thotu has never done anything that would match what DC's God has done. There is no old presence and new presence. TGEB and The Presence gave a piece of each other to the other, that's it, they are still two beings. The Beast even left heaven while God was still there. Surprising that this debate is still going on. Its like TOAA vs Thanos w/thotu, he isn't going to beat the one who manipulated him and continued to after he got the Heart. 😑
No lol. he was still used by TOAA, its clear as day Q. Did Thanos go into the void, probably where TOAA was and watching Thanos?? No, he didn't he couldn't cause he was locked in the universe and had to fix it. You know that Dream with his helmet was nearly Omnipotent and he still was nothing to Lucifer. On panel feats show he's weak minded and needed Adams help in pushing him to remake the universe, that's how powerful and all knowing Thanos was.. 😉
Originally posted by kevdudethanos wasnt forced into remaking the universe. he chose to do it. plain and simple. he was given the option. thanos chose to save all rather then condemn all. thanos conferred with warlock and chose to save all of creation. thanos was the hero and villain in this story. thanos couldnt be defeated in combat and no one else in comics defeated all these powerhouses at once like thanos did.
No lol. he was still used by TOAA, its clear as day Q. Did Thanos go into the void, probably where TOAA was and watching Thanos?? No, he didn't he couldn't cause he was locked in the universe and had to fix it. You know that Dream with his helmet was nearly Omnipotent and he still was nothing to Lucifer. On panel feats show he's weak minded and needed Adams help in pushing him to remake the universe, that's how powerful and all knowing Thanos was.. 😉
NO ONE.
Originally posted by kevdudethanos was god. i wouldnt rate him more powerful than the presence if the presence could defeat any and all comers. his stalemate of the geb shows hes not supreme.
Yeah Thanos chose to do it, wow impressive especially when Adam had to make him feel good. Eliane and Michael can make a creations while it takes Thanos with THOTU to do the same. You rate him way to high when you try to rate him with God..
Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was god. i wouldnt rate him more powerful than the presence if the presence could defeat any and all comers. his stalemate of the geb shows hes not supreme.
So everything that shows the Presence/yhwh as the supreme being is a lie?? Its on panel countless times and TGEB isn't even a being its the nothingness that was here before everything (God) formed in the void. When the beast saw everything, its opposite it went to sleep or shock cause it couldn't take it. Things just happen in the void that cannot be explained by anyone that's the external forces, not the writers... 😉. And God and Heaven reside not within the Universe but outside of it, so there goes that part where Thanos was god within the Universe talk.
Originally posted by kevdudeok thanos existed and was one with all. he pawned all and could exist outside time and all that. he had no equal while the presence couldnt defeat a part of him in the geb. makes him not supreme. its a tie whereas with thanos there is no tie he was supreme.
So everything that shows the Presence/yhwh as the supreme being is a lie?? Its on panel countless times and TGEB isn't even a being its the nothingness that was here before everything (God) formed in the void. When the beast saw everything, its opposite it went to sleep or shock cause it couldn't take it. Things just happen in the void that cannot be explained by anyone that's the external forces, not the writers... 😉. And God and Heaven reside not within the Universe but outside of it, so there goes that part where Thanos was god within the Universe talk.
thanos creates a really big shadow for the win.
😆
the presence couldnt defeat the nothingness from the neverending story i bet.
😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
ok thanos existed and was one with all. he pawned all and could exist outside time and all that. he had no equal while the presence couldnt defeat a part of him in the geb. makes him not supreme. its a tie whereas with thanos there is no tie he was supreme.thanos creates a really big shadow for the win.
😆
the presence couldnt defeat the nothingness from the neverending story i bet.
😂
A part of him?? TGEB isn't a part of The Presence. The put downs against DC are unnecessary Quanchi.
Originally posted by kevdudei was told the geb is a part of him now. anyways im not putting dc down im calling it how it is. its a wonderful universe which doesnt believe the presence to sit atop the mountain. there is a spot at the top for the geb as well.
A part of him?? TGEB isn't a part of The Presence. The put downs against DC are unnecessary Quanchi.
