Originally posted by Erik-Lensherrthanos was supreme while the presence isnt. the geb can stalemate him. bottom line u cant be supreme and have a being out there that can stalemate you. thanos didnt and has on panel feats of pawning the competition. show me a scan of presence doing something or otherwise remain silent and concede ur argument to my overwhelming evidence.
Thanos is at best a Multiversal being while The Presence is beyond creation . Not anything to talk about here really .
thanos was NOT supreme in marvel. if he was then why didnt he affect anything outside the multiverse? how did adam warlock survive? why did he specifically SAY that only the 616 had been destroyed? why wasnt DEATH destroyed? why wasnt the beyond realm touched?
he is a universal/multiversal{SINGULAR multiverse} threat at best.
the presence will pulverize him simply by speaking a single WORD.
Let's start with the beginning and analize why the heart was actually given to Thanos .
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu06.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu07.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu08.jpg
Thanos notices that something is not wrong with the Universe . But what can that be ?
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu10.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu11.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu12.jpg
Why would this things affect the entire Omniverse , when it concerns only the ballance between life and death , between good and evil of that specific Universe/Multiverse ? It's the events that happened IN that Multiverse that truly affected the balance Within it . As you know , the Omniverse not only contains this Multiverse , but contains several other Multiverses without the 616 hierarchy in power (Meaning no Eternity etc) and which contain beings beyond human perception . Now I ask you , why exactly would Thanos , since he is supposdley one with the Omniverse not even mention this beings in the following scans ?
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu04.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/...nsherr/mu05.jpg
Why wouldn't the Living Tribunal summon beings from other Multiverses to fight Thanos with the Heart of the Universe when it was their Multiverse in danger , along with the rest of the Omniverse ? Why is every character that fights Thanos only from our Multiverse ? Why does it show only characters and places from our Multiverse when Thanos explains with what he is one with instead of showing other Multiverses ? And why exactly is the word "Universe" mentioned so many times ?
It is obvious that this Multiverse needed to be erased and restored and not the Omniverse .
Originally posted by leonheartmm
thanos was NOT supreme in marvel.
Tell it to Marvel.
The Heart of the Infinite:
"The Source from which all other power throughout Time & Space springs"
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Thanos became One with All (the Omniverse)
"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"
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Thor says,
"Thanos has usurped the Power Supreme and now reigns over All Reality"
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Eternity says,
"I demand you relinquish the Supreme Power you have stolen"
Thanos replies,
"more like GIVEN to me"
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Thanos says,
"Your Lord & Master (God/Toaa) has abandoned you Eternity"
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Thanos says,
"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I NOW AM,
did you ever dare demand anything from Him"
Eternity RESPONDS,
No, but .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)
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"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...
my Will is Supreme"
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Originally posted by leonheartmm
if he was then why didnt he affect anything outside the multiverse?
Outside Time & Space actually.
Everything within Time & Space in the Marvel Universe (Omniverse) was absorbed.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
(Bottom section ... under, The Ends of The Universe)
Originally posted by leonheartmm
how did adam warlock survive?
Because he was in Atleza's Realm, which is located Outside Time & Space.
This is why Gamora and Mistress Death
and anything else outside of Time & Space survived.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
why did he specifically SAY that only the 616 had been destroyed?
You got Proof?
Good luck on trying to find anywhere in "The End: Marvel"
Warlock or anyone else stating that.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
why wasnt DEATH destroyed?
Same reason as Atleza, Warlock and Gamora.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
why wasnt the beyond realm touched?
dontgetit
No one knows if the Beyond Realm was touched or not.
In any case the Beyond Realm is also outside of Space & Time.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
he is a universal/multiversal{SINGULAR multiverse} threat at best.
The LT who holds MegaverseS in one Hand got absorbed like a joke.
So it makes sense that would make Thanos,
"a universal/multiversal{SINGULAR multiverse} threat at best" 😆
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the presence will pulverize him simply by speaking a single WORD.
No comment on who wins.
On the other hand,
this is just the God of one company vs the God of another.
"Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..
Thanos destroyed All that existed"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)
"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)
What is "All Reality" in Marvel?
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 - Glossary)
"Group of Alternate UniverseS that encompass All Reality"
Oh chit, it's the Omniverse. 😱
This must be why Marvel (the company producing these comics)
clearly stated on their own Official Website, (Marvel.com)
That Thanos destroyed then Re-Created the Marvel Universe:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
And what da ya know,
the Marvel Universe ... IS ... the Omniverse. oooh
According to Marvel.com ... Official Marvel website.
Thanos erased and recreated the Marvel Universe
And the Marvel Universe is the (Omniverse)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
"The Marvel Universe Although considered the “prime reality”
in which events of universal significance occur,
(and, indeed, Megauniversal and/or Omniuniversal significance),
this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”)
to differentiate it among the infinite numbers of alternate realities.
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In the Last paragraph: (The ENDS of The Universe)
"Thanos decided that the true sign of his Ultimate power,
would be to destroy The Universe and become The One True Supreme being."
Originally posted by Galan007
Not MultiverseS?
What are MultiverseS made up of?
🙄
In the end, the Omniverse is just a truly Infinite amount of UniverseS,
grouped into clusters (MultiverseS)
MultiverseS that are some what related yet still apart are grouped in clusters aswell,
these are called MegaverseS.
There's only Two MegaverseS that we know of in Marvel so far.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNo need for the ( 🙄 ), it was just a question. [Recent debates have got you a little hostile I think]. 😛
What are MultiverseS made up of?🙄
In the end, the Omniverse is just a truly Infinite amount of UniverseS,
grouped into clusters (MultiverseS)
MultiverseS that are some what related yet still apart are grouped in clusters aswell,
these are called MegaverseS.There's only Two MegaverseS that we know of in Marvel so far.
I just thought it was an odd way of phrasing what makes up the Omniverse.
Especially when a panel exists which states something like, "LT rules over all the MultiverseS".
srug
So ALL of Marvel = 2 Megaverses = clusters of Multiverses = infinite Universes, correct?
Originally posted by Galan007
No need for the ( 🙄 ), it was just a question.
I didn't think that smilie was improper, I was being cute. 😛
Originally posted by Galan007
I just thought it was an odd way of phrasing what makes up the Omniverse.Especially when a panel exists which states something like, "LT rules over all the MultiverseS".
True that.
Originally posted by Galan007
So ALL of Marvel = 2 Megaverses = clusters of Multiverses = infinite Universes, correct?
As far as I know, pretty much. 🙂
I still love that analogy you used to describe 616,
I was almost tempted to think you got it from somewhere, (compliment)
that's how smooth it was.
Nice. 👆
Originally posted by Mr MasterWhen I was writing that I was like, "this won't make sense to anyone" 😂
I still love that analogy you used to describe 616,
I was almost tempted to think you got it from somewhere, (compliment)
that's how smooth it was.Nice. 👆
So when you said it was actually a very accurate way to describe the Omniverse, I was really surprised lol..
Originally posted by King Kandy
There's no proof that there are only two multiverses...
What would be the essential differences between the two?
I realize you meant two Megaverses.
And you're right, there is no proof that's all Marvel has,
but for now, we haven't seen anymore.
I just found a cool arc (standalone)
involving Silver Surfer and Warlock called "Resurrection" (4 issues)
it's a Cosmic tale, I'm going to read it now, perhaps I'll find something interesting.
