Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Originally posted by Air Legend

3. Yahweh: None of us can be our own maker.

Some intransigent baboons..er..people like to claim that Thanos w/ HOTI didn't become the supreme being of Marvel because he was created by TOAA, and consequently, they say Presence wins. Well, here's Yahweh making it overtly clear that someone/something created him.

4. But even I was shaped by forces external to me.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/leonheartmm/Lucifer_75_p34.jpg

Making my own scans was becoming tedious so I'm using this link. Here's Yahweh again admitting that external powers created him.

5. That's exactly why I want to know you better.

And Yahweh is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient? Hell, here he is asking Lucifer if they want to exchange memories and he wants to know Lucifer better. Omniscience means all knowing. Yahweh wants to know Lucifer better--> Yahweh is not truly omniscient (at least when your outside his plan and all Marvel characters are outside the plan). Also, the fact that he has to ask for permission from one of his creations suggest he's not omnipotent.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/leonheartmm/?action=view&current=Lucifer_75_p38.jpg

It's just like I suspected,
Thanos/THOTI is no more/less a puppet, than DC's Supreme being.

They're both supposed to be absolute almighty, yada, yada,
but in truth both are subjected to the will of the true GODS!

Those true GODS are ... (represented on panel through avatars)
... (artist/writers) Human beings using a finite perception to define the infinite. 🙂

Originally posted by Air Legend
Some people are quick to disclaim that Thanos possessed the highest power ever displayed in comics and give the Presence/Yahweh for no reason (other than DC bias or ignorance I assume). However, Yahweh has enough embarrassing feats to share for a character that's suppose to be God.

[B]1. Yahweh takes it in the face.

Some clown/s like to claim that Lucifer is oh so powerful because he talks shit to "God". LMAO. Then I guess this woman (Lilith) is leaps and bounds above Lucifer since she bitchslapped/scratched Yahweh's sorry ass in what could be one of the most embarrassing moments in comic book history.

2. The omniscient dumbass.

Yahweh is ever omniscient some claim. Yet he has to bend and break the rules to communicate his message. His oh-so-omniscient self didn't even realize that there are more possibilities than just destroy or save creation.

3. Yahweh: None of us can be our own maker.

Some intransigent baboons..er..people like to claim that Thanos w/ HOTI didn't become the supreme being of Marvel because he was created by TOAA, and consequently, they say Presence wins. Well, here's Yahweh making it overtly clear that someone/something created him.

4. But even I was shaped by forces external to me.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/leonheartmm/Lucifer_75_p34.jpg

Making my own scans was becoming tedious so I'm using this link. Here's Yahweh again admitting that external powers created him.

5. That's exactly why I want to know you better.

And Yahweh is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient? Hell, here he is asking Lucifer if they want to exchange memories and he wants to know Lucifer better. Omniscience means all knowing. Yahweh wants to know Lucifer better--> Yahweh is not truly omniscient (at least when your outside his plan and all Marvel characters are outside the plan). Also, the fact that he has to ask for permission from one of his creations suggest he's not omnipotent.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/leonheartmm/?action=view&current=Lucifer_75_p38.jpg [/B]

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^lots of personal insults i see.

1. that WOMAN is lillith, the first women in creation, and she slapped yahweh out of disgust, not due to power she posessed, this is merely yahweh's corporeal manifestation, and lets not forget here yahweh is contemplating to save or destroy the whole of reality 😄

2.yahweh's omniscience only worked before lucifer escaped predestination, it works because yahweh knows his creation well and it CANT work any other way. but hey, no1 is admitting that he was factually omniscient, like no1 shud admit that thanos with the heart of infinity was omniscient, not even knowing the presence of warlock and death and missing them altogether{lest we use the deus ex machina argument of HE KNEW BUT SUBCONCIOUSLY FORGOT lol }

3. here yahweh is referring to thw writers, who are always above anything INSIDE comics, jsut the same as they are above thanos and the heart of infinity and all other thigns IN marvel. but this is a comic book thread and we are discussing beings IN comics

4. same as above, it is the writers who are higher than yahweh

5.yahweh was omniscient as long as his plan held and inside his own creation. lucifer broke the threads of fate and hence escaped predestination which even yahweh cudnt in respect to the writer;s appointed role for him. no1 in comics is truly omniscient, NO1 . and thanos with the heart of inifinity has already definitively been proven to be IGNORANT let alone omniscient. similarly NUTHING in comics is truly omnipotent.

now stop with the personal insults, your embarrising yourself.

1. Really? No shit. I guess that's why I put "Lilith" in parenthesis after the word woman. Also, nice to see you didn't get the sarcasm in my remark. Nonetheless, this still holds as one of the most embarrassing feats in comic book history.

2. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't truly omniscient. Thanos knew where Warlock was, but Death surprised him.

3. And I'm not disagreeing. Only the writers are above Thanos HOTI.

4. Same as above as well.

5. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't all that like people make him out to be. Thanos's feats are by far greater than Yahweh's feats. That much is indisputable. 🙂

Originally posted by Air Legend
Nah, more like impersonal insinuations made in a joking manner.

1. Really? No shit. I guess that's why I put "Lilith" in parenthesis after the word woman. Also, nice to see you didn't get the sarcasm in my remark. Nonetheless, this still holds as one of the most embarrassing feats in comic book history.

2. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't truly omniscient. Thanos knew where Warlock was, but Death surprised him.

3. And I'm not disagreeing. Only the writers are above Thanos HOTI.

4. Same as above as well.

5. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't all that like people make him out to be. Thanos's feats are by far greater than Yahweh's feats. That much is indisputable. 🙂

Nah, more like impersonal insinuations made in a joking manner.

1. Really? No shit. I guess that's why I put "Lilith" in parenthesis after the word woman. Also, nice to see you didn't get the sarcasm in my remark. Nonetheless, this still holds as one of the most embarrassing feats in comic book history.

so, does mazikeen slicing lucifer;s face witha dagger and leavign a scar. seems like you cant understand subtlety my friend. "hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned", obviously it was meant towards a more intelligenc audience member......

2. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't truly omniscient. Thanos knew where Warlock was, but Death surprised him.

illogical extrapolations with on panel evidence stating otherwise. thanos missed them both when he was destroying everything, NOTICING warlock as he entered into the universe but missing death altogether. accept it. thanos was neither omnipotent nor omniscient.

3. And I'm not disagreeing. Only the writers are above Thanos HOTI.

yes but there is a much bigger gap between the infinite power of the writers and the power of thanos with heart of infinite than there is between the writers' power and yahweh in vertigo going by yahweh's greater feats than thanos.

4. Same as above as well.

5. Nice to see we agree that Yahweh isn't all that like people make him out to be. Thanos's feats are by far greater than Yahweh's feats. That much is indisputable. 🙂

who made him out to be anything other than what the comics say??? thanos' feats dont compare to yahweh, that much is indisputable, his are far weaker than yahweh's since the extent of his power was a multiverse if we are generous.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
riiiiiiiiiight..............

so, does mazikeen slicing lucifer;s face witha dagger and leavign a scar. seems like you cant understand subtlety my friend. "hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned", obviously it was meant towards a more intelligenc audience member......

illogical extrapolations with on panel evidence stating otherwise. thanos missed them both when he was destroying everything, NOTICING warlock as he entered into the universe but missing death altogether. accept it. thanos was neither omnipotent nor omniscient.

yes but there is a much bigger gap between the infinite power of the writers and the power of thanos with heart of infinite than there is between the writers' power and yahweh in vertigo going by yahweh's greater feats than thanos.

same as above

who made him out to be anything other than what the comics say??? thanos' feats dont compare to yahweh, that much is indisputable, his are far weaker than yahweh's since the extent of his power was a multiverse if we are generous.

Presence easy

Originally posted by leonheartmm
so, does mazikeen slicing lucifer;s face witha dagger and leavign a scar. seems like you cant understand subtlety my friend. "hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned", obviously it was meant towards a more intelligenc audience member......

Originally posted by leonheartmm
illogical extrapolations with on panel evidence stating otherwise. thanos missed them both when he was destroying everything, NOTICING warlock as he entered into the universe but missing death altogether. accept it. thanos was neither omnipotent nor omniscient.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
yes but there is a much bigger gap between the infinite power of the writers and the power of thanos with heart of infinite than there is between the writers' power and yahweh in vertigo going by yahweh's greater feats than thanos.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
same as above

Originally posted by leonheartmm
who made him out to be anything other than what the comics say??? thanos' feats dont compare to yahweh, that much is indisputable, his are far weaker than yahweh's since the extent of his power was a multiverse if we are generous.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Presence easy

Originally posted by Air Legend
I'm sorry, I don't speak retard.

Yeah, it's illogical because Thanos himself said he knew where Warlock was. 🙄

Another unsupported claim. Oh Leo, when will you ever learn?

Same as above

More lies and unsupported claims. Do you especially like arguing with me or do you always lie and make unsupported claims when debating?

i suppose ill take the higher ground and not grace this with a reply. good day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Post his feats and lets compare.

which ones do you want. the highest ones like him surviving the multiverse shattering demiurgic explosion have already been posted. as are of him creating his multiverse and creating concepts like time from nuthing. {this particular one brings him equal to the heart of infinity} and then still retaining the full use of his power to repeat the feat. then of elain with micheal's power creatign a full multiverse from nuthing.
then there is the destruction of the mansions of silence mearly by his presence. then there is his will which allowed him to see himself and all things in enormity of a new cretaiong, past present and future and intrnalise it in one blink of an eye. then there is the destruction of fenris, the ambodiement of destruction itself,. then there is the threat to death of the endless, who works on more than a multiversal level and him theatenign to kill her and she accepting that he could. then there is him killing micheal with his power at yygdrassil. then there is of him escaping predestination and threatening to harm yahweh if he left creation. then there is of him navigatin the void. then there is of him comprssing the gate to the void in on itself with pure will and combining three multiverses into one. ofcourse there is of him escaping his purpose and even yahweh wanting to know more by wanting to fuse with him.and ofcourse, of lucifer standing on the source wall and seeing all things at the same time, as well as diving into the thoughts of god himself and seeing his plan. not mentioning his actually cunning and intellignece which is admittedly his best weapon even when he has no power inside him and wins against gods etc with it.

etc etc etc, there are a LOT. which ones di you want, {and a lot of these are also there in the lucifer respect thread}. thanos has but one feat of multiversal destruction and recreation.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
which ones do you want. the highest ones like him surviving the multiverse shattering demiurgic explosion have already been posted. as are of him creating his multiverse and creating concepts like time from nuthing. {this particular one brings him equal to the heart of infinity} and then still retaining the full use of his power to repeat the feat. then of elain with micheal's power creatign a full multiverse from nuthing.
then there is the destruction of the mansions of silence mearly by his presence. then there is his will which allowed him to see himself and all things in enormity of a new cretaiong, past present and future and intrnalise it in one blink of an eye. then there is the destruction of fenris, the ambodiement of destruction itself,. then there is the threat to death of the endless, who works on more than a multiversal level and him theatenign to kill her and she accepting that he could. then there is him killing micheal with his power at yygdrassil. then there is of him escaping predestination and threatening to harm yahweh if he left creation. then there is of him navigatin the void. then there is of him comprssing the gate to the void in on itself with pure will and combining three multiverses into one. ofcourse there is of him escaping his purpose and even yahweh wanting to know more by wanting to fuse with him.and ofcourse, of lucifer standing on the source wall and seeing all things at the same time, as well as diving into the thoughts of god himself and seeing his plan. not mentioning his actually cunning and intellignece which is admittedly his best weapon even when he has no power inside him and wins against gods etc with it.

etc etc etc, there are a LOT. which ones di you want, {and a lot of these are also there in the lucifer respect thread}. thanos has but one feat of multiversal destruction and recreation.

Originally posted by Air Legend

More lies and unsupported claims.

Do you especially like arguing with me or do you always lie
and make unsupported claims when debating?

I'm beginning to suspect, it's just his style.

Either that,
or he's high,
and laughing his ass off
at us trying to make sense of the unsupported tangled weaves in his claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has the most impressive battle feat of them all. he was supreme on panel while lucifer isnt even close. Again his battle feats dont seem impressive to say the least.

Originally posted by Air Legend
And those are exaggerated lies that he's telling you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆

I'm beginning to suspect, it's just his style.

Either that,
or he's high,
and laughing his ass off
at us trying to make sense of the unsupported tangled weaves in his claims.

😆

Did he admit to being a pothead on KMC at some point in time? I mean, that would explain why he makes so many outrageous claims.

People when having trouble to prove their situation usually project their errors unto someone else. It can be that they either call the other one stupid and unable to comperhend the situation as it is, in hope of that the subconscious guilt will stop the one from continue.
Another natural reaction can be trying to find (or make up) minior flaws in the ones argument.

This in my opinion should stay out of debates, admitting that someone else is right is not a sign of weakness, but a sign of understanding oneself to be wrong and learn from it, preventing future misinterpretions to be made.

Originally posted by Air Legend
😆

Did he admit to being a pothead on KMC at some point in time? I mean, that would explain why he makes so many outrageous claims.

tut tut tut, all the above allegations disproven by this simply link.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=484697&pagenumber=7

if you want to make outright LIES about me, atleast try and do a sneakier job fools.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has the most impressive battle feat of them all. he was supreme on panel while lucifer isnt even close. Again his battle feats dont seem impressive to say the least.

lol, again with the fanboyism.

quanchi's answer to EVERYTHING,

"no no no your wrong, thanos has the most impressive battle feats of them ALL. he was SUPREME ON PANEL. OSUPREME you know! ON PANEL you know! ohhhhh!

whether it be destroying or creating multiverses or having megaversal power, your character's feats don impress me in the least.