Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
GOD never is used. God never has an oversite, such as when thanos didn't absorb Death and Warlock. God never admits to being played like a food. thanos was not God. He was an instrument. Also, what ever gave you the impression that the presence is god within an omniverse? Is he not the same presence of vertigo and DC? Vertigo is more than Lucifer's series you know. And Is he not the same Presence over the 5th dimension, which isn't part of DC's omniverse. And i don't ever recall heaven being part of the omniverse either. So the presence is as high above a simple lil omniverse as the LT is above a megaverse.

By your logic, the Presence is also a play toy, even more than Thanos. The Presence has an equal (the Great Evil Beast), while Thanos was Almighty. The reason the Presence is a play toy by your logic is because the Presence was created by external forces AKA DC artists and writers (this was mentioned on panel) just like Thanos was.

Thanos w/HOTI and the Presence are equal.

Originally posted by Air Legend
My bad. I should have said within the comic books.

By your logic, the Presence is also a play toy, even more than Thanos. The Presence has an equal (the Great Evil Beast), while Thanos was Almighty. The reason the Presence is a play toy by your logic is because the Presence was created by external forces AKA DC artists and writers (this was mentioned on panel) just like Thanos was.

Thanos w/HOTI and the Presence are equal.

No. Thanos with the heart was a joke. he got bitched by a writer. The Presence has NEVER been anything but Omnipotent. Also, The GEB is another omnipotent Character.basically giving DC two Omnipotent Characters. When they merged, it was still just one Omnipotent character. you cant' have levels of omnipotence. No matter what some people like to suggest.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Where did I say a big bang came from mike? The power the spills out of Micheal literally destroys all creation. It is the creation and the destruction. To which, it never even made lucifer flinch. Now where did I say a big bang was going to take out thanos?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. Thanos with the heart was a joke. he got bitched by a writer. The Presence has NEVER been anything but Omnipotent. Also, The GEB is another omnipotent Character.basically giving DC two Omnipotent Characters. When they merged, it was still just one Omnipotent character. you cant' have levels of omnipotence. No matter what some people like to suggest.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Did you miss the part where I said the Presence (and this was after the merging) said he was created by external forces?

Is this the presence of DC or of Vertigo to which you refer? Vertigo is a PART of DC. Thus The external forces that the vertigo Presence was refering to had to be the superlative Presence of DC.

Originally posted by Air Legend
You didn't, but that's what Mike essentially did in that situation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is this the presence of DC or of Vertigo to which you refer? Vertigo is a PART of DC. Thus The external forces that the vertigo Presence was refering to had to be the superlative Presence of DC.

But either way you look at it the external forces are the artists and writers because if it was the Presence, like you think, he would have said external force (without the s). Plus external means outside the comic world. The Presence is still within the comic world.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Well when the Vertigo company started it started in the DC universe and and Yahweh was the Presence. That is not the case now as Vertigo has separated from continuity. The Presence has never been seen outside of Vertigo.

But either way you look at it the external forces are the artists and writers because if it was the Presence, like you think, he would have said external force (without the s). Plus external means outside the comic world. The Presence is still within the comic world.

Doesn't matter how you spin it, the presence in Lucifer's series, Is only shown as God of that collection of Multiverses. What about the other Vertigo multiverses? I am almost sure the spectre and the word and the endless have been in other verses, as well as the main dc. this would indicate that one being created all of this. The Presence oF DC. Thus any attempt to bring low the presence of DC is deconstructed upon the examination that the presence of DC is superior to the Presence of Vertio and is superlative of him. the presence of vertigo can only be constued as an aspect of the greater presence. Much like the Spectre has many Spectres and Michael has multiple aspects of himself.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doesn't matter how you spin it, the presence in Lucifer's series, Is only shown as God of that collection of Multiverses. What about the other Vertigo multiverses? I am almost sure the spectre and the word and the endless have been in other verses, as well as the main dc. this would indicate that one being created all of this. The Presence oF DC. Thus any attempt to bring low the presence of DC is deconstructed upon the examination that the presence of DC is superior to the Presence of Vertio and is superlative of him. the presence of vertigo can only be constued as an aspect of the greater presence. Much like the Spectre has many Spectres and Michael has multiple aspects of himself.

Thanos was the Almighty within the omniverse. It has been stated on panel, it has been stated in bios, and it has been stated from Marvel which cannot be debated.

So if you say that the Presence would beat Thanos w/ HOTI then you are essentially saying that DC's God is greater then Marvel's God, which is just wrong. It's a tie.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I'm not spining anything. Besides, by your logic, all of Lucy's feats can go to hell since they're from Vertigo.

Thanos was the Almighty within the omniverse. It has been stated on panel, it has been stated in bios, and it has been stated from Marvel which cannot be debated.

So if you say that the Presence would beat Thanos w/ HOTI then you are essentially saying that DC's God is greater then Marvel's God, which is just wrong. It's a tie.

WRONG. Thanos was Never marvel's God. He was less than Marvel's God. And Lucy's feats still count as he still defeated multiversal beings. He still controlled creation destroying power. Michael in DC still put a smack down on the spectre. So The michaels have to be in the same power level. Thus Luci Still pwned the power of God with nothing but his will.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WRONG. Thanos was Never marvel's God.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I see circles forming. Nvr you're never going to change. I tried being nice, but it's just plain to see that you will always be an intransigent fool.

Reported for bashing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Reported for bashing.

in·tran·si·gent

in·tran·si·gent [in tránssəjənt, in tránzəjənt]
adj
refusing to compromise: stubbornly or unreasonably refusing even to consider changing a decision or attitude

in·tran·si·gence, , n
-in·tran·si·gent·ly, , adv
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fool: ridiculous person: somebody considered to be or made to appear ridiculous
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Yes you refuse to compromise and I think you are a ridiculous person. I have every right to say those things.

Originally posted by Air Legend
That's not bashing.

in·tran·si·gent

in·tran·si·gent [in tránssəjənt, in tránzəjənt]
adj
refusing to compromise: stubbornly or unreasonably refusing even to consider changing a decision or attitude

in·tran·si·gence, , n
-in·tran·si·gent·ly, , adv
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
fool: ridiculous person: somebody considered to be or made to appear ridiculous
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Yes you refuse to compromise and I think you are a ridiculous person. I have every right to say those things.

Guys just play fair before the thread gets reported. Its just comics. We are all entitled to our opinion, right or wrong

Originally posted by Air Legend
That's not bashing.

in·tran·si·gent

in·tran·si·gent [in tránssəjənt, in tránzəjənt]
adj
refusing to compromise: stubbornly or unreasonably refusing even to consider changing a decision or attitude

in·tran·si·gence, , n
-in·tran·si·gent·ly, , adv
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
fool: ridiculous person: somebody considered to be or made to appear ridiculous
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Yes you refuse to compromise and I think you are a ridiculous person. I have every right to say those things.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Reported for bashing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I'm no better or worse than anyone on here, with the exception of the nerd who got me banned, whom ever that may be.

I see hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I see hypocrisy.

Actually you should see the irony. And the reason I'm better than the person who got me banned, is that they obviously aren't very respectable to me. Not for getting me banned. It was thier right to do. But because I think they lack any superior knowlege of comics and that just let slip what ever comes to mind.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WRONG. Thanos was Never marvel's God. He was less than Marvel's God.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was supreme and became god he was tricked into becoming god by god. god needed him to fix the flaw for him. when thanos took the heart he became supreme and could be beaten by no one. eternity acknlwodges right here he took the supreme power.

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loook upon ye and despair. he is supreme.

“everything the Almighty was I now am.” That’s right he’s Marvel’s God. Are you still going to be oblivious to this on panel evidence?

Originally posted by Air Legend
Okay I'm going to let a quanchi post own you.

[B]“everything the Almighty was I now am.” That’s right he’s Marvel’s God. Are you still going to be oblivious to this on panel evidence? [/B]

The post didn't own anything. Eternity says do you think THE UNIVERSE will let you rule over it. he mentions no omniverse or multiverse. Omnipotence is thrown around like cookie dough in marvel. You'll excuse me if I don't think Thanos was god. He certainly didn't create anything. He just fixed something of someone elses. we also know that thanos later recants his statement. he thought he was the ruler of the marvel u, and then he admits that he was tricked by the mater manipulator. When has God ever been tricked? Since thanos was everything that God was.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the reason I'm better than the person who got me banned, is that they obviously aren't very respectable to me. Not for getting me banned. But because I think they lack any superior knowlege of comics and that just let slip what ever comes to mind.