Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It's outside everything The Presence has created , outiside the Omniverse . He is the Darkness while The Presence is the Light . Ying and Yang . The Opposites .

ex·clude

ex·clude [ik skld]
(past and past participle ex·clud·ed, present participle ex·clud·ing, 3rd person present singular ex·cludes)
vt
1. keep somebody or something out: to prevent somebody or something from entering or participating
I felt excluded from the family celebrations.

2. reject somebody or something: to prevent somebody or something from being considered or accepted
cannot exclude the possibility of treason

3. omit something or somebody: to fail to include something or somebody
Three names were inadvertently excluded from the list.

[14th century. < Latin excludere "to shut out" < claudere "to shut"]

-ex·clud·a·bil·i·ty [ik skl&#63510;d&#601; bíll&#601;tee], , n
-ex·clud·a·ble, , adj
-ex·clud·er, , n
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

The GEB was exluded from the ordered universe since its creation. The Presence was the one that created and excluded it.

The GEB was exluded from the ordered universe since its creation. The Presence was the one that created and excluded it.

Try to understand the concept .
God represents the Light while GEB represents the Darkness .They are Opposites .The Presence didn't create GEB nor viceversa .Great Evil Beast existed before God created anything . He is there even before Creation .

Originally posted by Air Legend
I'm afraid that's not what it means. Here is the definition of exclude.

ex·clude

ex·clude [ik skl&#63507;d]
(past and past participle ex·clud·ed, present participle ex·clud·ing, 3rd person present singular ex·cludes)
vt
1. keep somebody or something out: to prevent somebody or something from entering or participating
I felt excluded from the family celebrations.

2. reject somebody or something: to prevent somebody or something from being considered or accepted
cannot exclude the possibility of treason

3. omit something or somebody: to fail to include something or somebody
Three names were inadvertently excluded from the list.

[14th century. < Latin excludere "to shut out" < claudere "to shut"]

-ex·clud·a·bil·i·ty [ik skl&#63510;d&#601; bíll&#601;tee], , n
-ex·clud·a·ble, , adj
-ex·clud·er, , n
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

The GEB was [B]exluded from the ordered universe since its creation. The Presence was the one that created and excluded it. [/B]

No where on panel does it state that the Presence created the GEB. Also, if the Presence excluded it....then why did He allow the GEB to escape....defeating Spectre and a host of others in the process? In the end...the GEB and the Presence are shown shaking hands. It seems that if the Presence meant to exclude something...then that something would not have the power to return.

Presence ftw

DC doesn't have an Omniverse, Erik. It's canon only 52 universes exist in the current DC Multiverse. Other multiverses like Vertigo and the like make up around maybe 2 or 3 in ALL DC Comics. That's at most a megaverse.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
No where on panel does it state that the Presence created the GEB.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Also, if the Presence excluded it....then why did He allow the GEB to escape....defeating Spectre and a host of others in the process?

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
In the end...the GEB and the Presence are shown shaking hands. It seems that if the Presence meant to exclude something...then that something would not have the power to return.

edit

There's a scan that says that GEB was before light. WTF, that means he was before the Presence. These DC writers don't use logic.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Well, something created it since it was excluded since its formation. Presence is suppose to be the creator of everything no? If not, then he is not supreme because you can only have one supreme being.

Obviously because the Presence isn't supreme.

Read above post.

edit

There's a scan that says that GEB was before light. WTF, that means he was before the Presence. These DC writers don't use logic.

Asking who created the GEB is like asking who created the Presence or who created TOAA. It's pointless and a stupid question.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Asking who created the GEB is like asking who created the Presence or who created TOAA. It's pointless and a stupid question.

Hey Mike, can you post the scan where the Presence says he was formed from external forces? I can't find it.

I don't have it. But he was referring to the writers.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I don't have it. But he was referring to the writers.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Hey Mike, can you post the scan where the Presence says he was formed from external forces? I can't find it.

The Presence is completely different.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was Yahweh, [Vertigo's God].

The Presence is completely different.

Originally posted by Air Legend
They are the same.

Originally posted by Galan007
So Elaine = the Presence now? 😱

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
That isn't really relevant to your point since this doesn't prove in any way Thanos even comes close to The Presence , which he shouldn't and doesn't.

Thanos alone doesn't come close to The Presence, but with HOTI, it's a different story.

I won't say THOTI wins, because The Presence is also Omnipotent, it should be a stalemate.

If go by feats, then Thanos with HOTI has the highest feat ever in a Comic Universe.

Originally posted by Air Legend
The Presence is referred to as Yahweh in the series.

So Elaine = the Presence.

I'll have to keep that in mind. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool.

So Elaine = the Presence.

I'll have to keep that in mind. 🙂

I never said that and you know it.

Besides, your analogy is entirely illogical.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool.

So Elaine = the Presence.

I'll have to keep that in mind. 🙂

Originally posted by Skeets
Back then you can make a case that Yahweh = the Presence,not anymore.
Considering the fact that both editors in chief have explained(several times) that DC and Vertigo follow separate Continuities...