Despite that Ogre's known as a god (As far as the T3 version goes) he's not anywhere near omnipotent. He's just exceptionally strong. However, I wouldn't pit the T3 version up against Akuma. It's the Devil Within version that would literally crush Akuma in his hands..
Jinpachi in his final form is just overkill, and Akuma loses whether or not he's fighting them 1 on 1.
Once Jimpachi can easily walk on the bottom of the ocean and take out submarines, he's Akuma's level. Except..he can't. He was in fact trapped for everal years under a big house. And only got out because it got blown up. Akuma, the guy who destroys islands, wouldn't be trapped I'd dare say.
And Ogre being near Akuma is just lol. I'm sorry but Ogre has NOTHING near Akuma's power. Not at all. The only canon version of Ogre is T3. Arguing DW is canon can't be proven so...I'm not allowing your opinion into debates of facts.
That's...hardly like quaking an entire landscape by powering up, and Jinpachi escaped because he lifted that boulder of his shoulders. Akuma destroyed his island with most if not all his energy, bud.
Actually Akuma being near Ogre is more ROTFLMFAO than anything. The day Akuma shakes the entire world while ascending to a greater form is when he'll be DW Ogre level.
Edit: Ok, if you're not allowing the DW version, Tekken team still wins. Jinpachi AND T3 Ogre is still more than enough to take out Akuma. Stop overrating the "Master of the Fists."
That's...hardly like quaking an entire landscape by powering up.
Good for him.
PROVE he can DESTROY an entire landscape with an attack or concede. Shaking the ground is hardly the be-all and end-all, I'm afraid.
Actually Akuma being near Ogre is more ROTFLMFAO than anything. The day Akuma shakes the entire world while ascending to a greater form is when he'll be DW Ogre level.
DW doesn't exist...so yeah.
And ROFLMAO at the idea that Ogre can destroy an island with one blow and then get STRONGER, vastly stronger, since then.
Originally posted by NikkolasBefore I start confirming anything, how about you prove that Akuma destroyed an island with one attack, and explain how long it took him to do so and to what extend he has destroyed the island, how big the island was, and whether or not it didn't just crack up and sink to the bottom of the ocean, and it's not just Jinpachi's strength that would give him the win. It's also his ability to drain life, teleport, and possess claws that rip flesh easily.
Good for him.PROVE he can DESTROY an entire landscape with an attack or concede. Shaking the ground is hardly the be-all and end-all, I'm afraid.
DW doesn't exist...so yeah.
And ROFLMAO at the idea that Ogre can destroy an island with one blow and then get STRONGER, vastly stronger, since then.
LOL @ DW doesn't exist. Anyway, so basically you're not using that version. That's settled then. So it's T3 Ogre and Jinpachi versus S. Akuma. I don't see him taking on the two at once, but seeing as you believe Akuma would stand a chance against the likes of: Sephiroth, Darth Sion, etc., I'm not surprised you're saying he would defeat these guys as well.
LOL, just what feats does Ryu have that put him above Jinpachi? hysterical
Lifting a boulder? That was Jinpachi's opening feat.
Dodging bullets? Jinpachi teleports.
So, what else?
Has Ryu shaken land while ascending to a greater form? Nah.
Before I start confirming anything, how about you prove that Akuma destroyed an island with one attack, and explain how long it took him to do so and to what extend he has destroyed the island, how big the island was, and whether or not it didn't just crack up and sink to the bottom of the ocean
That's like asking someone to prove Silver Surfer is FTL.
It's common knowledge.
If you want me to make exact calculations on the size of the island and how long it took to destroy it, you prove how lshaking the ground makes Jinpachi more powerful than Akuma. It certainly doesn't display any destructive power.
and it's not just Jinpachi's strength that would give him the win. It's also his ability to drain life, teleport, and possess claws that rip flesh easily.
So now you need gameplay...sad.
Anyway, so basically you're not using that version. That's settled then.
Yes, I don't use non-canon things.
but seeing as you believe Akuma would stand a chance against the likes of: Sephiroth, Darth Sion
Well, since NO ONE could PROVE Sion could beat Akuma with anything resembling facts, I think it's very easy for Akuma to beat him.
Not only does Sion's "immortality" not even compare with Akuma's natural durability (walking on the bottom of the ocean) people kept saying Sion would nail him with a lightsaber...when none of them could even prove Sion is that fast. In fact, he appears quite slow and is outrigth stated to have zero technique. He's just a physical beast who has nothing physically on par with Akuma's showings.
As for Sephiroth...he also can't match Akuma's durability and strength feats. Chopping through buildings just doesn't match up with what Akuma can do. It's more a feat of his sword. It's known to have special properties afterall.
Originally posted by NikkolasYou started mentioning Akuma's feats first - you give the proof first, or I'll just say that I agree with you just so you won't throw a tantrum.
That's like asking someone to prove Silver Surfer is FTL.It's common knowledge.
If you want me to make exact calculations on the size of the island and how long it took to destroy it, you prove how lshaking the ground makes Jinpachi more powerful than Akuma. It certainly doesn't display any destructive power.
So now you need gameplay...sad.
Yes, I don't use non-canon things.
Well, since NO ONE could PROVE Sion could beat Akuma with anything resembling facts, I think it's very easy for Akuma to beat him.
Not only does Sion's "immortality" not even compare with Akuma's natural durability (walking on the bottom of the ocean) people kept saying Sion would nail him with a lightsaber...when none of them could even prove Sion is that fast. In fact, he appears quite slow and is outrigth stated to have zero technique. He's just a physical beast who has nothing physically on par with Akuma's showings.
As for Sephiroth...he also can't match Akuma's durability and strength feats. Chopping through buildings just doesn't match up with what Akuma can do. It's more a feat of his sword. It's known to have special properties afterall.
Only sad thing there is you apparently don't think that claws can rip flesh...😂
That's great.
Don't argue them here. Argue them in the proper threads. You won't have anyone agreeing with you on your opinions 'cept a few like remy.
Originally posted by Guilty GearI would say that it is...but certainly its no breaking an island with one blow or withstanding a deep pressures of underwater or easily breaking a submarine... and for all Ogre's title what has he really done...beaten a couple of martial artists and lost to Jin...Akuma has killed M. Bison, Gouken, beaten Ken, killed Gen,etc...
Wait...why was Nikkolas saying Jinpachi hasn't displays of destructive power? So tearing apart the ground and incinerating opponents isn't destructive?