Shin Akuma vs. Jinpachi & Ogre

Started by Nikkolas4 pages

'cause you're a Muggle.

Originally posted by Last Fre3lancer
There's an Orochi Shin Akuma?

Yeah, in CVS2.

Personally I think Shin Akuma has more than a chance of winning this fight. Jin defeated Ogre, and Jin is about the equivalent to Ryu who wouldn't last a second against Akuma. (As seen in CVSNK Chaos Comic where Ryu is wiped out in one blow by Mr Karate, Akumas only real equal). And this isn't just Akuma it's SHIN Akuma making him pretty much twice as strong. Jinpachi on the other hand can teleport, Akuma has his shadow step. Jinpachi has an energy blast, Akuma has various types. Jinpachi makes a little earthquake, Akuma goes all Moses on us and parts an ocean. (CVSNK Chaos S.Akuma ending). Akuma wins this.

Once Jimpachi can easily walk on the bottom of the ocean and take out submarines, he's Akuma's level. Except..he can't. He was in fact trapped for everal years under a big house. And only got out because it got blown up. Akuma, the guy who destroys islands, wouldn't be trapped I'd dare say.

the day akuma threatens existence on the planet, then we'll see....except that he doesn't. 😉

I was going to post
"looks at thread, looks at the thread maker and walks away in disgust" but then i just happened to read this fanboyish post and decided to reply. oh and for the record, he was trapped under a huge temple while holding up a boulder for more than 50 years in his HUMAN form...not devil form.
get a grip, nikkolas. you're embarrassing yourself.

~Sado

the day akuma threatens existence on the planet, then we'll see....except that he doesn't.

Except Akuma doesn't WANT to threaten the existence of the planet....

And since Jinpachi never came close to doing that either, it's irrelevant.

Jinpachi never killed a single person or destroyed even the smallest bit of land under his own power, much less "threatened existence."

Now, prove up. Prove he has durability on par with Akuma.

oh and for the record, he was trapped under a huge temple while holding up a boulder for more than 50 years in his HUMAN form...not devil form.

Yeah...that's not canon in the game anywhere. It's in the trailer according to that video. Point to where it's in the ACTUAL GAME.

get a grip, nikkolas. you're embarrassing yourself.

Anyone who thinks Jinpachi can "threaten existence" is the one embarrassing themselves.

Fact is, everything Akuma has done is better than everything Jinpachi has done. Which is...nothing.

i was under the impression we go by feats.

How is shaking the ground a feat?
It can't be used as an indication of power at all. Because it has no bearing on what Jinpachi can do. Shaking the ground doesn't indicate how much he can destroy or lift or defend against. It's totally worthless.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Except Akuma doesn't WANT to threaten the existence of the planet....
......LOL
Originally posted by Nikkolas
And since Jinpachi never came close to doing that either, it's irrelevant.
He was a threat to all existence genius...
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Jinpachi never killed a single person.
This is almost as bad as Remulous's argument that since pokemon have never killed a human being, they can't. 😂

Originally posted by Nikkolas
or destroyed even the smallest bit of land under his own power, much less "threatened existence."
The area where he's fought is a barren wasteland. Obviously the only thing a person can do to show destructive power in that type of area is by tearing apart the ground, which Jinpachi was shown doing while he was ascending to his final form. As for "his own power", giving into the Dark Hadou isn't much different than getting possessed by a devil. 😉

And, you still have yet to answer the questions regarding Akuma's "island busting" feat.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Now, prove up. Prove he has durability on par with Akuma.
How about you get to answering the questions regarding Akuma's ocean pressure feat. Oh, and as for Jinpachi's durability: Invulnerability to flames, and being able to survive under a crushing boulder without getting wasted for 40+ years, and that was without devil.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Yeah...that's not canon in the game anywhere. It's in the trailer according to that video. Point to where it's in the ACTUAL GAME.
That was the Tekken DR intro...LOL
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Anyone who thinks Jinpachi can "threaten existence" is the one embarrassing themselves.
Go buy a copy of Tekken 5 please.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Fact is, everything Akuma has done is better than everything Jinpachi has done. Which is...nothing.
I was right. You are turning into shin_nikkolas. 😆

......LOL

It's kinda true. Akuma has proven himself far more dangerous to the planet than Jinpachi. ya know, FEATS. Which Jinpachi doesn't have.

He was a threat to all existence genius...

Sure he was. That's why he never did anything remotely close to that, right?

This is almost as bad as Remulous's argument that since pokemon have never killed a human being, they can't.

Excetp Pokemon have proven they can. Mewtwo was gonna actually KILl all humans and stopped himself. he was actively doing something to show he could kill all existence...unlike Jinpachi.

giving into the Dark Hadou isn't much different than getting possessed by a devil.

Devil power is inherited.
Akuma learned and mastered his abilities.

And, you still have yet to answer the questions regarding Akuma's "island busting" feat.

And you still have yet to prove Jinpachi shook the world.

How about you get to answering the questions regarding Akuma's ocean pressure feat. Oh, and as for Jinpachi's durability: Invulnerability to flames, and being able to survive under a crushing boulder without getting wasted for 40+ years, and that was without devil.

So you want me to start bringing up the pressure at that depth in teh ocean while you aren't gonna provide even the weight of that "crushing boulder"?

Seems unfair.

That was the Tekken DR intro...LOL

It says Trailer. Why should I think it's the Intro?

Go buy a copy of Tekken 5 please.

I did. Thanks to a bunch of Jacks, he got out.
He was then promptly beaten and destroyed.

That's all he did.

I was right. You are turning into shin_nikkolas.

You're kinda the person everyone is laughing at.

"Jinpachi can shake the planet!" - lol

And you repeatedly tell me to prove things I say when you can't prove anything you say at all. I'm not gonna waste my time in analzying evidence that is clear.

-Akuma destroyed an island. FACT
-Akuma was on the bottom of the ocean and destroyed a submarine - FACT.

Akuma beats Jinpachi. Be quiet and concede.

Holy Michael Jackson of nose surgery, He's become shin_Nikkolas.

I just love listenign to you two babble and flame on while GG makes up stuff and lies his ass off.

I just love to listen to your fanboyism reach ridicoulous levels. You really need to broaden your character list. Akuma fanboyism is starting to become a lost cause.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
i was under the impression we go by feats.
Clear feats that can be gauged and calculated.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
How is shaking the ground a feat?
Not just the ground, the entire landscape in the background, and it obviously takes a shit load of power to accomplish that. Though, was Jinpachi just doing that? Of course not. You can clearly see the land around him getting blown and ripped apart very quickly, just as a result of reaching a transformation. 😕

Also, how is destroying/wrecking/singing/etc. an island a feat when it's not even clear?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
It can't be used as an indication of power at all.
Yes, it can. Shit that's like saying Chaos taking down Omega and quaking the Earth isn't an indication of power.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Because it has no bearing on what Jinpachi can do.
...All of his moves is what he can do. Oh, and don't tell me again that since he's never done his moves in cutscenes, then he can't do them; his fighting style is the same as Heihachi's. In fact, Heihachi learned Mishima Ryu from him. Jinpachi's other lethal moves are his as well. Pretty much the only thing in most cases that is obvious bs in gameplay is invulnerability when it doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Shaking the ground doesn't indicate how much he can destroy.
He has destroyed land before in his ending...though, you don't allow it, obviously since you're desperate for Akuma to take a victory home.

Oh, and when Devil Jin inherited Jinpachi's power, he literally destroyed his surroundings with an energy burst that was released from his body, and this wasn't Jinpachi's full power; it wasn't close for that matter.

And once again, fire is known by..everyone to destroy things. Fire is even a form of plasma.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
or lift or defend against.
Lifted a boulder mounted on him for 40+ years...this is getting repetitive...

Invulnerability to flames...once again. Why do you keep ignoring these statements? 😕

Originally posted by Nikkolas
It's totally worthless.
Yeah you are.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
It's kinda true. Akuma has proven himself far more dangerous to the planet than Jinpachi. ya know, FEATS. Which Jinpachi doesn't have.

Sure he was. That's why he never did anything remotely close to that, right?

Excetp Pokemon have proven they can. Mewtwo was gonna actually KILl all humans and stopped himself. he was actively doing something to show he could kill all existence...unlike Jinpachi.

Devil power is inherited.
Akuma learned and mastered his abilities.

And you still have yet to prove Jinpachi shook the world.

So you want me to start bringing up the pressure at that depth in teh ocean while you aren't gonna provide even the weight of that "crushing boulder"?

Seems unfair.

It says Trailer. Why should I think it's the Intro?

I did. Thanks to a bunch of Jacks, he got out.
He was then promptly beaten and destroyed.

That's all he did.

You're kinda the person everyone is laughing at.

"Jinpachi can shake the planet!" - lol

And you repeatedly tell me to prove things I say when you can't prove anything you say at all. I'm not gonna waste my time in analzying evidence that is clear.

-Akuma destroyed an island. FACT
-Akuma was on the bottom of the ocean and destroyed a submarine - FACT.

Akuma beats Jinpachi. Be quiet and concede.

Everything that I've already said refutes this. You wasted your time with that. 😕

And you do realize that you're pitting Akuma against Jinpachi AND Ogre, correct?

Also, didn't you say you were leaving?

...All of his moves is what he can do. Oh, and don't tell me again that since he's never done his moves in cutscenes, then he can't do them; his fighting style is the same as Heihachi's. In fact, Heihachi learned Mishima Ryu from him. Jinpachi's other lethal moves are his as well. Pretty much the only thing in most cases that is obvious bs in gameplay is invulnerability when it doesn't make sense.

It's Mishima Style Fighting Karate. Not Mishima Ryu.

And also, where does it say he learned it from Jinpachi? The Jinpachi we fight in game has powers Heihachi doesn't.

And finally, I don't remember Heihachi showing any powers in canon except immense strength and durability.

Not just the ground, the entire landscape in the background, and it obviously takes a shit load of power to accomplish that. Though, was Jinpachi just doing that? Of course not. You can clearly see the land around him getting blown and ripped apart very quickly, just as a result of reaching a transformation.

Yes, so a burst of energy and power that he never showed he could channel intoa canonically destructive ability.

How handy.

He has destroyed land before in his ending...though, you don't allow it, obviously since you're desperate for Akuma to take a victory home.

No, I don't allow it 'cause it's non-canon.

I don't bring up Akuma taking apart meteors and stuff 'cause it's also non-canon.

Oh, and when Devil Jin inherited Jinpachi's power, he literally destroyed his surroundings with an energy burst that was released from his body, and this wasn't Jinpachi's full power; it wasn't close for that matter.

So...Jin just absorbed a bit of his power? All the latent power Jinpachi never activated was not sucked up? Says who?

And you can't tell me how much is DJ's own power and how much is Jinpachi's. It could be their COMBINED strength that allows Jin to do that.

And once again, fire is known by..everyone to destroy things. Fire is even a form of plasma.

Temperature of the fire is the key as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you claim it can incinerate people.

Lifted a boulder mounted on him for 40+ years...this is getting repetitive...

Invulnerability to flames...once again. Why do you keep ignoring these statements?

A boulder and some fire, immense durability does not make.

Akuma owns submarines, let alone boulders.

Your repeated unfounded lies are getting tiresome. Incinerating people...never did that. Shaking the world...never did that. Blah blah blah.


Also, didn't you say you were leaving?

There are a few saving graces for this forum. V1D and SBP make good thread and are not full of bias, unlike yourself.

V1D, LOL. The threads that GG makes are actually good, unlike those Akuma ones you make which is intended to be just to get Tekken fans angry and make your fanboyism known even more. If you say you are leaving, mean what you say. Akuma fonboyism is a lost cause now.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
It's Mishima Style Fighting Karate. Not Mishima Ryu.
Whatever.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
And also, where does it say he learned it from Jinpachi? The Jinpachi we fight in game has powers Heihachi doesn't.
What does style have to do with power? 😕

Originally posted by Nikkolas
And finally, I don't remember Heihachi showing any powers in canon except immense strength and durability.
When did I argue Heihachi's "powers"?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Yes, so a burst of energy and power that he never showed he could channel intoa canonically destructive ability.

How handy.

No, I don't allow it 'cause it's non-canon.

I don't bring up Akuma taking apart meteors and stuff 'cause it's also non-canon.

So...Jin just absorbed a bit of his power? All the latent power Jinpachi never activated was not sucked up? Says who?

And you can't tell me how much is DJ's own power and how much is Jinpachi's. It could be their COMBINED strength that allows Jin to do that.

Temperature of the fire is the key as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you claim it can incinerate people.

A boulder and some fire, immense durability does not make.

Akuma owns submarines, let alone boulders.

Your repeated unfounded lies are getting tiresome. Incinerating people...never did that. Shaking the world...never did that. Blah blah blah.

There are a few saving graces for this forum. V1D and SBP make good thread and are not full of bias, unlike yourself.

Fire, as we know it, can incinerate people. There's not a temperature at which fire can exist and not be able to cremate someone.

Owning boulders and submarines does not confirm durability. Your reasoning is almost as bad as DesRayMan's. 😕

And talk about bias. You're the ass who made a thread believing that Akuma can do all of his feats gloriously, and pit him against two characters who you think have no "feats".

You disregard what they've accomplished canonically, and you leave out everything they've been shown to do in their endings/other game modes so your dear Akuma can be victorious as you want him to be against the likes of Sephiroth and Darth Sion. 😂

In other terms, you made this thread out of spite thinking these bosses haven't any feats, while riding Akuma's penis as usual.

Way to get your thread reported.

Mishima-Ryuu means Mishima Style.

The fact that he gouges Jinpachi's and Ogre's feats into the toiltet, and letting Akuma get all of the glory is spite indeed. The fanboyism in his heart clouds his judgement. Remember what I said Nikkolas:Broaden your character line.

I can see Shin Akuma using Misogi and remove Ogre's head in one sweep. After that fatigue may cause Shin Akuma to lose against Jinpachi, or Jinpachi may uses a cheap ass fireball shot after he sees Shin Akuma kill Ogre.

But as you know, he'll just gouge thier feats like before.