Originally posted by Battlehammer
umm karnak power is useless on a human body since any skilled martial artist in tier 3 and above no were those weak points are as well.
Karnak can find a weak spot in ANYTHING, even Sue's shield.
All inhuman have enhanced physical stats, including Karnak. Speed's a problem for him? read Inhumans v#2 or v#3.
Originally posted by llagrok
Karnak can find a weak spot in ANYTHING, even Sue's shield.All inhuman have enhanced physical stats, including Karnak. Speed's a problem for him? read Inhumans v#2 or v#3.
So he can see weak spots in any thing wow how that gunna help him vs capt? All he gunna see is all the weak spot capt already knows about. Capt will also know all of karnak weak spots and capts the superior fighter by a large margin.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
did I say any thing abotu speed not that it matter since Black panther shown twice that he faster then Karnak.So he can see weak spots in any thing wow how that gunna help him vs capt? All he gunna see is all the weak spot capt already knows about. Capt will also know all of karnak weak spots and capts the superior fighter by a large margin.
How old is your source on that?
Karnak has many feats that put him above Cap, and how can you claim that Cap is a much better martial artist than him? I highly doubt he's spent more time training than him. I'll get some scans up when I'm outta school.
Originally posted by llagrok
How old is your source on that?Karnak has many feats that put him above Cap, and how can you claim that Cap is a much better martial artist than him? I highly doubt he's spent more time training than him. I'll get some scans up when I'm outta school.
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oh and Id love to see a feat of karnak that beats capt.
I wanna make a karnak vs wolverine thread but it be a spite
Originally posted by llagrok
How old is your source on that?Karnak has many feats that put him above Cap, and how can you claim that Cap is a much better martial artist than him? I highly doubt he's spent more time training than him. I'll get some scans up when I'm outta school.
Karnak is better at finding weak points but apart from that Cap is probably a better fighter. Karnak has been owned by Bp twice and one occasion pre-Hudlin. Karnak also seems to be w quite slow compared to most street-levellers and thats why he will lose.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Karnak is better at finding weak points but apart from that Cap is probably a better fighter. Karnak has been owned by Bp twice and one occasion pre-Hudlin. Karnak also seems to be w quite slow compared to most street-levellers and thats why he will lose.
karnak abiltiy to find week points is useless vs captain america. Since capt already knows were all his weak points are......
Originally posted by llagrok
How old is your source on that?Karnak has many feats that put him above Cap, and how can you claim that Cap is a much better martial artist than him? I highly doubt he's spent more time training than him. I'll get some scans up when I'm outta school.
Very recently in BP, Panther made him look slow and Cap is about as fast as BP so there is no reason to assume that Cap couldn't do the same.
Yeah, of course. Cap is faster than Karnak 🙄
Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, of course. Cap is faster than Karnak 🙄
Snap nothing..thats a bio, bios are innaccurate. Didnt bios states that Namor didnt have class100 strenght? Didnt bios state that the Things could only lift at max 85 tons? Well the Thing can lift more than 85 tons and thats because his showings in comics show it.
Karnaks bio may say that he is fatser than Cap but he has no showings in comics that suggest this.
MARVEL states that Karnak is faster, there are certain things you can't just ignore. Inhuman physiology grants him enhanced speed, strength and endurance.
Speed feats:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-010-10.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-011-10.jpg
Imagine if he had blocked a punch or a backhand:
http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/?action=view¤t=Silent_War_002_004.jpg
He couldn't take out the Hulk, but he could've taken out an elephant:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-012-12.jpg
More feats:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-010-14.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-009-03.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-009-12.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v3-1of4-11.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-006-13.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-004-08.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-002-14.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-002-17.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/character%20pictures/Inhumans-v1-03-03.jpg
Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, of course. Cap is faster than Karnak 🙄
Red is fan votes isn't it?
All the feats in the world doesn't take away from the fact that Panther has embaressed him twice and made him look slow and Panther is human, near peak human granted but still human.
And its not like Cap has no speed and agility feats of his own.
Originally posted by Hercules
Red is fan votes isn't it?All the feats in the world doesn't take away from the fact that Panther has embaressed him twice and made him look slow and Panther is human, near peak human granted but still human.
And its not like Cap has no speed and agility feats of his own.
dur
I'm not talking about the stats, but about the fact that his power description actually compares him to Captain America.
The Black Panther is peak human without his suit, he goes above that when he's wearing it. There is no way he's below peak human, he killed a gang of the strongest tribesmen(they were armed) barehanded to prove his worth as a king. Don't underestimate the Black Panther, as he is more than capable of hanging with Cap and in my opinion he's much more agile.
Karnak was being influenced during their latest encounter and being beaten once by the Black Panther does by no means put him below Cap. Also, take a look at some of his speed feats. He moves fast.
Originally posted by llagrok
durI'm not talking about the stats, but about the fact that his power description actually compares him to Captain America.
The Black Panther is peak human without his suit, he goes above that when he's wearing it. There is no way he's below peak human, he killed a gang of the strongest tribesmen(they were armed) barehanded to prove his worth as a king. Don't underestimate the Black Panther, as he is more than capable of hanging with Cap and in my opinion he's much more agile.
Karnak was being influenced during their latest encounter and being beaten once by the Black Panther does by no means put him below Cap. Also, take a look at some of his speed feats. He moves fast.
I agree with the main point, but black panther stats have nothing to due with his suit, his bio has him at superhuman, a level which he has been performing at lately, and has feats to back it up.
Not to mention, black panther has outmaneuvered nearly every major street-leveler at some point in his career.
Originally posted by llagrok
durI'm not talking about the stats, but about the fact that his power description actually compares him to Captain America.
Wow that dur was really uncalled for. You do realise just because it states that he is compareble to ap it doesnt mean it has. You do realise that marvel has stated 100s of things which are not accurate? this therefore means just because Marvel says something its not necceasrily correct. In fcat bios are generally not accurate.
Originally posted by llagrok
The Black Panther is peak human without his suit, he goes above that when he's wearing it. There is no way he's below peak human, he killed a gang of the strongest tribesmen(they were armed) barehanded to prove his worth as a king. Don't underestimate the Black Panther, as he is more than capable of hanging with Cap and in my opinion he's much more agile.
1. Cap isnt peak human
2. Bps suit does not enhance his strength or speed.
Originally posted by llagrok
Karnak was being influenced during their latest encounter and being beaten once by the Black Panther does by no means put him below Cap. Also, take a look at some of his speed feats. He moves fast.
karnak has been beaten twice by BP. He moves fast but he doesnt have feats that put him on Cap or Bps level.....as far as I know.
Originally posted by llagrok
durI'm not talking about the stats, but about the fact that his power description actually compares him to Captain America.
The Black Panther is peak human without his suit, he goes above that when he's wearing it. There is no way he's below peak human, he killed a gang of the strongest tribesmen(they were armed) barehanded to prove his worth as a king. Don't underestimate the Black Panther, as he is more than capable of hanging with Cap and in my opinion he's much more agile.
Karnak was being influenced during their latest encounter and being beaten once by the Black Panther does by no means put him below Cap. Also, take a look at some of his speed feats. He moves fast.
But again, arn't those bios written by fans not Marvel being as its a wiki?
No need for the dur, I was asking a question...
Well, when BP was with the Avengers and they were fighting the lava men he was the first to go down due to the heat, Cap remarked that he didn't have the super solider serum to keep him going and that he was just human.
he was wearing the suit then, I have seen your speed feats and I haven't seen anything from him speed wise that out does Cap imo.
Physicaly to me they are pretty evenly matched and Cap has a shield which Karnak can't break and is fast enough to block his blows, I think that gives him the edge for a majority here.
Originally posted by Hercules
But again, arn't those bios written by fans not Marvel being as its a wiki?
Thats true but even if it were it doesnt change a damn thing. All inhumans are slightly tougher than your average human but that doesnt mean that Karnak has to be better than Cap, Cap is simply better trained.
Originally posted by Hercules
Well, when BP was with the Avengers and they were fighting the lava men he was the first to go down due to the heat, Cap remarked that he didn't have the super solider serum to keep him going and that he was just human.
When you see some of the other stuff hes taken that just sounds like PIS. Hel he even kicked one of them in the head from what I can remember.
