Originally posted by Bardock42
Haha, or you were just fed social(ist) propaganda instead of thinking for yourself and understand the fundamental use and truth of the libertarian approach.
First of all, I'm not a socialist. I fully understand that it's a market economy that drives economic growth. But one need only look at the current sub prime meltdown in the US to see what happens when business functions without regulation. Libertarians aren't against monopolies. Libertarians favor unrestricted immigration. Libertarians favor allowing corporate interests to supersede national interests. This model simply doesn't work for "liberty". It serves only to concentrate wealth and turn give financial entities power that should belong to political ones.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
First of all, I'm not a socialist. I fully understand that it's a market economy that drives economic growth. But one need only look at the current sub prime meltdown in the US to see what happens when business functions without regulation. Libertarians aren't against monopolies. Libertarians favor unrestricted immigration. Libertarians favor allowing corporate interests to supersede national interests. This model simply doesn't work for "liberty". It serves only to concentrate wealth and turn give financial entities power that should belong to political ones.
I didn't say you were a socialist.
Libertarians are not for corporations. They are for freedom of everyone. You don't actually consider the US a libertarian country, do you?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I didn't say you were a socialist.Libertarians are not for corporations. They are for freedom of everyone. You don't actually consider the US a libertarian country, do you?
Freedom for everyone? What a joke. Look closely at the Libertarian agenda and the only result of them coming to power is big business controls everything.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Freedom for everyone? What a joke. Look closely at the Libertarian agenda and the only result of them coming to power is big business controls everything.
What liberals do in the US isn't necessarily what Liberals should be doing.
Never the less, from what I can see they still allow for more personal freedoms then most republicans. Only problem is that they are heavily conservative liberals compared to most liberals in other country's, because of the powerful republican party in the US.
Originally posted by FishyThough to be fair, we are talking about libertarians.
What liberals do in the US isn't necessarily what Liberals should be doing.Never the less, from what I can see they still allow for more personal freedoms then most republicans. Only problem is that they are heavily conservative liberals compared to most liberals in other country's, because of the powerful republican party in the US.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2Haha...yes, freedom for everyone. 😐
Freedom for everyone? What a joke. Look closely at the Libertarian agenda and the only result of them coming to power is big business controls everything.
What do you base your bullshit "big businesses control everything" on?
Originally posted by Bardock42What do you base your bullshit "big businesses control everything" on?
It's not bullshit. What do you think will happen if there is no government law?
Corporations will be able to merge at will eliminating competition and giving them the ability to manipulate markets.
Unlimited free trade meaning wherever the cheapest labor is.
No recourse for average citizens against the powers that be IE "big business".
Without government to keep them in check, large corporations in effect become the government, without the checks and balances, since they control the money.
Only a niave fool believes that everone would be "free" if you removed government from the picture.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
It's not bullshit. What do you think will happen if there is no government law?Corporations will be able to merge at will eliminating competition and giving them the ability to manipulate markets.
Unlimited free trade meaning wherever the cheapest labor is.
No recourse for average citizens against the powers that be IE "big business".
Without government to keep them in check, large corporations in effect become the government, without the checks and balances, since they control the money.
Only a niave fool believes that everone would be "free" if you removed government from the picture.
We are talking about libertarians, not anarchists.
You not knowing the difference does discredit your opinion quite a bit though, in my opinion..
In a way I agree with the things you said about anarchism though, just, that it has more problems than just corporations killing everyone.
Re: Re: Ron Paul for president? A Republican or A LiBeRtArIaN?
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
That we're in a world of shit if it ever comes to power. Libertarians are Republicans on steroids. Libertarians advocate "liberty" for those only with large amounts of money. They want to take power away from government and give that power to giant corporations. What middle class? What America? The global elite are the libertarians.
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Um, as a libertarian myself, I can honestly say you're a idiot 😉
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Well, that's a well reasoned intelligent post....NOT! Libertarians may want a government but they don't want it to have any teeth. What a moron you are.
Obviously you do not know one thing about libertarian believes. As I thought you were just fed propaganda and don't think for yourself. You are the equivalent of a redneck saying that Democrats want to create a communist society.