Ron Paul for president? A Republican or A LiBeRtArIaN?

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Libertarians basically ARE anarchists.

wrong. read the constitution. it's starts with the mind and property, meaning, i don't tell you what to think of yourself, you have freedom of association (meaning i am not to tell you who you should associate with, now, if they don't want to associate with you, that's not the issue, the issue is no one should tell you who you should associate with, esp. if there is a mutual acceptance, what some controlling folks try to do is create disharmony so that there is a break in mutual acceptance, and then, they inadvertanly control that person's freedom of assocition). people don't have a right to your property (your life, work, income).

if you see what fraud means, fraud means force, if i force myself into your mind, it brings you to slavery.

Originally posted by Bardock42
(edit by CC) you (edit) don't think for yourself.

+1

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Well, that's a well reasoned intelligent post....NOT! Libertarians may want a government but they don't want it to have any teeth. What a moron you are.

Libertarians are for a VERY powerful state, and a very centralized state, however, they are interested in a state with limited application of said "teethy" power.

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most Libertarians are notoriously tough on crime.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Libertarians basically ARE anarchists.

and about the mind, if you want to be a pawn to a group or cause, let's say for beneficial or alterist motivation(s), as long as it's concentual, I can't say that you are being a slave to them, unless you don't want to offer that service and your mind is being forced into it.

and if you want to offer it to a group that looks like you or not, it's not up to me to tell you which group you can associate with (freedom of association), esp. if it's mutual. if i try to intervene and make trouble, and go to them reporting bad news about you and in turn, going to you reporting bad things about them, i'm forcing my will upon you in a indirect manner, yet still aggressive in action. and my motive of this is wrong if this group isn't violating the liberty of another, no matter if that group looks like neither you nor I.

if that group isn't causing you or I to lose income (the right to earn income), association (slander), robbing your home or bank account, or raping your body or mind; if that group isn't violating another person's liberty, why would i tell you or anyone else who you should associate with whom or how you ought to think?

Originally posted by Imaginary
Withdrawal from the UN?

Oh, bloody brilliant 🙄

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Libertarians basically ARE anarchists.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
+1

Editing quotes can be considered bashing, CC, especially when it doesn't contribute to anything and is not done in good humor.

Don't do it again.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Editing quotes can be considered bashing, CC, especially when it doesn't contribute to anything and is not done in good humor.

Don't do it again.

Ok thanks.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you guys even heard of him, I haven't.

What do you think about the Libertarian Party?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Originally posted by lord xyz
He's not that bad, he won't win though.

It's too far away to decide who's the best match for Americans.

Really wanting to know if he was a true libertarian or moderate one.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
It's too far away to decide who's the best match for Americans.

Really wanting to know if he was a true libertarian or moderate one.

I'll say this much, he's a touch bizarre for me, though I understand where he's coming from.