DE Sidious Vs Exar Kun and Naga Sadow

Started by Darth Sexy3 pages

The real question is, why on earth is Jacen considered top tier? Because he had his 5 year peace quest? I mean they're making him somewhat equal to Luke already, and this guy hasn't done a damn thing. On the level of Sidious? Give me a break. He looks like a scared, underaged female.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Wrong, Yoda did those things but not while fighting with his saber, and it doesn't matter anyways, because this is a duel with sabers / sith swords, not with blasters.

Erm, yes, Yoda was fighting his saber...what's he using to slice through the battle droids and deflect bullets? You're probably confusing separate instances.

When has Luke EVER fought with a sword?

I didn't say he did. I said he lifts one without any effort.

Hell, the Dark Underlord used Jar'Kai as a style to fight with two Ancient Sith Swords and if you've seen pictures of the man, he's positively corpselike and emaciated

The swords the Dark Underlord and Tavion used were absolutely nothing like the ones we saw Sadow and Kressh swinging around. The DU's blades looked like vibroswords from KotOR, and Tavion's was hidden in a staff; the sizes aren't even comparable to the older variants. Not to mention that the material the blades are crafted from are obviously completely different. The thinner Sith swords were made of metal, while the ancients' weapons looked crystalline.

And now, when did Luke ever lift a blade like Sadow's? That's not to say that he couldn't, but considering that after the decline of the ancient Sith we never see their brand of swords again, there'd be nothing impressive about him raising a blade akin to those of the Dark Underlord or Tavion.

Erm, yes, Yoda was fighting his saber...what's he using to slice through the battle droids and deflect bullets? You're probably confusing separate instances.

Just for you, I'll check.

I was right, he jumps off the cliff, where they can't attack him, before using the Force to drop a huge chunk of rock and snow on them. Chapter 15, near the end, watch it.

Originally posted by Faunus
The swords the Dark Underlord and Tavion used were absolutely nothing like the ones we saw Sadow and Kressh swinging around. The DU's blades looked like vibroswords from KotOR, and Tavion's was hidden in a staff; the sizes aren't even comparable to the older variants. Not to mention that the material the blades are crafted from are obviously completely different. The thinner Sith swords were made of metal, while the ancients' weapons looked crystalline.

I wouldn't call a crystalline sword

And the DU's swords are described as Ancient Sith swords. Key word being 'ancient.' We've only got one picture of the Underlord and none of him in combat.

My point being, that the idea that they weigh hundreds of pounds is faulty at best when I can't think of any two depictions of Sith Swords that resemble the other.


And now, when did Luke ever lift a blade like Sadow's? That's not to say that he couldn't, but considering that after the decline of the ancient Sith we never see their brand of swords again, there'd be nothing impressive about him raising a blade akin to those of the Dark Underlord or Tavion.

At one point, Luke lifts up an ancient Sith sword to inspect it.

And Tavion's sword was Marka Ragnos's.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Just for you, I'll check.

I was right, he jumps off the cliff, where they can't attack him, before using the Force to drop a huge chunk of rock and snow on them. Chapter 15, near the end, watch it.


Considering I'm not remotely talking about the cartoon...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I wouldn't call a crystalline sword
It looks more like some sort of alchemically create crystal more than metal - it even shatters like it.

And the DU's swords are described as Ancient Sith swords. Key word being 'ancient.' We've only got one picture of the Underlord and none of him in combat.
And I suppose it's impossible that there could be more than one kind of 'ancient' Sith sword. Seriously, the DU's sword, and the weapons of Sadow and Kressh. Not at all the same thing.

My point being, that the idea that they weigh hundreds of pounds is faulty at best when I can't think of any two depictions of Sith Swords that resemble the other.
Hundreds of pounds? Hardly. I can see them being extraordinarily heavy compared to later melee weapons, but triple-digits is ludicrous.

At one point, Luke lifts up an ancient Sith sword to inspect it.
You just said that. But you didn't provide a source or scan, which is what I'm asking for. Not that it matters, because it likely wasn't one resembling those in GAotS.

And Tavion's sword was Marka Ragnos's.
Yes, and it also slipped out of his scepter, which if you hadn't noticed isn't very thick.

It's very unlikely that every ancient sith used the exact same heavy sword..

Originally posted by Faunus
It looks more like some sort of alchemically create crystal more than metal - it even shatters like it.

I'm aware of the fact. I initially brought it up some time ago. It's also pretty much hard to get a proper idea as, again, they change with every single depiction-look at Freedon Nadd's swords that he gives to Satal...logically, he'd had gotten them from Naga..

And I suppose it's impossible that there could be more than one kind of 'ancient' Sith DU's sword, and the weapons of Sadow and Kressh. Not at all the same thing.

We have no idea if that's actually one of the swords the DU wields. When that picture was done, it wasn't even known to be the DU.
And again: None of the depictions of the Sith swords are the same thing:
-GAOTS: Crystalline
DLOTS and TFNU: Long, broadsword/claymore blades. Same depiction in the weapons and technology guides
KOTOR- pike weapons with blades on both ends
There're probably more, but I can't really recall them.


Hundreds of pounds? Hardly. I can see them being extraordinarily heavy compared to later melee weapons, but triple-digits is ludicrous.

Erm, I was the one saying just that...

You just said that. But you didn't provide a source or scan, which is what I'm asking for. Not that it matters, because it likely wasn't one resembling those in GAotS.

I'll have to check with the person who owns the source, but I believe it was in a 'SW Gamer' story or from one of the Hyperspace articles.
And also, wouldn't a solid sword like the one pictured in The guide to Weapons and Tech be logically heavier than the ones in GAOTS?

Yes, and it also slipped out of his scepter, which if you hadn't noticed isn't very thick.

Hardly that thick, no. Rather long and large. And Tavion lugs it about one handed, not compensating for extra weight when it's inside the scepter-and I doubt Marka Ragnos's personal weapon is a shoddy piece of craftsmanship.

Add to the fact that Tavion seems to be very fit and all, but hardly muscular or anything approaching superhuman.

Well, she's probably a Dathomiri, with emphasis on physical abilities, but strong enough to carry around a huge sith sword in a large scepter that Marka Ragnos wielded, one handed, with no strain if it's that heavy?

I'm sure with the whole alchemy detail, they took weight into account

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Considering I'm not remotely talking about the cartoon...

Sorry, I thought you were, my mistake.

Which issue of the Clone Wars Adventures comics did he do that thing your talking about in?

Don't have it on me, atm, but I think it's upwards of 5...

The incident I refer to specifically is mentioned in the NEC if that helps...under the Clone wars section

Naga and Exar PWnss!!!

I think the duo wins.