Originally posted by Schecter
waaa waaa waaaaaatoo bad they werent a bunch of white kids or you would find it funny.
w/e man.
If the situation was reversed i'd still be infuriated that some kids were friken facing life in prison for beating up a provocateur.
And it's messed up that that kid got beat up (and it's not funny). But c'mon on. Something clearly smells bad in this case, even you should see it.
Originally posted by Bat Dude
People at my school were wearing black for the whole Jena 6 thing... After learning what it was, I will now put my thoughts on it out there...I do not condone racism... No matter what happened, RACISM IS WRONG AND IS (SHOULD BE) A CRIME
However, I also do not condone assault... No matter what happened, ASSAULT IS A CRIME
As you can see, I do not take a side in this whole thing... Both sides are wrong in this situation... The white kids deserve to be expelled, but the black kids do also... Both black and white are wrong in this situation... Both hated, and both must answer for their deeds (Though I respect the African Americans more because they had a peaceful sit in)... To me, this isn't about "White Power" or "Black Power", this is about two groups doing morally wrong deeds... I don't know about you guys, but I think both groups deserve any punishment they got/get... And if either side went unpunished, THEN we have a problem...
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
w/e man.If the situation was reversed i'd still be infuriated that some kids were friken facing life in prison for beating up a provocateur.
And it's messed up that that kid got beat up (and it's not funny). But c'mon on. Something clearly smells bad in this case, even you should see it.
this case pisses me off plain and simple, just as it would piss me off if the race cards were reversed. just the same as i would feel if a black man was on video being arrested for no good reason and tasered while subdued. thats what makes me a better person than you.
Originally posted by Schecter
this case pisses me off plain and simple, just as it would piss me off if the race cards were reversed. just the same as i would feel if a black man was on video being arrested for no good reason and tasered while subdued. thats what makes me a better person than you.
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Didn't I just say if it were the other way around it'd madden me also.
And like i wouldn't get pissed if i saw injustice. And with that tasered kid, i wished that the outcome was different of course cause i believe they used unnecessary force and on the heels of violating the 1st amendment (the worst things you can do) but if your alluding to my saying I chuckled at that tasered student when he said "Don't tase me bro! ZAP! Ow ow ow!" then I'll let you know if he was anyone else i would've giggled about it too cause he was clearly asking for it and was overly dramatic about it. Not cause he was White.
Hell he probably got zapped cause he called the chick actually holding the taser "bro".
lol
All jokes aside your not the better person cause those same things would piss me off too.
So this is why all those people were obstructing traffic when I was just driving up the street a little while ago. Waving their signs and yelling and shouting.
They were annoying.
I had no idea Racism was THIS BAD. I knew it was still upon us, but to this extent???
An ALL WHITE TREE???
NOOSES?????
ALL WHITE JURY???
UNFAIR TRIAL??????
WHITE person only got simple BATTERY CHARGES?????
How rude.
Ignorance really is bliss.
Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Im in the "assault needs to be punished, but 80yrs?" camp.
Also that mentality around the trees/nooses...?
What was that really meant to achieve..?
It was always gonna end in tears.
Although I still get sick of cases where the alleged racism is really reached for to make a case, this looks more serious and if its gone down as reported, it stinks and I can see why it has caused a movement.. especially in a place globally known (rightly or wrongly) for its racism.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
w/e man.If the situation was reversed i'd still be infuriated that some kids were friken facing life in prison for beating up a provocateur.
And it's messed up that that kid got beat up (and it's not funny). But c'mon on. Something clearly smells bad in this case, even you should see it.
I agree, teen fights shouldn't result in a life sentence, but what if the teen was racist? (pls see the link b4 responding, as it sheds light on the perspective)...and the noose isn't cool ONLY b/c of the history....if there was witch burning in VA, and on Halloween, someone put out propane near the yard or homes or area of known witches, that'll mean something to them, and in Europe, a lot of ppl were hung or burned, it wasn't only witches, so, it could happen to ANY group. the noose was a bit of a joke to the ones who felt the history was over-with, I can believe that, but to the ones who are living in a segregated area, I can understand that they wouldn't take it as a joke. Did the guy deserve to be beat up? No. I think it was a revenge fight anyway (one kid was beat up by a white kid, and tension was building over the fact that the black kid lost, words were exchanged, a noose was placed by a tree...and the rest was totally crazy), I don't guess that the noose was directly related to the fight but the noose was an agitator based on both the history and the recently hot conflict.
Originally posted by miss_swann
I've never understood racial policies in America and when they try to explain it at school I think thank god I wasn't coloured in America in the 1920's. I REALLY don't understand why the colour of someones skin means ANYTHING?
I can try to explain it, but it may not make sense...
Remember, when you were 3? years old, you grouped all colors alike, and learned that just b/c you see a yellow crayon doesn't mean you can eat it like a yellow banana. And in the 1st? grade, you learn that there are differences in items, such as texture, character, statics and dynamics of an item (things move or stay the same, you learn it b4 the 1st grade, that's just arbitrary)..
you basically already learned to group things that are similar by function, group fruits together and crayons together, but you would never continue to place a yellow crayon where you place your banana simply b/c they have the same color...
the reason why there is strong racism by COLOR is b/c of this really basic mentality that color=function, which is back to the 3 year old or 1st grade idea of separating by color.... but culture has a strong relationship with function, and culture is DYNAMIC (in some cases) and in not necessarily related to the individual within the color, b/c color doesn't equal function, culture equals function. And even if you or I dislike a culture, it doesn't make it static, cultures can and do change in time.
that's the best i can do (i don't do "name calling", etc.)
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I agree, teen fights shouldn't result in a life sentence, but what if the teen was racist? (pls see the link b4 responding, as it sheds light on the perspective)...and the noose isn't cool ONLY b/c of the history....if there was witch burning in VA, and on Halloween, someone put out propane near the yard or homes or area of known witches, that'll mean something to them, and in Europe, a lot of ppl were hung or burned, it wasn't only witches, so, it could happen to ANY group. the noose was a bit of a joke to the ones who felt the history was over-with, I can believe that, but to the ones who are living in a segregated area, I can understand that they wouldn't take it as a joke. Did the guy deserve to be beat up? No. I think it was a revenge fight anyway (one kid was beat up by a white kid, and tension was building over the fact that the black kid lost, words were exchanged, a noose was placed by a tree...and the rest was totally crazy), I don't guess that the noose was directly related to the fight but the noose was an agitator based on both the history and the recently hot conflict.
Where are you people getting this stuff?
Timeline:
Black kid asks admin if he can sit under the "White Tree"
Admin says "sit wherever you want."
Days latter nooses were hung.
Students were suspended by admin, only to have the suspention overturened by the school board.
Black students organised a sit-in under the "White Tree".
Black student jumped at an offcampus party.
(not permitted to file charges)
Two black youths chased by stire owner w/ shotgun.
The children disarm the man and are charged with theft of a fire arm.
The "victim" is walking in the hallway and says something "slick" to the young man that was beaten off campus.
The "victim" comeneced to get that ass whipped.
the fight is stopped, the boy is taken to the hospital and is released hours after his "Life threatening" ordeal and attends a "social function"
Days latter the DA shows up at a school funtion and tells the "everybody" that he can "Change their lives with a stroke of his pen."
Charges are filled against 6 African-American students.
It should be noted that it is an ODD coincidence that the 6 charged were also the so called leaders and most vocal at the sit in.
M. Bell has been in JAIL for a year now. And untill recently was facing a possible 22 years behind bars.
All 6 were charged with Attempted Murder.
It should also be noted that the Admin (the one that let him sit under the tree) was fired.
The Tree and stump were removed the town says they did it because it was a "lightning rod".
But, I know they did it because all them black folk were comming and they KNEW that their first stop was gonna be that tree.
No Justice
Don't sleep ❌
Damn. Why can't the south (on both sides) let go of the past. It sucks. Hard.
All this unessecary nonsense over skin color is retarded. Both sides lose big. Getting along would be so beneficial in so many ways. Financially, socially and they don't wanna do it. Dumb. No wonder the south has a reputation for being stupid.
Apperently, one of the boys charged, was already on a probation in regards to another account of battery on a separate occasion which according to federal prosecutor indicates that the punishment will be harsher.
The boy was convinced of four other batteries including the one which he was on probation for.
Federal prosecutor, apparently just said, that the hanging of the nooses and the battery are two separate incidents.
Obviously the charges are extreme which ties with failing of US justice system, which includes institutionalized racism.