wolverine vs deathstroke

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
srank, do you have the issue where Slade takes out Starfire one on one, no prep? She states (before being k.o'd by his staff) that Slade is one of the only people who can give her a fight and she doesn't have to hold back.

And I'm calling buuuulllssshhhiiitttt on the meta grenades not being part of his regular equipment. I can name 15 times he's used them.

New Teen Titans 10... or 11? It's around there right?

How many times have those grenades been powerful enough to take out Superboy though?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Reading that hurt my head.

I'm convinced you just have no idea what is an reasonable feat for Deathstroke. For some reason you think everything he has been shown to do must be with in the realm of what is capable of dispite the fact that every time he meets up with a street level hero they give him trouble. Deathstroke hitting the Flash is the same as Wolverine taking the nuke, it doesn't matter that it happened, its pure crap and any reasonable person would know this. You apparently also don't understand what PIS and CIS means... your just lost my friend

Two speedsters Wolverine has hit: Speed Demon and Northstar (I believe)

I'm out for the night. Merry Christmas

Actually Wolverine taking a nuke is quite different from DS hitting Flash. Since DS has held his own against other speedsters like Kid Flash. Starfire isn't slow either. Wolverine had never shown an ounce of what it would take to perform that feat before while DS did. DS had prep and used it wisely. His reaction time is ungodly and has been shown to be alot of times before so knowning what the Flash would do helps him alot.

This is where DS gets the credibilty to do these things. He has been stated as having great reaction time and the brain power and skill SKILL to do it. Wolverine has the weapons and is supposed to have the skill but he doesn't have the brain power or reaction time to pull them off.

Like you said his best speed feat is possibly out racing a car which you don't even know how fast it was going compared to guy that hit lightspeeders and other extremely fast people.

Then you want to cry PIS CIS then even after I say why they are at least valid then you want to question me as an intellegent person when all I have done is give facts. 😉 Which is what debating is I give facts then you try to give better facts.

Oh by the way there is a reason why I haven't mentioned GL yet and the reason is because that didn't make sense as even though Ds could probably move fast enough to get the first move in like he did the fact GL tried to throw a punch is off key but my friend that is the only one.

Oh by the way maybe your head hurts because your feeble mind can't handle trying to read so much. 😈

Originally posted by newjak86
Well let me tell you something DS has reasons and fairly decent compared to other people backing his feats and most often he really doesn't have problems with street level guys. Just ask Batman or Nightwing will ya I'm sure they can attest to this.
Actually Wolverine taking a nuke is quite different from DS hitting Flash. Since DS has held his own against other speedsters like Kid Flash. Starfire isn't slow either. Wolverine had never shown an ounce of what it would take to perform that feat before while DS did. DS had prep and used it wisely. His reaction time is ungodly and has been shown to be alot of times before so knowning what the Flash would do helps him alot.
This is where DS gets the credibilty to do these things. He has been stated as having great reaction time and the brain power and skill SKILL to do it. Wolverine has the weapons and is supposed to have the skill but he doesn't have the brain power or reaction time to pull them off.
Like you said his best speed feat is possibly out racing a car which you don't even know how fast it was going compared to guy that hit lightspeeders and other extremely fast people.
Then you want to cry PIS CIS then even after I say why they are at least valid then you want to question me as an intellegent person when all I have done is give facts. 😉 Which is what debating is I give facts then you try to give better facts.
Oh by the way there is a reason why I haven't mentioned GL yet and the reason is because that didn't make sense as even though Ds could probably move fast enough to get the first move in like he did the fact GL tried to throw a punch is off key but my friend that is the only one.
Oh by the way maybe your head hurts because your feeble mind can't handle trying to read so much. 😈

Can you please put an extra line between each paragraph, its kind of a chore to read it this way.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Can you please put an extra line between each paragraph, its kind of a chore to read it this way.

Originally posted by newjak86
I'm trying to improve your reading skills plus this is how I throw people for loop in debates. 😖hifty:

You sly bastard!

Hey Arabain Knight, the fight with between Slade and Starfire did Slade sniper her out of the air to start the fight? I am trying to remember what happened but I think I have mix two different fights into one...

It's issue 10, right before he kills changling in the cave. Which was cool btw.
If you don't think fighting starfire like he did, her saying she didn't hold back and him winning and leaving the scene is impressive, then I don't have a clue wtf you need to see Slade>Wolverine.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
It's issue 10, right before he kills changling in the cave. Which was cool btw.
If you don't think fighting starfire like he did, her saying she didn't hold back and him winning and leaving the scene is impressive, then I don't have a clue wtf you need to see Slade>Wolverine.

If I recall correctly didn't just hold his own against her? She blasted through his armor but didn't ko him and he threw a grenade into a crowd of people and made his get away... I think

He held his own and won. Defeat was appearant and she admitted going all out. His time was up (kinda like when he was about to kill Batman) and he had to get going. He blew up a house so she wouldn't follow.

It was very, very impressive imo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For some reason you think everything he has been shown to do must be with in the realm of what is capable of despite the fact that every time he meets up with a street level hero they give him trouble.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deathstroke hitting the Flash is the same as Wolverine taking the nuke, it doesn't matter that it happened, its pure crap and any reasonable person would know this.
You apparently also don't understand what PIS and CIS means... your just lost my friend

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Two speedsters Wolverine has hit: Speed Demon and Northstar (I believe)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Slade hitting Flash is even more crap

Wolverine hitting Quicksilver/Northstar/Namor/Speed Demon/Spider-Man is not crap because?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade one win against Batman he leaves holding his shoulder an limping, Batman feed it to him. It's pretty clear in there two fights that Batman is a far better fighter.

No reasonable person who has even an once of information on Slade or any DC that was present in Identity Crisis would ever bring that feat up. There is so much PIS and CIS that it makes SP vs FL look reasonable. It is possible the single most ridicules thing to ever happen in a comic. I'm sorry but the fact that you bring it up and think it is a reasonable showing for DS leads me to think you are a moron.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wolverine hitting Quicksilver/Northstar/Namor/Speed Demon/Spider-Man is not crap because?

Originally posted by Juntai
Some may consider Slade hitting Flash as crap, but the fact is, he's done it so many times in his fights with the JLA and Titans, I'm not sure if it qualifies as PIS/CIS anymore.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wolverine hitting Quicksilver/Northstar/Namor/Speed Demon/Spider-Man is not crap because?

I never said it wasn't. He wan't to know what speedsters Wolverine has hit so I told him. Wolverine hitting Speed Demon or Northstar is crap... hitting Namor or Spider-man isn't.

Why hitting Namor is not crap?

He's moved his hands fast enough to make a sculpture in less then second...grabbed an propeller that rotates with very fast speeds...outspeeded WWII airplanes...dodged lasers while being near to fainting...grabbed missiles from air...moved so fast that Daredevil was not able to do anything...jumped fast enough to reach and outspeed meteors...moves his hands and legs fast enough to swim with Mach speeds...dodges machine gun fire from Warmachine with ease...

Do I need to list more?

Logically, Wolverine should not be able to lay a hand on him. Logically, Slade should not be able to lay a hand on Flash.

They both do.

But one is PIS and other is not?

Biased.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Can you please put an extra line between each paragraph, its kind of a chore to read it this way.

shut up how retarded

Originally posted by soleran30
shut up how retarded

Wolverine fighting Hulk and living isn't PIS, it's CIS. Hulk is dumb, anyone can stalemate the guy by out thinking him. BEATING Hulk is PIS. Wolverine, by his bio and powerset is incapable of it.

Slade's powerset, super human: strength/speed/senses/agility/INTELLIGENCE plus his insane arsenal of weapons, allows even his wildest feats to seem reasonable.

If you had superhuman everything, massive firepower AND a brain that was capable of thinking/acting like a computer, you could be a Titan's main villain.

If you have slightly above peak human strength/speed and good healing with six knives.....you aren't too dangerous.

In a comic written by a non-biased writer with these two fighting, Slade would ****ing humiliate Wolverine.

Logan: -rushes- Raaah!! -he's blastes 20 feet- -gets up- RAAAH!! -blasted 20 feet- -Gets up...slower- Raaah!! -blastes 20 feet- -starts to get up...gets blown up by a grenade-

Slade: What the hell was that about?

Like someone said, Wolverine is a brick killer, but against people who are as skilled as him plus stronger and smarter with weapons that outclass his own, he can't hold a candle.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Wolverine fighting Hulk and living isn't PIS, it's CIS. Hulk is dumb, anyone can stalemate the guy by out thinking him. BEATING Hulk is PIS. Wolverine, by his bio and powerset is incapable of it.

Slade's powerset, super human: strength/speed/senses/agility/INTELLIGENCE plus his insane arsenal of weapons, allows even his wildest feats to seem reasonable.

If you had superhuman everything, massive firepower AND a brain that was capable of thinking/acting like a computer, you could be a Titan's main villain.

If you have slightly above peak human strength/speed and good healing with six knives.....you aren't too dangerous.

In a comic written by a non-biased writer with these two fighting, Slade would ****ing humiliate Wolverine.

Logan: -rushes- Raaah!! -he's blastes 20 feet- -gets up- RAAAH!! -blasted 20 feet- -Gets up...slower- Raaah!! -blastes 20 feet- -starts to get up...gets blown up by a grenade-

Slade: What the hell was that about?

Like someone said, Wolverine is a brick killer, but against people who are as skilled as him plus stronger and smarter with weapons that outclass his own, he can't hold a candle.

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