What is the true purpose of a career or other institutions?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
they will try to F**** you up, if they can't control how you think, they will try to F*** YOU UP...and use guilt or whatever means for the ones they have in control already, and it's not only about race, they can do the same thing to you about religion too, or sex, and if they are in the seat of power and they have others in the palm of their hands, what's going to happen to you and your life?

debt causes this country to go downward, it really does. people who are into these games do not give a darn about the overall system of this country, they are about CONTROLLING YOU AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR MIND and your income, until you obey them.

i had a lady tell me, after i told her "it's up to you to do what you wish and enjoy" she stated, do you think whites will allow you to do that? and i got really tired of talking to her and seemed like the more i did, the more the inverted-system came into play, as i stated i like to dress well, she stated don't you think whites will try to mess you over out of jealousy? CONTROL, CONTROL, CONTROL, CONTORL, CONTROL, and if they can't control you about race, religion, sex, etc., you are OUTTA THERE. that's why there are so many millions of degreed people without work and jobs that are like revolving doors, as people realize the game and exit fast, and jobs that can't fill the spot to get the work done...control, control, control, control, and if they are in management, you can forget it.

a person told me a long time ago that the idea of "liberalism" is taught in college and makes a person "change", and that the work force is such that it will make you re-think the entire idealism of liberty. and what's the response back after all that i've explained "that's exactly the plan". make you hate liberty so that you won't enjoy it b/c in liberty, you respect the mindset of others, even if you have to ignore them, but that same person can end up doing things that test every aspect of what it means to be an American, and it's founded on self-ownership, liberity.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
a person told me a long time ago that the idea of "liberalism" is taught in college and makes a person "change", and that the work force is such that it will make you re-think the entire idealism of liberty. and what's the response back after all that i've explained "that's exactly the plan". make you hate liberty so that you won't enjoy it b/c in liberty, you respect the mindset of others, even if you have to ignore them, but that same person can end up doing things that test every aspect of what it means to be an American, and it's founded on self-ownership, liberity.

(edited-I was just gettin frustrated with czarina again.)

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
a person told me a long time ago that the idea of "liberalism" is taught in college and makes a person "change", and that the work force is such that it will make you re-think the entire idealism of liberty. and what's the response back after all that i've explained "that's exactly the plan". make you hate liberty so that you won't enjoy it b/c in liberty, you respect the mindset of others, even if you have to ignore them, but that same person can end up doing things that test every aspect of what it means to be an American, and it's founded on self-ownership, liberity.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
a person told me a long time ago that the idea of "liberalism" is taught in college and makes a person "change", and that the work force is such that it will make you rethink the entire idealism of liberty. and what's the response back after all that i've explained "that's exactly the plan". make you hate liberty so that you won't enjoy it b/c in liberty, you respect the mindset of others, even if you have to ignore them, but that same person can end up doing things that test every aspect of what it means to be an American, and it's founded on self-ownership, liberity.

A person told me a long time ago that he was in danger of being eaten alive by carnivorous roses. But as far as I knew he had no reason to think that other then watching Day of the Triffids while high.

I work, and as far as I go nothing that has happened to make me rethink the entire idealism of liberty. Is the person who told you this some kind of researcher who knows what he was talking about or is it just a "you know, I think the idea of liberalism is taught in college and makes a person change. Etc."

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can I just shock you?

I like potential. Despite what I just said earlier. At any time I have up to five lots of potential in my house.

-AC

I like wine.

Did race come into this thread at any point?

Just curious.

(Not curious enough to look).

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
are you talking to your imaginary friend?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
A person told me a long time ago that he was in danger of being eaten alive by carnivorous roses. But as far as I knew he had no reason to think that other then watching Day of the Triffids while high.

I work, and as far as I go nothing that has happened to make me rethink the entire idealism of liberty. Is the person who told you this some kind of researcher who knows what he was talking about or is it just a "you know, I think the idea of liberalism is taught in college and makes a person change. Etc."

It was her observation, but she's not alone in that observation.

You may have respectful employees, not saying those don't exist.

Another poster asked why are there so many people with degrees without income or jobs, and I told her my experience.

The issue of race came up b/c that was a social battle going on at work, so much so that one black lady told me that I need to stay in my place, had no idea what she meant, but it was total group think, meaning, "we" want to enforce "x" social behavior.

If you don't have to work for a living THANK GOD.

And yes, there are plenty of jobs that do not get filed and the company's mission is retarded b/c of what some co-workers do to each other, and if it's a revolving door, that means people start to realize something and they exit fast, but the work is now backlogged, isn't it? So what's more important, the work getting done or social reform?

LIBERTY, your mind doesn't belong to me b/c I do not own the rights of your mind, such as who to associate with, association is a constituational right, and when she told me "stay in your place" she was violating that.

Liberty

I keep showing this, but it's worth it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVlfTIOwaM

And this is the law, no one has the right to take your liberty, but some will TRY to do this at your job, esp. with respect to SOCIAL issues.

you forget that companies are private institutions and allowed to do as they wish

if it is you who have the problem with them, than it was you who needed to find other emplyment.

If you were so dissatisfied with your job and there was so much strife, I can only think the employer was justified in your dismissal. From my limited interactions with you, I can honestly say you would not increase my productivity or enjoyment at work.

Originally posted by inimalist
you forget that companies are private institutions and allowed to do as they wish

if it is you who have the problem with them, than it was you who needed to find other emplyment.

If you were so dissatisfied with your job and there was so much strife, I can only think the employer was justified in your dismissal. From my limited interactions with you, I can honestly say you would not increase my productivity or enjoyment at work.

you are assuming it was a dismissal. and this is about answering the question, why are so many degreed people without work, companies/institutions with revolving doors yet complain of backlogged work, etc.

and regarding civil rights (your liberty), no one has the right to violate that.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
you are assuming it was a dismissal. and this is about answering the question, why are so many degreed people without work, companies/institutions with revolving doors yet complain of backlogged work, etc.

many people with degrees are idiots who were pushed through the educational institution by wealthy parents. Consequently, people have no passion for their knowledge and are uninterested in devoting the time and effort required to be involved in their field.

Companies have a revolving door policy because there are many of these overly educated idiots out there who will never ammount to more than their desk job that they could have earned through some hard work just out of secondary school.

Why do they complain of backlogged work? Because they need to make money.

Oh, wait, I guess the answer you really are looking for is that many people are idiots. They will hire the cheapest and most expendable employees, work them until they burn out, then hire the next round. Very profitable.

Want to change it? start investing 😉

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
and regarding civil rights (your liberty), no one has the right to violate that.

of course they do

have you never been searched going into a club?

Originally posted by inimalist
many people with degrees are idiots who were pushed through the educational institution by wealthy parents. Consequently, people have no passion for their knowledge and are uninterested in devoting the time and effort required to be involved in their field.

Companies have a revolving door policy because there are many of these overly educated idiots out there who will never ammount to more than their desk job that they could have earned through some hard work just out of secondary school.

Why do they complain of backlogged work? Because they need to make money.

Oh, wait, I guess the answer you really are looking for is that many people are idiots. They will hire the cheapest and most expendable employees, work them until they burn out, then hire the next round. Very profitable.

Want to change it? start investing 😉

of course they do

have you never been searched going into a club?

I am not into categorizing people as "degreed" being smarter or stupid. But, if people are trained for a career and they obey what it takes to get that, but now, are seeing the "test" mode of social reform, which has nothing to do with the job...rather testing that person's liberty, your liberty is to associate with whom you want to, and to think of whatever you want to about yourself, and you aren't to own others and others do not own you, you don't steal from their account and vise versa, you don't murder them and they don't murder you, you don't try to dominate their mind and they don't try to dominate yours. Liberty.

And backlog has to do with employees dragging their butts, or causing others to do the same or harrassing the good workers so that they leave and can go back to the regular mode of shuffle.

I had one lady accuse me of giving other employees a hard time, I stated why? She said b/c I work hard, and that sets a standard that causes the next person to have to achieve my level of work, and they may or may not be able to do that, so, she stated I was cheating mankind by working too hard, if I worked less, and asked for raises, I would be setting the bar better.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Did race come into this thread at any point?

That's a rhetorical question but I looked anyway. It only took me about 2 seconds to browse the first Corrina essay post I came to.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I am not into categorizing people as "degreed" being smarter or stupid. But, if people are trained for a career and they obey what it takes to get that, but now, are seeing the "test" mode of social reform, which has nothing to do with the job.

I'd disagree. People end up in careers that they don't like, most work in not enjoyable. I don't think there is a "test", just that most people who have spent their life in schools at any level are really, REALLY detached from reality. Educational institutions, even at the university level, are glorified child care programs. I don't think this is the fault of the institutions, as every prof I speak to has nothing but negative things to say about the weigning work habbits of the students comming through their programs.

I've had many profs express to me how it is amazing that I am so passionate about what I am studying. However, from my point of view, I cannot imagine spending any money or time on something I didn't love this much.

Long story short, more people are getting an education than the jobs that require their expertise.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
And backlog has to do with employees dragging their butts, or causing others to do the same.

I had one lady accuse me of giving other employees a hard time, I stated why? She said b/c I work hard, and that sets a standar that causes the next person to have to achieve my level of work, and they may or may not be able to do that, so, she stated I was cheating mankind by working too hard, if I worked less, and asked for raises, I would be setting the bar better.

the lady you refer to is the worst scum of humanity

What you say seems all over the place a lot, but this is an excellent point. People are resentful of those who are willing to work hard and excell at what they want. If you quit, that is unfortunate, because it means you let them beat you, but i can totally understand.

Originally posted by inimalist

What you say seems all over the place a lot, but this is an excellent point. People are resentful of those who are willing to work hard and excell at what they want. If you quit, that is unfortunate, because it means you let them beat you, but i can totally understand.

it's not all over the place. i am very focused on what i am saying. and i agree, she is scum, but people like her can RUN or RULE an organization.

and yes, it was a cohersed resignation.

you edited this in so I figured I'd respond to it too

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
rather testing that person's liberty, your liberty is to associate with whom you want to, and to think of whatever you want to about yourself, and you aren't to own others and others do not own you, you don't steal from their account and vise versa, you don't murder them and they don't murder you, you don't try to dominate their mind and they don't try to dominate yours. Liberty.

I don't understand your argument...

this is really incongruent with everything else in your post...

"Liberty", as this abstract symbol you are talking of, does not exist. Freedom of association means that the government is not allowed to tell you who you can and cannot associate with (provided you are not a gang or whatever).

People stealing from your bank is a criminal offense and would never be defended as a part of "liberty". The government arrests those who commit this felony, the same with murder.

Freedom of though means that the government is not allowed to try and control your mind.

Please remember, rights and freedoms are only an arrangement between individual and state, not an agreement between individuals. You have freedom of speech in a public park, but not my house.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
it's not all over the place. i am very focused on what i am saying. and i agree, she is scum, but people like her can RUN or RULE an organization.

and yes, it was a cohersed resignation.

so, you see a connection between association rights, bank theft, a lady at your work, the problems of the educational institution, and backlog at differant companies?

what is this connection aside from their having been experienced by you? You may be errorously associating things that happened at a similar time as being related to eachother, which is a Gestalt principal of grouping, so you can hardly be faulted for it.

Originally posted by inimalist
you edited this in so I figured I'd respond to it too

I don't understand your argument...

You could sit under the tree of enlightenment for 70 years and experience "enlightenment" tenfold; still you wouldn't understand her argument.

Hint: There isn't one.

Originally posted by Robtard
You could sit under the tree of enlightenment for 70 years and experience "enlightenment" tenfold; still you wouldn't understand her argument.

Hint: There isn't one.

lol

I'm both at work and bored. 😉

killing time FTW

Originally posted by inimalist
so, you see a connection between association rights, bank theft, a lady at your work, the problems of the educational institution, and backlog at differant companies?

what is this connection aside from their having been experienced by you? You may be errorously associating things that happened at a similar time as being related to eachother, which is a Gestalt principal of grouping, so you can hardly be faulted for it.

the lady at the job was trying to play games of control, "stay in your place", that's against a person's civil rights.

yeah, i went thru someone taking money from my bank account around the same time of other threatsover the past 2 weeks. liberty is to protect your life, mind, and property, it's all connected as your self-ownership (watch the video, as i am not deviating from their words just for simplicity).

and i am asking about purpose of work, career, when it's really been about social reform according to who ever has the power to bully another person's liberty, and liberty does have to do with what you think about yourself, who you decide to associate with, etc.