WWH pays his dues

Originally posted by Kutulu
He didn't run off, Hulk slapped him away casually.

Juggernaut did stalemate Hulk for a bit though, I really wish the fight had continued longer.

Didn't catch the part where Hulk "slapped" him away. Was it so hard that Juggs couldn't come back or something??? I thought Juggs was running under his own power?? That whole scene seemed a little crappy to me.

I wished the fight had continued too but it wasn't enough of a fight for me to make a clear judgement on winner/loser/stalemate.

Not enough of a fight to judge how it would of went so... i leave it as a stalemate.

it wasnt that great of a fight hulk said he didnt have time to waste on him so he used jugs on strength against him to get rid of him for a few moments

i love it how hulk fans say Hulk was jobbed.... as if WWH was the pinicle of good writing.... Juggy seemed to have the edge in this fight but he definitly cares for his brother too much to kill the hulk at the expenense of Xaviers suffering...

sigh, a potential epic match just fizzled out into a tease.

what's clear is that Hulk doesn't waste time on irrelevant battles, he's so far removed from the old Savage Hulk days, he just casually dismisses him - with a pat on the back to aid his momentum - instead of engaging in a drawn out fight.

it's another of those fights that makes 'no sense' unless you accept that Hulk clearly reserves his rage and strength for the Illuminati alone. like how Thing managed to get a few hits in on Hulk, how Wolverine managed to hit Hulk, how some of the X-men hit him too... he really is quite impressive in his discipline and focus throughout the WWHulk arc so far.

this is a goal oriented hulk. This is just my personal opinion but i've always thought the hulk with all his incarnations was always incomplete that's y he could never access his strength properly except for when he's mad. I think this hulk is as close to a complete hulk as i've ever seen a balanced (for the most part) mind with his physical body

Originally posted by janus77
sigh, a potential epic match just fizzled out into a tease.

what's clear is that Hulk doesn't waste time on irrelevant battles, he's so far removed from the old Savage Hulk days, he just casually dismisses him - with a pat on the back to aid his momentum - instead of engaging in a drawn out fight.

it's another of those fights that makes 'no sense' unless you accept that Hulk clearly reserves his rage and strength for the Illuminati alone. like how Thing managed to get a few hits in on Hulk, how Wolverine managed to hit Hulk, how some of the X-men hit him too... he really is quite impressive in his discipline and focus throughout the WWHulk arc so far.

Janus... u and that guy who said Hulk "causually slapped the juggernaut away" should probably take another look. Juggy shoves the Hulk off him (hence the hulks expresion and possition of arching backwards. then runs off with the Hulk with his eyes closed shielding his face...) then again im sure you knew that...

I DO find myself agreeing with you for the first time in some time that it was a waste of a battle and had the potential to be an massive fight, esspeically after this panel:

Originally posted by janus77
sigh, a potential epic match just fizzled out into a tease.

what's clear is that Hulk doesn't waste time on irrelevant battles, he's so far removed from the old Savage Hulk days, he just casually dismisses him - with a pat on the back to aid his momentum - instead of engaging in a drawn out fight.

it's another of those fights that makes 'no sense' unless you accept that Hulk clearly reserves his rage and strength for the Illuminati alone. like how Thing managed to get a few hits in on Hulk, how Wolverine managed to hit Hulk, how some of the X-men hit him too... he really is quite impressive in his discipline and focus throughout the WWHulk arc so far.

Janus... u and that guy who said Hulk "causually slapped the juggernaut away" should probably take another look. Juggy shoves the Hulk off him (hence the hulks expresion and possition of arching backwards. then runs off with the Hulk with his eyes closed shielding his face...) then again im sure you knew that...

I DO find myself agreeing with you for the first time in some time that it was a waste of a battle and had the potential to be an massive fight, esspeically after this panel:

... could have been so awsome...

looks like he suckered the juggernaut to me. he first stopped him, when he barged into him, then let that momentum build up, then drew back and on the turn gave him a push - hence the little 'dash' lines trailing the open palm of Hulk's left hand, basically like a 'judo move' if you will.

how else do you explain the juggernaut not being able to stop himself and instead going head-first through a wall and into the water?

also, you'll note the absolute lack of surprise in the Hulk's commentary throughout the scene, he was intending to bfr the juggernaut, because - as he admits - he hasn't got all day.

Im so glad that juggernaut is back, the truly unstoppable juggernaut. I havent been keeping up with hulk much but from what im seeing wwh seems to be pretty much unbeatable (even though I think that juggernaut could win) and Im going to start buying the comics.

They are pretty much going to have him beating everyone and I do think that he has the power to do so.

Damn, hes bad from all of the showings that i have been seeing.

Originally posted by janus77
looks like he suckered the juggernaut to me. he first stopped him, when he barged into him, then let that momentum build up, then drew back and on the turn gave him a push - hence the little 'dash' lines trailing the open palm of Hulk's left hand, basically like a 'judo move' if you will.

how else do you explain the juggernaut not being able to stop himself and instead going head-first through a wall and into the water?

also, you'll note the absolute lack of surprise in the Hulk's commentary throughout the scene, he was intending to bfr the juggernaut, because - as he admits - he hasn't got all day.

1st- i didnt see a push or a slap by the hulk.
2nd- i didnt see a sucker, due to charles interference.

Originally posted by carver9
1st- i didnt see a push or a slap by the hulk.
2nd- i didnt see a sucker, due to charles interference.

Look closely at this scan:
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wwhxmen3dcp0028do5.jpg

Juggernaut is using his pushing force against the Hulk. Hulk lets go, steps to the side, and look at his hand, it has the motion that he hit Juggernaut in the back to use his forward momentum to send him flying.

Adding to that, it looks like he didn't only sidestep it, it looks like he pushed or swung Juggernaut in the direction he was already going and kind of faceplanted into the ground with all that unanticipated speed.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Adding to that, it looks like he didn't only sidestep it, it looks like he pushed or swung Juggernaut in the direction he was already going and kind of faceplanted into the ground with all that unanticipated speed.

A common martial arts / fighting technique. Heck I remember my older brother doing that to me when I was 9 and faceplanting me into the lawn.

I don't see how sending the Juggernaut in a direction is the same as beating him. Juggernaut has a stronger healing factor than the Hulk (Hulk spent a longer time healing his eyes than juggs) and Juggernaut CAN NOT be hurt physically. Hulk can try and push him as much as he wants to, won't do anything.

lol,
Juggernaut was hurt plenty by War Hulk and as this wasn't a fight of any consequence to Hulk he really didn't bother doing anything more than simply removing juggernaut from the battlefield.

remember how juggernaut was "unstoppable"? that didn't last did it?
juggernaut would lose to War Hulk to a really focused Savage Hulk and definitely to WW Hulk. it's just a question of time before the inevitable overpowering strength of The Hulk does the job.

Originally posted by janus77
lol,
Juggernaut was hurt plenty by War Hulk and as this wasn't a fight of any consequence to Hulk he really didn't bother doing anything more than simply removing juggernaut from the battlefield.

remember how juggernaut was "unstoppable"? that didn't last did it?
juggernaut would lose to War Hulk to a really focused Savage Hulk and definitely to WW Hulk. it's just a question of time before the inevitable overpowering strength of The Hulk does the job.

Obviously you fail to recognize that War Hulk arc was just PIS, pure and simple.

At least the writer in this case was smart enough to realize Hulk couldn't do anything to hurt Cain, so he used a form of intelligent BFR to get rid of him. He had to do it, he knew if he drew it out longer he would be at a disadvantage. Period.

You Hulk fangirls just can't accept it.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Obviously you fail to recognize that War Hulk arc was just PIS, pure and simple.

At least the writer in this case was smart enough to realize Hulk couldn't do anything to hurt Cain, so he used a form of intelligent BFR to get rid of him. He had to do it, he knew if he drew it out longer he would be at a disadvantage. Period.

You Hulk fangirls just can't accept it.

Originally posted by janus77
lol,
Juggernaut was hurt plenty by War Hulk and as this wasn't a fight of any consequence to Hulk he really didn't bother doing anything more than simply removing juggernaut from the battlefield.

remember how juggernaut was "unstoppable"? that didn't last did it?
juggernaut would lose to War Hulk to a really focused Savage Hulk and definitely to WW Hulk. it's just a question of time before the inevitable overpowering strength of The Hulk does the job.

War Hulk has heavily amplified strength and durability as well as celestial weapons. That doesn't matter though, since all War Hulk did was HOLD DOWN the Juggernaut before he was able to move. Since Juggernaut is actually able to raise his forcefield at will and extend it, that isn't a very viable tactic and wouldn't work more than a couple of second.

Hence why Hulk has no way of beating Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
But oh brother, wait untilt WWH 4 comes out ❌

Strange smashy - at least I hope for the case or everyone's sanity