Mario v.s. Link

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Again...blow someone. To the moon. In no time.

And again, submarines and tanks.

It's in the sky.

And it looks like the sun.

Why isn't it the Sun?

Stated in SMB1 Manual that all those clouds and boxes and stuff with faces on them? Bowser turned the citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom into those.

Liquid Snake would be killed before the fight even started. He's hard to kill but NOTHING he could do would even make Bowser blink.

And O RLY at the fire element thing...Bowser gets hurt if you drop him in lava in SMB1.

A cannon is not slow last I checked.

So, if you want to assume they're slow despite the fact they're not....go right ahead.

And yes, Mario stays fat. But he still excels in all those sports.

Oh and he chucks castles no sweat.

And runs up walls.

And in Mario Galaxy, isn't he jumping from planetoid to planetoid?

2. Wow, just wow. It's not as big as the sun, it can be killed by a friggin Koopa's shell, if it was killed, Mario would die anyway cause the planet would freeze. IT'S NOT THE SUN!

3. Oh right. Well, if I remember correctly, all of Bowser's magic needs a ritual or sumthin similar and takes some time to perform(like in New Super Mario Bros). He's shown no skill at using magic in fights that I can remember(inlike Ganon, teehee).

4. I even said Liquid had nuthin that puts him above Bowser(cept qualities as a villain). He still has resistance to fire, a normal human would be ash. Also, why is it he bathes in magma in Sunshine? Damn game series inconsistencies!

5. There is nothing AT ALL that says the things in Mario games are slow only because he is fast. He only chuck a castle in gameplay, if he was truly capable of it, he could easily beat Bowser, Smithy, or anything. Smithy, unlike Bowser, was a pretty good villain. And who gives a damn what sports Mario excells at?

Oh and HonkeyTonkMan, if you're gonna troll, don't post.

2. Wow, just wow. It's not as big as the sun, it can be killed by a friggin Koopa's shell, if it was killed, Mario would die anyway cause the planet would freeze. IT'S NOT THE SUN!

It doesn't look big because it's not supposed to...if it was that big, it would fill the screen too much.

And Mario doesn't operate on real life physics. Just becaus ehe killed the Sun doesn't mean jack. I was just looking at Mario Galaxy and there's a par twhere Mario can run right over the top of a blackhole on little blocks and stuff.

3. Oh right. Well, if I remember correctly, all of Bowser's magic needs a ritual or sumthin similar and takes some time to perform(like in New Super Mario Bros). He's shown no skill at using magic in fights that I can remember(inlike Ganon, teehee).

He uses the magic of the Stars in SM64 to amp himself in each fight.

5. There is nothing AT ALL that says the things in Mario games are slow only because he is fast. He only chuck a castle in gameplay, if he was truly capable of it, he could easily beat Bowser, Smithy, or anything. Smithy, unlike Bowser, was a pretty good villain. And who gives a damn what sports Mario excells at?

No. He throws the castles in cutscenes after he completes the castles.

Bowser would beat Heihachi aswell.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
It doesn't look big because it's not supposed to...if it was that big, it would fill the screen too much.

And Mario doesn't operate on real life physics. Just becaus ehe killed the Sun doesn't mean jack. I was just looking at Mario Galaxy and there's a par twhere Mario can run right over the top of a blackhole on little blocks and stuff.

He uses the magic of the Stars in SM64 to amp himself in each fight.

No. He throws the castles in cutscenes after he completes the castles.

2. That's pretty much what I'm saying, he uses outside sources, he can't do real magic on his own.

3. You're right, don't know what I was thinking, but that still doesn't explain why those instances are the only time he uses that monster strength.(those castle btw are not that big when he throws them).

1. So you admit you overhyped the Sun feat. Bowser did not control an actual Star, he controlled that little dinky ball of fire.

No. I was pointing out how your "it's not the sun because it's not that big" BS doesn't work. Mario physics aren't real physics.

3. You're right, don't know what I was thinking, but that still doesn't explain why those instances are the only time he uses that monster strength.(those castle btw are not that big when he throws them).

I know that and it's obviously the game engine. We do see the castles are quite a bit bigger than Mario when you go inside them...hell, the just eh door is larger than him. And when we play through them, it's obviously they're not small.

Besides that, he effortlessly tosses Bowser and it is Mario's habit to destroy giant stone blocks.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
No. I was pointing out how your "it's not the sun because it's not that big" BS doesn't work. Mario physics aren't real physics.

I know that and it's obviously the game engine. We do see the castles are quite a bit bigger than Mario when you go inside them...hell, the just eh door is larger than him. And when we play through them, it's obviously they're not small.

Besides that, he effortlessly tosses Bowser and it is Mario's habit to destroy giant stone blocks.

2.I know Mario has superhuman strength, but he is not class 100, which is what it would take to toss a castle.

Prove he isn't Class 100. He DID toss the castle and we do know the castle is rather larger than Mario.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Prove he isn't Class 100. He DID toss the castle and we do know the castle is rather larger than Mario.

He's beaten Bowser several times now. Bowser with magic stars and flying cars and all sorts of things.

Before you guys continue, do not start flaming each other.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Because he has NEVER shown strength like that any other time in ANY other videogame or ANY scene. If he is that strong, he would have easily crushed Bowser. If he was that strong, he could easily SOLO Smithy. He's not that strong, period.

Alright let's see in a cutscene for Super Mario World we see Mario with his bare hands turn a castle into rubble. Mario also Mario throws a castle away, throws Bowser around like a doll, throws the King Bob-omb around like a toy, and even shows to be capable of overpowering a Chain Chomp.

Link has nothing on Mario. Nothing Link has done can even remotely close to what Mario has accomplished.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Alright let's see in a cutscene for Super Mario World we see Mario with his bare hands turn a castle into rubble. Mario also Mario throws a castle away, throws Bowser around like a doll, throws the King Bob-omb around like a toy, and even shows to be capable of overpowering a Chain Chomp.

Link has nothing on Mario. Nothing Link has done can even remotely close to what Mario has accomplished.

BS!!
all his feats are feats, no matter whether he did them one one game or 20
SMW is cannon, therefore, his feats are cannon
no amount of "thats not legit cuz its only from one game blah blah blah" can change the facts..

Originally posted by MadMel
BS!!
all his feats are feats, no matter whether he did them one one game or 20
SMW is cannon, therefore, his feats are cannon
no amount of "thats not legit cuz its only from one game blah blah blah" can change the facts..

why can spiderman lift a train but not knock doc ocks head off??
unsloved mystery, but it still counts 😬

Originally posted by MadMel
why can spiderman lift a train but not knock doc ocks head off??
unsloved mystery, but it still counts 😬

no, in the comics he lifted a single train carriage
besides, i could say the same about mario, as he doesnt want to kill his enemies either..

It's not legit because if he is able to lift a castle, why can he barely lift King Bob Omb and Bowser?

Because he's pulling his punches?:

🙂

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Actually, I know why. He pulls his punches when fighting nonsuperhuman peoples. Unless of course you mean the movie, in that he didn't stop a train with pure strength, he used many thick ropes of spiderweb(which is stronger than steel) to stop it, he only used his arms to hold onto the web, and was knocked out after stopping the train.

SMW is canon and everything in that game is canon. And still Mario building momentum to throw Bowser is still more than Link has done. Bowser still weighs like a ton or two.

How do you know that? Where does it mention Bowser’s weight? Or have you started guessing and assuming again? At any rate, that means that Mario must weigh even more considering he can crush him with a bum drop. Now that makes for one fat–ass plumber!