Originally posted by Soljer
Adamantium Beta, supposedly, alleviated Wolverine of 'Adamantium Poisoning.'
Also if the villains said it that really not a recontt.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
House of M wolverine is no cannon. Not to mention hand books are crap. On pannel evidence has stated other wise.
Should have made clearer, at the end of House of M during the whole no more mutants wave when the world was brought back to normal. The X-Men were all worried as they thought if Wolverine had his healing factor shut off he would have died. Wolverine wakes up on the grass and says "he remembers everything"
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Should have made clearer, at the end of House of M during the whole no more mutants wave when the world was brought back to normal. The X-Men were all worried as they thought if Wolverine had his healing factor shut off he would have died. Wolverine wakes up on the grass and says "he remembers everything"
well ya they don't know that apoc changed all that.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
In all honesty, the craptacular House of M properly retconned that like they did with Sabretooth's adamantium.
not the same thing actaully. because sabetoothw as shown not to have adamatium.
in Logan case some one goes "Go to Logan the poison could kill him" Now how would they even know it was changed? they would not.
Logan also never told them what apoc did.
so really what was said means nothing since none of them enw all that was changed by apoc.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
not the same thing actaully. because sabetoothw as shown not to have adamatium.in Logan case some one goes "Go to Logan the poison could kill him" Now how would they even know it was changed? they would not.
Logan also never told them what apoc did.
so really what was said means nothing since none of them enw all that was changed by apoc.
Actually Wanda has rewritten people's historys and brought people back from the dead, manipulated the omniverse (believe she did that), etc. I wouldn't put it past Wanda at all, espeically since the end of House of M and the handbooks go with the adamantium poisioning.
Do I like it? No, but seems the route Marvel is going especially with this new X-Men issue going with it as well
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually Wanda has rewritten people's historys and brought people back from the dead, manipulated the omniverse (believe she did that), etc. I wouldn't put it past Wanda at all, espeically since the end of House of M and the handbooks go with the adamantium poisioning.Do I like it? No, but seems the route Marvel is going especially with this new X-Men issue going with it as well
again both people group of people who said it have no idea what apoc did so there no reason tot ake thee words for it at all. If logan ahd said it, that be different.
Also hand books are crap and Logan has not been in one since
Originally posted by Battlehammer
again both people group of people who said it have no idea what apoc did so there no reason tot ake thee words for it at all. If logan ahd said it, that be different.Also hand books are crap and Logan has not been in one since
Maybe we should wait till tommorow for this time come out? We won't get answers to what happens to him though till next month.
Logan has not been in one since?
contrary to popular or perhaps wishful thinkiing House of M is canon otherwise:
-there wouldnt have been a 98% reduction in the mutant population
-no "i remember everything"
-no Layla miller
-no......everybody and thier grandmother, SHIELD and x-factor included scrambling to find out what House of M was
-no hawkeye coming back to life
-no Doc strange bringing beast on a vision quest to show how Wanda really f ****ed shit up
-not to mention that otherworld lady, proctector of the omniverse going into elaborate speeches about how the branes of causility in 616 was f ****ed up
-no exiles super, powerful super advanced, crystal palace registering the utter f ****ed-up-tivity of 616 when they sent beak home.....
ummm did i leave anything out? 😕
Originally posted by manjaroCertain parts are, other's are not. House of M is still an alternate reality from 616, so for example Synch dying the way he did in HoM is not canon to the character, nor any details to that level.
contrary to popular or perhaps wishful thinkiing House of M [B]is canon otherwise:-there wouldnt have been a 98% reduction in the mutant population
-no "i remember everything"
-no Layla miller
-no......everybody and thier grandmother, SHIELD and x-factor included scrambling to find out what House of M was
-no hawkeye coming back to life
-no Doc strange bringing beast on a vision quest to show how Wanda really f ****ed shit up
-not to mention that otherworld lady, proctector of the omniverse going into elaborate speeches about how the branes of causility in 616 was f ****ed up
-no exiles super, powerful super advanced, crystal palace registering the utter f ****ed-up-tivity of 616 when they sent beak home.....ummm did i leave anything out? 😕 [/B]
Originally posted by manjaro
contrary to popular or perhaps wishful thinkiing House of M [B]is canon otherwise:-there wouldnt have been a 98% reduction in the mutant population
-no "i remember everything"
-no Layla miller
-no......everybody and thier grandmother, SHIELD and x-factor included scrambling to find out what House of M was
-no hawkeye coming back to life
-no Doc strange bringing beast on a vision quest to show how Wanda really f ****ed shit up
-not to mention that otherworld lady, proctector of the omniverse going into elaborate speeches about how the branes of causility in 616 was f ****ed up
-no exiles super, powerful super advanced, crystal palace registering the utter f ****ed-up-tivity of 616 when they sent beak home.....ummm did i leave anything out? 😕 [/B]
some of it is msot of it not.
for instance house of M wolverine run is not cannon. They were all false memories.
that would be utterly insane to accept. it was a cross company event that obviously will have lasting repercussions for years to come, ergo it was canon, you cant accept some aspects and disregard others cuase it suits us. That is...until 15 to 20 years from now when writers decide to retcon and we all find out that it was all a dream in some autistic boy's head<--(obscure pop culture reference most of you are too young to get)or the wathcer showing us another alternate reality and the whole deal was just a years long what if?
Originally posted by manjaro
that would be utterly insane to accept. it was a cross company event that obviously will have lasting repercussions for years to come, ergo it was canon, you cant accept some aspects and disregard others cuase it suits us. That is...until 15 to 20 years from now when writers decide to retcon and we all find out that it was all a dream in some autistic boy's head<--(obscure pop culture reference most of you are too young to get)or the wathcer showing us another alternate reality and the whole deal was just a years long what if?
Listen to me.
The events that happen in house of M main story line are cannon. The events that take place in the present during the house of M are cannon.
The memories individuals have of there past lives in the house of M reality are not canon. If that were so Logan would be 50 years old instead of over 100.
understand? So no not all of house of M is cannon.