X-Men: Utopia

Originally posted by Battlehammer
understand? So no not all of house of M is cannon.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

The memories individuals have of there past lives in the house of M reality are not canon. If that were so Logan would be 50 years old instead of over 100.

understand? So no not all of house of M is cannon.

😄 heh heh of course i knew that the memories were false. and all actions taken during the event are false due to the reality warping, but it was an event that happened that people remeber happening after its done, thats my point. for a few years hence ppl have been writing of HoM completely as non canon. that the whole thing doesnt count thats what im trying to stress.

Technically speaking every marvel comic ever published is canon. They all happened, they just don't all happen on 616 Marvel Earth. HoM is canon in the same way that AoA is canon, sure it happened... but reality is was so skewed that historys and back stories of established characters were deraticly different from the 616 norm. AoA Hulk was killed by Deadpool shooting him once in the head... so you catch my drift?

So HoM is canon. The same way that Exiles is canon. It happened. Just has very little to do with 616.

Anybody have scans of the X-Men/Marauders battle? The X-Men should have been overpowered.

I've scanned X Men #205. PM me if you'd like the scans.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Anybody have scans of the X-Men/Marauders battle? The X-Men should have been overpowered.

they where linked up by emma which helped them out a lot. When the link was broken they got their asses kicked.

Is Gambit helping the X-men secretly? Thats the impression I got from the issue.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Is Gambit helping the X-men secretly? Thats the impression I got from the issue.

really? Becuases Logan stabbing him really did not give me that impression lol.

arrgghhh Marvel? why are u making me hate you right now? MC started off so well and now we hear that wolverine is gonna get adamantium poisoing? sooooooooo howcome bullseye didnt get when that japanese guy grafted it to his crippled spone... how come it has never seeped thru cyber's skin and killed him?

oh and those damn new xmen!!! why are u making me hate those kids too marvel?

I wanted Mr. Maniacal to punk Storm. 🙁

lol damn they did a number on wolverine .

Originally posted by manjaro
arrgghhh Marvel? why are u making me hate you right now? MC started off so well and now we hear that wolverine is gonna get adamantium poisoing? sooooooooo howcome bullseye didnt get when that japanese guy grafted it to his crippled spone... how come it has never seeped thru cyber's skin and killed him?

oh and those damn new xmen!!! why are u making me hate those kids too marvel?

cyber had a healing factor.

lol the adamatium poison was just the villains talking out there ass.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Anybody have scans of the X-Men/Marauders battle? The X-Men should have been overpowered.

Emma protected the X-Men by blocking Exodus, Sinister and Lady Mastermind from half way around the world without Cerebra 😖hifty:. Exodus got BFR'd (I saw that coming months ago). Her students in Washington DC are in trouble with the Reavers and she hears Pixies screams and locates them and learns that the Purifiers don't have the baby. She gets distracted from the fight and the Assault Team loses their Psi-Protection.
Sinister got his powers back and locks Emma out of their base. He telekinetically blasts Angel, Mind wipes Colossus. Storm tries to hold back the rest of the Marauders so that Wovlerine can escape, but they deal with her quickly(off panel) and emerge outside the base after Wolverine. Lady Mastermind psychically tricks Wolverine into thinking Angel is Scrambler and on contact Wolvey loses his healing factor. Wolveys about to be killed but Nightcrawler saves him gets shot by Scalphunter and then teleports them both to safety. Emma makes contact with Wolverine and learns who has the baby.
Scans of the fight are in the Storm and Emma Respect Threads.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
cyber had a healing factor.

lol the adamatium poison was just the villains talking out there ass.

Otherwise Bullseye should be dead.

No.

Bullseye doesn't have enough adamantium inside him to get adamantium poisoning, his bones aren't laced with it, they're reinforced with a few adamantium strands IIRC.

Mwuhahahha....

LMAO at that What If Issue about Vulcan and the M'Kraan Crystal.

Phoenix Crops get murdered in the WHR...the WHR exists out of reality so their deaths are canon. Sacred Cow looks like she's still alive though.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0711/30/marvelfirsts.htm

What would be required for me to read this, what else should I read before it?

Originally posted by B.A
What would be required for me to read this, what else should I read before it?

This is all you need, we're at Chapter 5. The One-Shot eases you into things if you have no idea what's going on in the X-Universe at the moment. It's written for new readers much easier to follow then those older X-overs.

* Chapter 1: X-Men: Messiah Complex one-shot
* Chapter 2: Uncanny X-Men #492
* Chapter 3: X-Factor #25
* Chapter 4: New X-Men #44
* Chapter 5: X-Men #205

* Chapter 6: Uncanny X-Men #493
* Chapter 7: X-Factor #26
* Chapter 8: New X-Men #45
* Chapter 9: X-Men #206
* Chapter 10: Uncanny X-Men #494
* Chapter 11: X-Factor #27
* Chapter 12: New X-Men #46
* Chapter 13: X-Men #207

What about things before that? Anything major?

Originally posted by B.A
What about things before that? Anything major?

There's a prologue in X-Men #204 but that's about it. Those 5 issues should be enough.