Originally posted by stormfront
well what do you expect her do yell "SNARL" and grow claws?
Honestly, do I give off a Wolverine loving vibe?
Originally posted by h1a8
The scan contradicts itself thus isn't valid. For the second picture shows that she wasn't higher than the clouds. And don't try to pull the ignore the good posts made, for I'm not that stupid. If she was in space (in which I proved she wasn't) then it is PIS (look it up). For she needed a space suit just to be protected in space before. If everything shown on panel is not PIS then there is no such thing as PIS. But we all know there is a such thing as PIS (because of its definition).Storm can't do anything to lasers. I don't care how much wind she summons.
And I failed to see it was Storm controlling the weather of the whole world in that scan. Please show me it was her.
And she can't be perfectly protected if she's giving demands (or even giving orders when she's ruling).
She must stop the winds just to even talk.I'm sorry, but I will never believe that a person who can be killed by a mere bullet, that doesn't have spider-sense, and that doesn't have faster than bullet reflexes can constantly prevent the government from killing them.
For they will get her sooner or later; you can bet on that.
actually the scan clearly shows no clouds and she is nowhere near the earths surface. the second pic also clearly shows that she brought the clouds up to her.
how do you know a laser will penetrate a pressure dome? tell me... i'll wait....................................................
who else controles weather like her? other than thor. and he cant do some of the things she can.
this was when mind controled reheal undid the blocks in her mind to access her powers, which went out of controle.
hahaha. you know nothing about storm. stop the winds to talk. what bull.
she doesnt have to do anything.
storm has had a wooden stake through her abdomine. and she has been shot twice before. look her up.
she was shot and left to die.... oh she's still very much alive.
Originally posted by stormfront
actually the scan clearly shows no clouds and she is nowhere near the earths surface. the second pic also clearly shows that she brought the clouds up to her.how do you know a laser will penetrate a pressure dome? tell me... i'll wait....................................................
who else controles weather like her? other than thor. and he cant do some of the things she can.
this was when mind controled reheal undid the blocks in her mind to access her powers, which went out of controle.hahaha. you know nothing about storm. stop the winds to talk. what bull.
she doesnt have to do anything.
storm has had a wooden stake through her abdomine. and she has been shot twice before. look her up.
she was shot and left to die.... oh she's still very much alive.
There is a such thing as PIS. If there wasn't then it wouldn't be in the forum rules now would it. Many here act like there is no such thing as PIS. They believe that if a feat happened in the comics (even only once) then it is not PIS. But PIS implies that it happened in the comic, but its just not valid here under forum rules. The first scan is still PIS (look it up). As she needed spacesuits in space before.
Laser beams can not be affected by any wind (no matter how strong) or anything storm can do. They are made photons (not matter). It seems your saying that she can blow light away or that light can't survive under certain air pressures. Ridiculous! Remember light can travel even in a vacuum. Pressure does nothing to it.
It doesn't matter is she can talk during her strong winds (which she can't for its impossible because the strong wind will drown out her voice; and if she lowers the wind to a point where her voice can be heard then bullets will easily get through to her) for its moot. She will either slip up and be shot or nuked, tire and be shot or nuked, or be killed instantly with a laser or other desvastating tactic after being scanned by radar or satelite. Take your pick.
Many humans have survived being impaled (even through the chest or head) and shot. They were just lucky. I hope you're not arguing that Storm is immune to being shot or stabbed. For if you are, then I think it's now time to stop debating with you.
Now if Storm wasn't humanly fragile against many physical things or she at least had superhuman reflexes combined with some type of precog then I would easily agree that she can possibly take over the world. But still it would be very hard for her because the world (especially the U.S.) are liars and very deceiving. They would make her think they are complying and then whammo she's slips up and dies. Precog and super reflexes or superhuman durability are essiential for her here.
Originally posted by What If...
I'm not exactly saying that Storm could "take over the world" 10/10, but your opinions are askew and ill-informed.1) Storm doesn't need to fly into space to knock out satellites. Secondly, she has been shown to control solar winds/storms.
2) Uncanny X-men circa 455 "World's End" arc - Storm creates a blizzard that covers continents, slowly making its way to global. The forces were stated to be stronger than "those that shaped the earth."
3) Believing that she would tire before "destroying a state" is just plain stupidity, and only shows you've never picked up an X-book.
Honestly, you just don't know what your talking about.
for point two: she was hooked up to a machine that was killing her because of how much power she was using, wasn't she? I wouldnt' count that as evidence of what she can do. But, eh, I would say Storm could take over the world.
Originally posted by h1a8
Now if Storm wasn't humanly fragile against many physical things or she at least had superhuman reflexes combined with some type of precog then I would easily agree that she can possibly take over the world. But still it would be very hard for her because the world (especially the U.S.) are liars and very deceiving. They would make her think they are complying and then whammo she's slips up and dies. Precog and super reflexes or superhuman durability are essiential for her here.
And if humans weren't humanly fragile to, -100 degree winds, 15ft of snow, floods, hurricanes, tidal waves, etc. Then we might have a chance.
And the military is still 5-10 years away, probably more, to fielding lasers as an effective weapon of combat. Not to mention, the most powerful military based laser is mounted on a modified Boeing 747, AND, (here's the kicker) requires a runway (which will be covered in snow) a crew to launch and repair it (which wont be able to even step outside due to the cold,) and GPS to target its foes (which the GPS will be disabled from storm).
Also, storm doesn't have to fly to outer space to disable them, she has caused cosmic turbulence from well within the earths atmosphere.
You should really take the time to learn about military strengths and weakness, we are not all powerful like you believe, this is a fictional comic character, invading the REAL WORLD.
One thing I should note is: Storm is not neccesarily in "space" int hat scan. She is just high in the I guess at the ened of the thermosphere and at the top of the mesophere. Kinda like where satelites are.
The blusish glow is most likely the artisitc dipiction of the Earth's aura.
Her mutant abilities to compensate provide her with the wherewithall to survive in even the coldest most hostile atmospheres
http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm121pg145yd.jpg
Originally posted by 2damnloud
[b]None of the weather's manifestations can directly harm her, also protection from cold and immunity from the elements
Originally posted by h1a8
There is a such thing as PIS. If there wasn't then it wouldn't be in the forum rules now would it. Many here act like there is no such thing as PIS. They believe that if a feat happened in the comics (even only once) then it is not PIS. But PIS implies that it happened in the comic, but its just not valid here under forum rules. The first scan is still PIS (look it up). As she needed spacesuits in space before.Laser beams can not be affected by any wind (no matter how strong) or anything storm can do. They are made photons (not matter). It seems your saying that she can blow light away or that light can't survive under certain air pressures. Ridiculous! Remember light can travel even in a vacuum. Pressure does nothing to it.
It doesn't matter is she can talk during her strong winds (which she can't for its impossible because the strong wind will drown out her voice; and if she lowers the wind to a point where her voice can be heard then bullets will easily get through to her) for its moot. She will either slip up and be shot or nuked, tire and be shot or nuked, or be killed instantly with a laser or other desvastating tactic after being scanned by radar or satelite. Take your pick.
Many humans have survived being impaled (even through the chest or head) and shot. They were just lucky. I hope you're not arguing that Storm is immune to being shot or stabbed. For if you are, then I think it's now time to stop debating with you.
Now if Storm wasn't humanly fragile against many physical things or she at least had superhuman reflexes combined with some type of precog then I would easily agree that she can possibly take over the world. But still it would be very hard for her because the world (especially the U.S.) are liars and very deceiving. They would make her think they are complying and then whammo she's slips up and dies. Precog and super reflexes or superhuman durability are essiential for her here.
look at what you said, BEFORE. pis my tail. shes in space get over it.
i never said anything about a laser being stopped by wind. and for the record, you might want to study this.
In modern physics the photon is the elementary particle responsible for electromagnetic phenomena.
she has control of electromagnetics. that poor little laser will do nothing. and one mre thing storm has been shot twice. not once.
she doent have to lower the winds at all. look at the scan i posted . how is she communicating with the man. exactly. doent look like she needs to do anything, but bring the person to her.
satilite is destroyed along with all other machanics.
i never said she was immune. im just implying that she has been impaled and shot twice.
you forget that storm is capable of leadering. she knows strategy, and how the U.S thinks.
Originally posted by stormfrontJust when I thought they couldn't get any more retarded...
i never said anything about a laser being stopped by wind. and for the record, you might want to study this.
In modern physics the photon is the elementary particle responsible for electromagnetic phenomena.
she has control of electromagnetics. that poor little laser will do nothing.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I guess Wolverine could theoretically kill everyone on the planet, one at a time, for years and years until he finally had "taken over the world."Or not.
Wolverine could pull it off! After killing everyone in China, then India,it would create global economic tail spin. No cheap labor to make all the things we like in the western world. 😉
Originally posted by Apolloknight
And if humans weren't humanly fragile to, -100 degree winds, 15ft of snow, floods, hurricanes, tidal waves, etc. Then we might have a chance.And the military is still 5-10 years away, probably more, to fielding lasers as an effective weapon of combat. Not to mention, the most powerful military based laser is mounted on a modified Boeing 747, AND, (here's the kicker) requires a runway (which will be covered in snow) a crew to launch and repair it (which wont be able to even step outside due to the cold,) and GPS to target its foes (which the GPS will be disabled from storm).
Also, storm doesn't have to fly to outer space to disable them, she has caused cosmic turbulence from well within the earths atmosphere.
You should really take the time to learn about military strengths and weakness, we are not all powerful like you believe, this is a fictional comic character, invading the REAL WORLD.
The U.S. Government alone has lasers on the satelites. They also have nukes. You are referring to that old star wars crap they tried to develop in the 80's. Trust me, the government is beyond 30 years of what you think they are. Everything is top secret. Its even good evidence to support that they have alien technology (from collarborating with aliens to studing their ships).
There is no such thing as cosmic turbulence. Make things up why don't you. And even if there were, it couldn't disable the satelites.
Originally posted by stormfront
look at what you said, BEFORE. pis my tail. shes in space get over it.i never said anything about a laser being stopped by wind. and for the record, you might want to study this.
In modern physics the photon is the elementary particle responsible for electromagnetic phenomena.
she has control of electromagnetics. that poor little laser will do nothing. and one mre thing storm has been shot twice. not once.she doent have to lower the winds at all. look at the scan i posted . how is she communicating with the man. exactly. doent look like she needs to do anything, but bring the person to her.
satilite is destroyed along with all other machanics.
i never said she was immune. im just implying that she has been impaled and shot twice.
you forget that storm is capable of leadering. she knows strategy, and how the U.S thinks.
And you did imply that wind would stop lasers. Stop lying. Do you think I'm stupid? What was the comment about the pressure dome then? It takes wind to build a pressure dome. This is common sense.
She can't control laser beams no more than you can fly through the air like superman. To stop lasers she would not only need FTL reflexes but the power to do so. And storm has neither.
She does have to lower the wind. Otherwise her voice would be totally drowned in it. That is to say that if Storm has winds strong enough to stop bullets (if there exists such winds anyway) then it is absolutely impossible for her voice to not be drowned out.
And if she brings a person to her then how easily a bullet would get to her then.
I don't care if storm has been shot many times. The only way she's surviving a gun shot is through shear luck.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
One thing I should note is: Storm is not neccesarily in "space" int hat scan. She is just high in the I guess at the ened of the thermosphere and at the top of the mesophere. Kinda like where satelites are.The blusish glow is most likely the artisitc dipiction of the Earth's aura.
Her mutant abilities to compensate provide her with the wherewithall to survive in even the coldest most hostile atmospheres
Many many satelites are much further than the top of the atmosphere.
And there are easily more than a hundred of them.
Surviving the cold is the least of Storm's problems in space.
The vacuum and the cosmic radiation, and lack of breathing air will be her biggest.
Originally posted by h1a8
The U.S. Government alone has lasers on the satelites. They also have nukes. You are referring to that old star wars crap they tried to develop in the 80's. Trust me, the government is beyond 30 years of what you think they are. Everything is top secret. Its even good evidence to support that they have alien technology (from collarborating with aliens to studing their ships).There is no such thing as cosmic turbulence. Make things up why don't you. And even if there were, it couldn't disable the satelites.
You just failed........horribly I might add.
You have no idea what your talking about with the military.
And there is no such thing as cosmic turbulence, then what is it, that the sun does with the giant solar flares that tends to disrupt cell phones, tv transmissions oh and SATELLITES, every once in a while.
Look you don't wanna do the military argument with me, you'll lose, bad.
Also i get it, Storm hate is fun, OK, enough with the joke of what your calling counter points to try to justify the storm hate that's being going on lately, your cool now, you apart of the "IN" crowd, now let it go.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
You just failed........horribly I might add.You have no idea what your talking about with the military.
And there is no such thing as cosmic turbulence, then what is it, that the sun does with the giant solar flares that tends to disrupt cell phones, tv transmissions oh and SATELLITES, every once in a while.
Look you don't wanna do the military argument with me, you'll lose, bad.
Also i get it, Storm hate is fun, OK, enough with the joke of what your calling counter points to try to justify the storm hate that's being going on lately, your cool now, you apart of the "IN" crowd, now let it go.
No, please. I want to lose bad.
I know much much more than you think Sr.
From the looks of things I don't think you know much about the U.S. military's technology.
How do you know they don't have the knowledge to cold fusion?
How do you know they never collarborated with aliens or learned technology from their ships?
How do you know anything about their top secret technologies?
If you knew then you would be either dead or have very very high class security clearance to the top secret info.
And what you are referring to is not cosmic turbulence.
Now can storm disable the satelites? No
Can she disrupt them while shes in Earth's atmosphere, similarly to how the sun's flares disrupts cell phones and stuff ? I would say no here too, since I would need to see proof of this. I would also need proof of the scope she can do this. For example, proof is needed to show that Storm can affect the entire satelites around the Earth at once.
And I don't hate storm. Well a little. This is because a simple bullet can end her, even before one neuron fires in her head to react. She has super weak a$$ physical durability. Its just that I, from my comic experience with her, just happen to know that she has 0 chance in taking over the world.
Now she can cause some very major damage. I agree to that.
But taking over the world, hell no!
Originally posted by h1a8
No, please. I want to lose bad.
Np.
Originally posted by h1a8
I know much much more than you think Sr.
I'm not saying you don't know about the military. I am saying, however, that the subject we are discussing (how important satellites are the the military and everything we do) I have quite a bit of understanding of.
I'm not saying I know more then you, again, I just telling you that the subject we are discussing I am very well informed about. TRUST ME. I'm in the military, and my job gives me a good insight on how we conduct military operations. Not to mention my wife is the one that plans missions for the aircraft.
Originally posted by h1a8
From the looks of things I don't think you know much about the U.S. military's technology.
Really lets see your basing everything you have to say on this
Originally posted by h1a8How do you know they don't have the knowledge to cold fusion?
How do you know they never collarborated with aliens or learned technology from their ships?
How do you know anything about their top secret technologies?
Theories!!???? Are you MAD? ARE YOU INSANE? You claim to know about military tech and you base your logic off THEORY'S!!!??
Listen, I'm not saying we haven't don't those things, but most of the info we have is pure Speculation.
I don't live my life on Speculations, I like to look at the facts, and the fact is, until someone comes out and says, OMGWTF WE HAVE THE ALIEN SPACESHIP, I'm not going to waste my time thinking about it.
For example you say, "The government probably has alien space craft in a top secret base". You state this without proof, only a theory.
Then I could say "THe military has a moon base on the opposite side of the moon", I could state that, its only a theory. Theory's can be treated the same way as comic evidence, show me proof, not what you or others "THINK YOU KNOW".
Originally posted by h1a8If you knew then you would be either dead or have very very high class security clearance to the top secret info.
I do.
Originally posted by h1a8
And what you are referring to is not cosmic turbulence.
Now can storm disable the satelites? No
Can she disrupt them while shes in Earth's atmosphere, similarly to how the sun's flares disrupts cell phones and stuff ? I would say no here too, since I would need to see proof of this. I would also need proof of the scope she can do this. For example, proof is needed to show that Storm can affect the entire satelites around the Earth at once.
She has depowered Skrull warships, robbed them of their electrical power.
Satellites operate with electric instruments.
Comic skrull warship>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Real life Satellites that often fail on their own.
You fail.
Also, you avoid points, if you go back and read my original argument in this Thread, I said that storm would take a day to disable most of the satellites around the planet, I never said anything about the same time.
You fail again.
Originally posted by h1a8And I don't hate storm. Well a little. This is because a simple bullet can end her, even before one neuron fires in her head to react. She has super weak a$$ physical durability. Its just that I, from my comic experience with her, just happen to know that she has 0 chance in taking over the world.
Now she can cause some very major damage. I agree to that.
But taking over the world, hell no!
THis is why you fail again, a simple bullet needs a simple target.
When the snow starts falling, the the hurricanes start poppin off, who are we going to shoot?
Wait, if you say storm......you fail that much more. A snowstorm, is a snowstrom, what are we going to do, shoot at the snowstorm?????
Again, people are allowed prep, thus the first strike.
fail, phail, f141.
Also, I'm not saying that a bullet cant end her, but the simple fact that she can do so much before we can even mount a counter offensive is crazy.
Storm could take over the world, and again, there would be nothing we could do to stop her.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I'm in the military, and my job gives me a good insight on how we conduct military operations. Not to mention my wife is the one that plans missions for the aircraft.
Damn dont **** with Apollo he'll hunt you down and take you out. By the way if I ever said anything that pissed you off im very very sorry.....please dont kill me.
crying1
Originally posted by h1a8
Super common sense:A close range nuke will disintegrate Storm before one neuron fires in her head to think.
They don't get close:
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swattingjets1br0.jpg
Even if they do, there is a possibility of her redorecting it and creating even more destruction, or further using the energies to enhance her own to the point of creating well................. even MORE destruction.
*storm continues to do her thing*
