Classic Juggernaut vs 8th Day Juggernaut...tug of war.

Originally posted by Galan007
More focused = more powerful.

And 8th Day Juggs was "more powerful" for that reason.

So 8th day really isn't more powerful.

In fact 8th day and Classic are the same.

So basically all this thread starter did was basically say Focused Juggernaut vs Normal minded Juggernaut.

Which is like saying. I'm putting an enraged Hulk against a normal Hulk.

All that is going to happen is that 8th Day will be winning until Classic gets mad and focused than it becomes a stalemate.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes but at the same time Classic Juggernaut can reach those levels as well.

So 8th day really isn't more powerful.

Classic Juggs may be able to do the same, but since he never has.... Well I'm sure you know where I am going with this.. 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes 8th Day is more powerful, because we've actually seen him reach the levels he has.

Classic Juggs may be able to do the same, but since he never has.... Well I'm sure you know where I am going with this.. 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
8th Day was Classic Juggernaut reaching those levels so we do know Classic Juggs can reach those levels.. 😛

Even though they are two different versions of a character, with different feats and powersets... By your line of thinking, they would battle to a standstill, because DOS DD is H/P DD.

I think I'm getting it. 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
So DOS DD would stalemate H/P DD, right?

Even though they are two different versions of a character, with different feats and powersets... By your line of thinking, they would battle to a standstill, because DOS DD [b]is H/P DD.

I think I'm getting it. 😛 [/B]

All 8th Day is Classic Juggs focused on doing something. All Classic Juggs needs to get to 8th Day level is be as focused as he was during teh 8th day saga 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Except H/P Doomsday is a more Evoloved Version of DD so it is a different version.

Especially when Thor claimed his power to be a hundred times greater then it was before. 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
All Classic Juggs needs to get to 8th Day level is be as focused as he was during teh 8th day saga 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
I could say the ecact same thing about 8th Day Juggs.

Especially when Thor claimed his power to be a hundred times greater then it was before. 😬

Because he does that all the time, ey?

And he wuld have been a 100 ties stronge rhe because he was focusing and using more of his power.

And ahs Cain gotten mad and or focused his power to do things that normally he doesn't. Just look at Nightmare since you've seen them 😛

It's just like the Hulk. Hulk gets stronger with his rage but he is still the same old Hulk. World War Hulk is just Hulk very angry as has been stated many times. Would you try and say that normal Hulk couldn't reach WWH levels if he was angry enough?

Originally posted by Newjak
Would you try and say that normal Hulk couldn't reach WWH levels if he was angry enough?

Originally posted by Galan007
Not if he never had before. 😬

That the things is that 8th day Jugegrnaut is Classic reaching those levels in a particular story arc. Not a completley different character who just came along for that one Saga.

Originally posted by Newjak
But that makes no sense seeing as it is a Normal Hulk reaching those levels 😬

That the things is that 8th day Jugegrnaut is Classic reaching those levels in a particular story arc. Not a completley different character who just came along for that one Saga.

It's not like classic Juggs reaches those levels all the time. If that were true, then Hulk would have been NO problem for him. 🙂

But, is strength really relevant in this matchup? Both Juggies are supposed to be unstoppable when going in one direction. The unstoppable nature comes from the magic of the Cytorrak ruby.

So, with that said....it was pointed out earlier that 8th day Juggs taps into that power more efficiently. If so, would Classic Juggs be stopped and towed by 8th day in this contest?

Originally posted by Galan007
But Juggy's particular mind frame which gave him that much power, was ONLY used in THAT arc.

It's not like classic Juggs reaches those levels all the time. If that were true, then Hulk would have been NO problem for him. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
So they are completley different people despite them having the same abilities and powers. Its just that cain was shown to actually be serious in a fight and all of a sudden Cain can not do that anytime? 😬

This is why I personally wouldn't credit classic Juggs, with 8th Day Jugg's feats.

Classic Juggy was an absolute beast though. FAR more then just the 'brick' many people think he is.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not saying Cain can't do it any time, just that he doesn't. [A feat not seen, is a feat not accomplished].

This is why I personally wouldn't credit classic Juggs, with 8th Day Jugg's feats.

Classic Juggy was an absolute beast though. FAR more then just the 'brick' many people think he is.

The only difference is Cain was actually serious and focused. A frame of mind he could reach anytime.

Originally posted by Newjak
Except every feat 8th day did was a feat for Classic Juggs as they are one and the same person.

The only difference is Cain was actually serious and focused. A frame of mind he could reach anytime.

Originally posted by Galan007
[A feat not seen, is a feat not accomplished].

Originally posted by Galan007

Originally posted by Newjak
Ok then explain to me why Cain Marko can not reach the same level focus he had in the 8th Day Saga?

I'm not saying Cain can't reach those levels, just saying that he doesn't do so...

If it was within his regular powerset to attain that power on a regular basis, he would have pwned the Hulk with ease, in their encounters since the 8th Day arc..

Originally posted by Galan007
As I said before,

I'm not saying Cain can't reach those levels, just saying that he doesn't do so...

If it was within his regular powerset to attain that power on a regular basis, he would have pwned the Hulk with ease, in their encounters since the 8th Day arc..

He did in fact one shot Thor

He did in fact reach that level of focus

You know it's that whole Cannon thing that goes on in comics. Juggernaut did get focused and did get serious and he attained that level of power. It wasn't like he got some kind of outside power-up. He just got more focused and once again was stronger.

And it was Normal Cain that reached those levels.

It's the same character....

Originally posted by Newjak
The only problem with your statement is he did reach those levels in the 8th Day Saga.

He did in fact one shot Thor

He did in fact reach that level of focus

You know it's that whole Cannon thing that goes on in comics. Juggernaut did get focused and did get serious and he attained that level of power. It wasn't like he got some kind of outside power-up. He just got more focused and once again was stronger.

And it was Normal Cain that reached those levels.

You act as though 'powering himself up' is something Juggy does on a regular basis.

The fact is..... He doesn't. (That was the ONLY time he's done so.)

To say Juggs could 'power up' outside the specific parameters of that ONE arc, is a sketchy argument to say the least.