Kain(LOK) vs. Pyron(DS)

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Now we are speaking my language 🪩

Jafar can do magic with the bare thought. It has been seen at several points and this is a thypical example of what Jafar can do.

The fight between Genie and Jafar. He only use his finger when he projectile different things.

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1. Increase his size.

2. Make multiple clones of himself.

3. Turn Pyron into a card.

4. Change Pyron into whatever he wants.

5. Shrink Pyron considerably. If I'm not mistaken Pyron has to feast on things to increase in size as opposed to just doing so whenever he wants. Not that it matters since Jafar could simply take away that ability.

6. Seal Pyron like I initially thought.

Yeah! Jafar played a fun little game with Genie, who has immense powers when it comes to cosmos, time and space. Magic overall and all that. He never stood even the slightest of a chance 😛

Which is a shame ermm

I love Genie 😐

aw yeh i like Genie too, also wheres the proof pyron can change his size at will? was just wondering, he has to eat planets and feed for power so obviously he cant become any size

I think Genie was inferior to Jafar at the time since he was a "freed" Genie whereas Jafar was a sealed Genie. However it is my opinion that a sealed Genie is at full power whereas a freed Genie isn''t, which could explain the event. I haven't seen proof of this though.

Anyway, my point from my last post is crystal clear and obvious. V2D, you yourself stated to Terror Death in the Power Rangers thread that Genie is only bound by three rules, and could do anything to the PR villains. Do not go against your statement now.

Jafar did that on his own! I do not believe it was a part of anyones wish and therefore it was an action of free will, which pretty much makes him a free genie at that specific time 😛

I know, what I meant was that a sealed Genie may be more powerful than a free one, since Jafar overcame Genie, but of course I wasn't saying that Jafar was incapable of acting without a person. He can, as Genie did when he first came out of his lamp in the first Alladin (remember that little concert he was playing in the cave)?

Though once again, it isn't that I don't like Pyron or anything. I've stated a lot of times that he was badass. Someone with limitless potential could match a genie.

Pyron's power is limited only by the boundaries of his mind.😐 If that's not unlimited potential then what is? I find it hard to believe that Jafar, who couldn't kill Iago, a bird, will kill Pyron.😐 Pyron changes his size at will due, read the scans that I posted, when Pyron was reborn as a cosmic being, he starts at normal size, then grows to bigger than a skyscraper all the way to larger than the planet. He doesn't need to absorb shit to change size. Pyron will have killed Jafar before he could use his power, also, that vid did not show Jafar doing magic without moving once, all the times he supposedly did he was offscreen. Jafar is powerful, but if he's really >Pyron, and yet he can't kill a bird or a guy on a flying carpet? I could just say it is PIS, but fact is his fireball did not kill Iago. Pyron can move faster than lightspeed as those scans post by Estacado show, he annihilates Jafar.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron's power is limited only by the boundaries of his mind.😐 If that's not unlimited potential then what is? I find it hard to believe that Jafar, who couldn't kill Iago, a bird, will kill Pyron.😐 Pyron changes his size at will due, read the scans that I posted, when Pyron was reborn as a cosmic being, he starts at normal size, then grows to bigger than a skyscraper all the way to larger than the planet. He doesn't need to absorb shit to change size. Pyron will have killed Jafar before he could use his power, also, that vid did not show Jafar doing magic without moving once, all the times he supposedly did he was offscreen. Jafar is powerful, but if he's really >Pyron, and yet he can't kill a bird or a guy on a flying carpet? I could just say it is PIS, but fact is his fireball did not kill Iago. Pyron can move faster than lightspeed as those scans post by Estacado show, he annihilates Jafar.

There's something called a plot-line.. Creators of cartoons and comics do that, in order to defeat something that normally cannot be defeated.. Not in the specific situation..

those scans show s**t 😂 first it shows to move quickily he seems to have to go into a ball, and 2nd it shows he does not go lightspeed, because we can see his tiny amount of progress away from earth unless it takes him a lot of buildup to go at great speed.

and then his mind must be tiny then, if his power is limited by them yet hes a planet eating cosmic being it doesnt make sense...he doesnt even fit into darkstalkers if hes got great power, obviously his mind "must" be tiny..if my power was limited only by my imagination i wouldnt want to be a ridiculous planet eating lonely bugger..i could shape reality how i wanted it to be, yet hes feeding on planets, why doesnt he just create a planet if he has such power with people and lifeforms on it, or if he wants beings to battle create some for himself..he obviously cannot

and no, jafar cannot kill Iago because Genies cannot kill anyone, not to menstion he was being shortsighted and foolish because he could not see his lamp going near the lava or anything like that. Also what makes you think Pyron can kill Jafar...without access to his lamp pyron will be like a infant girl trying to beat up a thug who stolen her ice cream.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron's power is limited only by the boundaries of his mind.😐 If that's not unlimited potential then what is? I find it hard to believe that Jafar, who couldn't kill Iago, a bird, will kill Pyron.😐 Pyron changes his size at will due, read the scans that I posted, when Pyron was reborn as a cosmic being, he starts at normal size, then grows to bigger than a skyscraper all the way to larger than the planet. He doesn't need to absorb shit to change size. Pyron will have killed Jafar before he could use his power, also, that vid did not show Jafar doing magic without moving once, all the times he supposedly did he was offscreen. Jafar is powerful, but if he's really >Pyron, and yet he can't kill a bird or a guy on a flying carpet? I could just say it is PIS, but fact is his fireball did not kill Iago. Pyron can move faster than lightspeed as those scans post by Estacado show, he annihilates Jafar.

Once again, Iago kicked the lamp into a pit of lava in the second video, when Jafar thought Iago was too weak to even move his leg while he was laying on the rock next to the lamp. Those are plot device wins via the lamp, which if a thread creator decided to take away, Pyron would have nothing on Jafar.

Face it dude. You said yourself that Jafar's only bound by three rules and could do whatever he wants. That logic explains why Jafar is very capable and likely to overcome Pyron.

How in the world did you guys get into Jafar talk.. Isn't this Kain/Pyron?

Did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I might need directions ermm

whats to stop jafar, hes shown to be able to create pocket dimensions and alternate universes of his own, he could make pyron into anything he would want him to be at the same time as growing as large as he can be arsed to be, he could become 1000 times pyron size and play ball with pyron as the ball across the universe with another copy of himself.

and yeh but Pyron/kain battle ended so for some reason it was side tracked haha

Originally posted by Burning thought
those scans show s**t 😂 first it shows to move quickily he seems to have to go into a ball, and 2nd it shows he does not go lightspeed, because we can see his tiny amount of progress away from earth unless it takes him a lot of buildup to go at great speed.

and then his mind must be tiny then, if his power is limited by them yet hes a planet eating cosmic being it doesnt make sense...he doesnt even fit into darkstalkers if hes got great power, obviously his mind "must" be tiny..if my power was limited only by my imagination i wouldnt want to be a ridiculous planet eating lonely bugger..i could shape reality how i wanted it to be, yet hes feeding on planets, why doesnt he just create a planet if he has such power with people and lifeforms on it, or if he wants beings to battle create some for himself..he obviously cannot

and no, jafar cannot kill Iago because Genies cannot kill anyone, not to menstion he was being shortsighted and foolish because he could not see his lamp going near the lava or anything like that. Also what makes you think Pyron can kill Jafar...without access to his lamp pyron will be like a infant girl trying to beat up a thug who stolen her ice cream.

2. No, I used to say his power was only limited by imagination because I forgot what the original quote said, but now I know it says the boundaries of his mind. He is among the strongest in DS dude. He eats planets because he chooses to, it feeds his already immense power and he especially loves eating beautiful planets with lots of life energy. Also, you are underrating DS, they are the top tier of the fighting games world and one of the strongest series in the gaming world. He created the Huitzils in the palm of his hand in an instant, phail. Also, don't be that guy who trys to argue against the narrator, it's futile.

3. So how will he kill Pyron? Pyron is a magnitude more powerful than ?Jafar, he can do anything to Pyron if it doesn't kill him, and if he can't kill Pyron, he can't win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
whats to stop jafar, hes shown to be able to create pocket dimensions and alternate universes of his own, he could make pyron into anything he would want him to be at the same time as growing as large as he can be arsed to be, he could become 1000 times pyron size and play ball with pyron as the ball across the universe with another copy of himself.

Originally posted by shin_gear
No offense pal, but your constant "why couldn't character A kill character B" bullshit is irritating as hell. READ what I said before about Iago and Aladdin. Just as Jafar became an "all powerful genie" as the movie puts it, he was sealed in the lamp before he could do anything under his own will, after being convinced by Aladdin that being the most powerful sorcerer in the world wasn't the highest state of power and that being a genie was. THAT is how Aladdin overcame Jafar.

Once again, Iago kicked the lamp into a pit of lava in the second video, when Jafar thought Iago was too weak to even move his leg while he was laying on the rock next to the lamp. Those are plot device wins via the lamp, which if a thread creator decided to take away, Pyron would have nothing on Jafar.

Face it dude. You said yourself that Jafar's only bound by three rules and could do whatever he wants. That logic explains why Jafar is very capable and likely to overcome Pyron.

2. Pyron has the ability to kill over Jafar.😬

3. True, but he could only beat Pyron if he managed to kill him, he can't, so he can't win. Also, just incase you did not know, there are different levels of omnipotence. Pyron has limited omnipotence for example, as does Jafar from what he has shown in the movie, only Pyron's is less limited.

what? if he cant kill pyron he cant win? the debate ends if an opponent is Koed or incapacitated, you know that otherwise Kain wins by default in every Games vs hes in.

and what makes you think hes left the solarsystem...because he is a glowing ball in the distance, that shows nothing in speed nor the distance hes travled, hes a large being and very bright, it would make sense you could see him, infact its more likely that he is still quite close considering we can still see him, he isnt that large or that bright at that moment

his mind is blatently small, if he cannot comprehend with his vast powers of near omnipotence if his mind is the limit of his power then with all his power he cannot comprehend anything beyond traveling the unvierse eating planets "sigh". Also does he fight those robots in that anime you showed me, why is he fighting his own robots?

V2D...didn't you say in this very thread that someone doesn't need to kill someone else in order for that person to win?

You know what I'm going to do a post search on you...😈

HA! That was easy.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He was completely absorbed by Demitri. Pyron could also, you know, muscle the reaver from him. And he doesn't need to kill him to win, he'll put him in the sun, even if he doesn't die, gravity will keep him there and he will suffer til said sun explodes.

Originally posted by Burning thought
what? if he cant kill pyron he cant win? the debate ends if an opponent is Koed or incapacitated, you know that otherwise Kain wins by default in every Games vs hes in.

and what makes you think hes left the solarsystem...because he is a glowing ball in the distance, that shows nothing in speed nor the distance hes travled, hes a large being and very bright, it would make sense you could see him, infact its more likely that he is still quite close considering we can still see him, he isnt that large or that bright at that moment

his mind is blatently small, if he cannot comprehend with his vast powers of near omnipotence if his mind is the limit of his power then with all his power he cannot comprehend anything beyond traveling the unvierse eating planets "sigh". Also does he fight those robots in that anime you showed me, why is he fighting his own robots?

2. Pyron was bigger than the Earth. 😐 He was flying at a vast speed that also left a giant trail of fire behind him, for all we know that's what we saw. Also, we can see stars solar system's away, seeing Pyron as a small glowing dot in the far distance still indicates that he is out of the solar system.

3. Pyron can still destroy galaxies with a belly flop.😐 I'm not sure why he fought them in the OVA, I think that the Huitzil's are different in the OVA, but in the comic he created them in his hand.

contradicting himself
and no, the stream of fire shows hes unlikey doing light speed, if he was we wouldnt see anything much at all, just a glow,yet we see his tail, hes probably going the speed of a moving comet or something..meteor and a dot in the far distance can be any distance from only a few hundred miles away but hes not bright enough to be seen from another solarsystem, hes large yes but hes not actually a sun as youve said and hes not anywhere near the size of the sun.