Kain(LOK) vs. Pyron(DS)

Originally posted by Burning thought
how would pyron however touch kain? if he has hans the size of galaxies i doubt hed be able to go near kain, infact kain could actually win this if pyron is adromeda galaxy size..i mean he wont be able to barely see kain i doubt since kain would be..well can you imagine being the size of a galaxy and trying to see something the size of a man, unless pyron can see small things, however since Pyron has a soul, Kain has a chance

also teleporting for kain takes no time or effort either, in soul reaver he teleported miles within a near instant.

What makes you think pyron would be able to put kain in the sun,kain who is so tiny pyron will look like hes moving slowly, unless pyron has godlike speed as well, pyron would be doomed in his full size, because kain will just destory his soul..a soul, no matter how big or power the being is, unless he has soul protection his soul is vulerable.

excellent, i dont have to hold foolish debates with you..or rather, debate by myself while you speak random things. As i said, size is not everything...one germ can kill a human being, the germ is so small it cannot be seen..it will be like this with pyron unless you can prove something i have overlooked, i will only admit kains defeat to beings i know 100% he cannot win against..

so far pyron is large..but thats about it, the likelyness he can see kain combined with the fact he has a soul gives kain options other than being defeaten unless someone can prove pyron can would see kain even though he is so small, does it have super vision or powers over vison?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I made this due to comments by someone that Kain is unkillable and can't lose less he's killed by the Reaver, may be true that only Reaver can kill him, but he doesn't need to die to lose.

Oh I tried that against Sephiroth vs Ganondorf when everyone said that Sephiroth wouldn't be able to kill Ganondorf because only the Master Sword and Light/Silver Arrows could kill Ganondorf even though his own attacks (which I doubt are light based attacks) injured Ganondorf.

But Kain has no way to win against Pyron.

Originally posted by Burning thought
how would pyron however touch kain? if he has hans the size of galaxies i doubt hed be able to go near kain, infact kain could actually win this if pyron is adromeda galaxy size..i mean he wont be able to barely see kain i doubt since kain would be..well can you imagine being the size of a galaxy and trying to see something the size of a man, unless pyron can see small things, however since Pyron has a soul, Kain has a chance

also teleporting for kain takes no time or effort either, in soul reaver he teleported miles within a near instant.

What makes you think pyron would be able to put kain in the sun,kain who is so tiny pyron will look like hes moving slowly, unless pyron has godlike speed as well, pyron would be doomed in his full size, because kain will just destory his soul..a soul, no matter how big or power the being is, unless he has soul protection his soul is vulerable.

sorry for missing the part where he can change his size,well if he is the wears galaxies for rings size he loses, if hes kain size, he loses, if he perhaps becomes the size of a skyscraper..then perhaps he wins

also so what about devouring planets?...humans can blow up planets, its nothing too difficult, planet busting is nothing...galaxy destroying is powerful but simply because one can destroy innanimate, non-sentient physical objects that do not fight back doesnt mean it can defeat something like kain

kain loses if you can prove pyron could see him and move at a fair speed, considering he is so enormous kain would be a like a microbe is to a human...and would defeat pyron, how can pyron possibly win if he cannot see kain?, all kain has to do is do Soul death or put the reaver in pyron to win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
sorry for missing the part where he can change his size,well if he is the wears galaxies for rings size he loses, if hes kain size, he loses, if he perhaps becomes the size of a skyscraper..then perhaps he wins

also so what about devouring planets?...humans can blow up planets, its nothing too difficult, planet busting is nothing...galaxy destroying is powerful but simply because one can destroy innanimate, non-sentient physical objects that do not fight back doesnt mean it can defeat something like kain

kain loses if you can prove pyron could see him and move at a fair speed, considering he is so enormous kain would be a like a microbe is to a human...and would defeat pyron, how can pyron possibly win if he cannot see kain?, all kain has to do is do Soul death or put the reaver in pyron to win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
sorry for missing the part where he can change his size,well if he is the wears galaxies for rings size he loses, if hes kain size, he loses, if he perhaps becomes the size of a skyscraper..then perhaps he wins

also so what about devouring planets?...humans can blow up planets, its nothing too difficult, planet busting is nothing...galaxy destroying is powerful but simply because one can destroy innanimate, non-sentient physical objects that do not fight back doesnt mean it can defeat something like kain

kain loses if you can prove pyron could see him and move at a fair speed, considering he is so enormous kain would be a like a microbe is to a human...and would defeat pyron, how can pyron possibly win if he cannot see kain?, all kain has to do is do Soul death or put the reaver in pyron to win.

BT, dude, it's your opinion that Kain's invincible. I haven't really seen anything from you confirming that he can't be beaten in battle.

humans can destroy planets, with nuclear weapons, it would only take a few fusion nukes to perhaps cause incredible geo events such as earthquates, the plates would go crazy on the earth.

if pyron is actually as fast as you say he is and becomes kain will lose 8/10...can you prove his that fast, i dont remember it saying anything about him moving incredibly fast from the scraps of information ive read, ill read some of them again.

and gear he can be beaten, knocked out...made incapacitated...but cannot be killed is when i meant invincible.

Originally posted by Burning thought
humans can destroy planets, with nuclear weapons, it would only take a few fusion nukes to perhaps cause incredible geo events such as earthquates, the plates would go crazy on the earth.

if pyron is actually as fast as you say he is and becomes kain will lose 8/10...can you prove his that fast, i dont remember it saying anything about him moving incredibly fast from the scraps of information ive read, ill read some of them again.

and gear he can be beaten, knocked out...made incapacitated...but cannot be killed is when i meant invincible.

all kain has to do is put the reaver in pyron and no matter what size he is, he dies, or from range could soul death pyron...Pyron wins 8/10 for 2/10 is the chance i would say kain would slash pyron, mist in time to slash pyron or from range soul death pyron before he can break the distance and thats taking into consideration him being kains size in this fight

is the anime anything to go by, if so he isnt that fast in the anime perhaps its uncannon, can you give me links to Pyron information, in some things ive read it says he uses a ship to travel, in others he uses nothing and travels himself it seems, can you prove to me he moves fast?, without proof there no good using his speed as superior to kain in this debate

Originally posted by Burning thought
all kain has to do is put the reaver in pyron and no matter what size he is, he dies, or from range could soul death pyron...Pyron wins 8/10 for 2/10 is the chance i would say kain would slash pyron, mist in time to slash pyron or from range soul death pyron before he can break the distance and thats taking into consideration him being kains size in this fight

is the anime anything to go by, if so he isnt that fast in the anime perhaps its uncannon, can you give me links to Pyron information, in some things ive read it says he uses a ship to travel, in others he uses nothing and travels himself it seems, can you prove to me he moves fast?, without proof there no good using his speed as superior to kain in this debate

i dont mind kain losing under the correct means, i stick with what i said, believing Pyron is fast enough, takes the size of kain or perhaps a bit bigger, say 10 foot max or maybe 20/30 feet so kain cannot use TK on him he wins 8/10, the 2/10 taking into account the chances of kain misting in time to avoid, slashing pyron, or pyron accidently getting slashed by the reaver or kain letting off his ranged Soul death attack in time.

i would indeed like to see the proof who this guy you talk of can post, it woud be interesting

Originally posted by Burning thought
i dont mind kain losing under the correct means, i stick with what i said, believing Pyron is fast enough, takes the size of kain or perhaps a bit bigger, say 10 foot max or maybe 20/30 feet so kain cannot use TK on him he wins 8/10, the 2/10 taking into account the chances of kain misting in time to avoid, slashing pyron, or pyron accidently getting slashed by the reaver or kain letting off his ranged Soul death attack in time.

i would indeed like to see the proof who this guy you talk of can post, it woud be interesting

Fail.

He uses emo Slipknot.

Slipknot is cool, they are not emo. Just turn off the volume if you don't like it.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Fail.

He uses emo Slipknot.

You have to admit BT, Kain is no match for what Pyron showed in that vid.

It's cheap pop metal and rock.

Slayer kicks their ass.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
It's cheap pop metal and rock.