Thanos HOTU vs. The Kirby Avatar

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos had no power over the omniverse. The Studio that was drawn where kirby sat was shown in FF to be beyond the Marvel omniverse. So marvel in effect created a super flous place. The Kirby Avatar is above thanos with the heart any day, just like DC's presence Sits behind the viel out side of the DC omniverse. Thanos was Supreme within the Marvel verse that he destroyed. Yet he was not God. He wasn't in full control and he never sat high and looked low. Kirby Avatar for the win.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos had all the power over the Omniverse.

What Thanos did not have was power beyond the Omniverse, where "Heaven" is.

True.

I agree.

Although pinning THOTI against "Kirby avatar" is pointless.

Because "Kirby avatar" represents (yes on panel)
something Beyond any and all other depictions in Marvel Comics.

God/Toaa represent the Artists & Writers, so how can any Other drawing win?

Exactly, it's impossible.

True, Thanos was Supreme in the Omniverse.

Thanos WAS God.

Thanos was everything the Kirby avatar could've been in the Omniverse.

Thanos was givin the power of the Kirby avatar,
but again, WITHIN the Omniverse.

In other words,

think of THOTI as a manifestation of the Kirby avatar withIn the Omniverse.

Of course he wasn't, Thanos is a drawing in a Comic book.

The Writers and Artists will always be in control of what their little pictures do.

But again,

THOTI is the basically the manifestation of the power
of the Artists & Writers in Marvel comics.

Jim Starlin & Al Milgrom vs their creation (a Drawing) Thanos/THOTI

See how silly that is.

the Kirby Avatar is a character on a page in a book. Which isn't silly. try to spin it all you want. Kirby on Panel is nothing more than a character. Avatar he may be, he is still a character on panel and he is superior in power to Thanos with the heart. Nuff said.

Let's look at what has been established by marvel.

The Art studio that belongs to the kirby avatar is ABOVE the marvel omniverse. This has never been retconned. It is also shown that the kirby avatar and his collaborator, ( ON PANEL) control all of marvel. These are characters remind you. And they exist apart from the marvel omniverse and are superior to it. ON PANEL. Thanos with the heart, was never shown above the omniverse, and was shown as being used by the great manipulator. The LT's boss, who is Kirby, established by on panel depictions from marvel. So marvel has already established it's character hierachy for us. Thanos is Superior to the LT but inferior to Kirby Avatar and the collaborator as it is shown that they control the marvel omniverse and all that happens to it. FROM THE OUTSIDE OF IT. As external forces.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the Kirby Avatar is a character on a page in a book. Which isn't silly. try to spin it all you want. Kirby on Panel is nothing more than a character. Avatar he may be, he is still a character on panel and he is superior in power to Thanos with the heart. Nuff said.

Thanos HOTI and the avatar are the same. Pull your head out of your ass.

Originally posted by Air Legend
God you dumbass, they are the same. The avatar is not above the omniverse because he is a ****in comic book character. The heaven that was depicted was part of the ominverse (comic book world). What the "heaven" represented was the real studio which is above "heaven". The real life artist has control over the avatar and Thanos w/ HOTI.

Thanos HOTI and the avatar are the same. Pull your head out of your ass.

Wow, this thread is stupid.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Wow, this thread is stupid.

what is stupid is that people actually think that the thanos with the heart of the infinite wields even remotely the same power as the kirby avatar was depicted at having.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So Death and Adam Warlock were in Marvel Studios in the real world?

Yeah, I met them last week.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
what is stupid is that people actually think that the thanos with the heart of the infinite wields even remotely the same power as the kirby avatar was depicted at having.

It's not an avatar, just a past fourth wall cameo.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Yeah, I met them last week.

he's actually referring to why adam worlock and death weren't absorbed when the omniverse was absorbed. becuz on panel, kirby exist outside of all of that. Even the void of comics.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It's not an avatar, just a past fourth wall cameo.

Um, a cameo is an appearance. By what? An avatar of kirby, who is God according to the story.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
he's actually referring to why adam worlock and death weren't absorbed when the omniverse was absorbed. becuz on panel, kirby exist outside of all of that. Even the void of comics.

It was a joke, mane. 😬

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have reported you for calling me a dumbass. As far as the heaven depicted on panel, it was shown that the fantastic four broke the 4th wall, and they were OUtside of the marvel omniverse. It was even shown how kirby was drawing thier world with his pen. Much like the 5th dimensional imps draw dc's world's. Thanos with the heart was never the power of the avatar of kirby. He isn't shown above the omniverse. Hell he doesn't even show the omnipotence that kirby has. complete and total control of everything. The kirby avatar is depicted on panel as in total control. now enjoy your warning from the mods.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, a cameo is an appearance. By what? An avatar of kirby, who is God according to the story.

Well, of course he's going to be considered god in the story. That's not the point, writers insert themselves in stories all the time. It's a litterary device, since they cannot actually go inside the story. This thread is stupid because it makes it seem that Jack Kirby is an actual marvel character and were pitting characters against the artist.

Originally posted by Air Legend
You reported me? Good for you. You are a dumbass. This isn't church.
The omniverse includes all realities and heaven is just that- another reality. Thanos became the Almighty aka the avatar and collaborator. The power that the avatar, collaborator, and THOTI represent is the power of the real life artists and writers.

No. becuz the real life writers and artist aren't manipulated by any master manipulator. Thus thanos doesn't have the power of the kirby avatar. Which is depicted as totally supreme. It's also shown that the FF breach the omniverse. So for all intents and purposes, Marvel created something much grander than the Omniverse when they introduced god. And I'm calling The Studio heaven as a reference. Maybe if you weren't such a blind fan boy and so slow witted, then you could see that Kirby was depicted as God on panel, and since thanos was used by the LT's boss, Thanos was less than Kirby and thus cannot stalemate or win.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Well, of course he's going to be considered god in the story. That's not the point, writers insert themselves in stories all the time. It's a litterary device, since they cannot actually go inside the story. This thread is stupid because it makes it seem that Jack Kirby is an actual marvel character and were pitting characters against the artist.

He is a character in the story. Is there not a story with kirby in it? If he's not a character then what is he? The real Kirby? 😆

Originally posted by Air Legend
You reported me? Good for you. You are a dumbass. This isn't church.
The omniverse includes all realities and heaven is just that- another reality. Thanos became the Almighty aka the avatar and collaborator. The power that the avatar, collaborator, and THOTI represent is the power of the real life artists and writers.

Nvr doesn't seem to understand the concept of litterary device. It's just a way to put the writer or artist into the story, Like this:

YouTube video

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He is a character in the story. Is there not a story with kirby in it? If he's not a character then what is he? The real Kirby? 😆

It's just away for marvel to themselves into the story. 😬

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Nvr doesn't seem to understand the concept of litterary device. It's just a way to put the writer or artist into the story, Like this:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Nvr doesn't seem to understand what a litterary device is. It's just a way to put the writer or artist into the story. Like this:

YouTube video

Please don't come for my understanding of literary device. you dont' know me. you dont know what I've read or my intellect. Sweetie. I'm so smart that I figured out how to bust up this bullshit charade that Thanos was supreme when he cannot defeat the kirby avatar. It matters not if it was literary device. it's a comic book and thus, any and all characters drawn on panel are characters. you think DC can just put the exact same kirby avatar in a book without marvel's consent? hell no. marvel owns' that character's copy right. which means is a freaking character. To which, Thanos cannot dare hope to defeat.