Thanos HOTU vs. The Kirby Avatar

Started by Sandai Kitetsu20 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yet it was still on panel and thus still in a comic.

Of course, if you ignore why it was done. 😬

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Of course, if you ignore why it was done. 😬

You can't cross real world reasons with the comic story. If you did, then thanos would have to be discounted from all matches altogether with the heart. you have to use what is only pertaining to the comics.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You can't cross real world reasons with the comic story. If you did, then thanos would have to be discounted from all matches altogether with the heart. you have to use what is only pertaining to the comics.

Comics that are written by real world people. 😬

Your just going to basically ignore anything that contradicts your belief, just so you can believe. Go ahead, I'm done.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos WAS God!

Thanos WAS the Supreme Being, Almighty God.

Thanos was everything the "Kirby Avatar" could've been withIN the Omniverse.

In fact, THOTI is the manifestation of God/Toaa's Power/Status withIN the Omniverse.

The only thing outside of Thanos' influence,
was Marvel's Heaven (Marvel studios in the Real World)

Please, the hatin, lying, and ignorant posts should stop already!

shit's getting boring.

He wasn't God or he would have known that he was being manipulated. If he had truly been God he'd know he was so... But he didn't therefore either he wasn't as powerful or didn't have complete authority. So either way he wasn't "truly" omnipotent.

I'm going to put this in the most simple way so that every idiot would understand :

1.The One Above All/Supreme Being in the Marvel comics was depicted as creating a story similar to how a writer in the real world does . This doesn't change the fact that the One Above All is still a comic book character appearing in a canon Fantastic four book .
Just because he appeared like Jack Kirby does in the real world doesn't mean that the One Above All is Jack Kirby . The One Above All is a comic book character . When he appeared in front of the Fantastic Four he even said "What you see is what I am to you [...] That's what my creations do , they find humanity in God . He appeared like that in front of them because that's the way they see him it doesn't necesarilly mean that it's the way he actually is , they just humanized him .

2.Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite is inferior to God/The One Above All for a few reasons such as :

*He didn't have a clue that Adam Warlock and Death still exist
*He didn't know that he was manipulated and also didn't know that he would end up destroying and recreating the Universe

You think the One Above all wouldn't know all the above especially since he creates everything that happens in the stories ? And another important aspect is the fact that The One Above All created Thanos and gave him his power . Is it that hard to understand ? No .

That's a warning to you, Air Legend. You took him off Ignore just to quarrel with him, and now that you've done so, you get a warning for bashing and vulgar behavior. If you have a problem with this, go talk to Digi or PR or Tron. I'm not relenting.

Originally posted by Captain REX
That's a warning to you, Air Legend. You took him off Ignore just to quarrel with him, and now that you've done so, you get a warning for bashing and vulgar behavior. If you have a problem with this, go talk to Digi or PR or Tron. I'm not relenting.
👆

Good job Super, Erik and Nvr giving good rebuttals. Like i said before and agree with yah erik, there is no way that was the real Jack, or even an avatar. Jack is a real person, no way he can put a part of himself in the comics.. 😗

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I'm going to put this in the most simple way so that every idiot would understand :

1.The One Above All/Supreme Being in the Marvel comics was depicted as creating a story similar to how a writer in the real world does . This doesn't change the fact that the One Above All is [B]still a comic book character appearing in a canon Fantastic four book .
Just because he appeared like Jack Kirby does in the real world doesn't mean that the One Above All is Jack Kirby . The One Above All is a comic book character . When he appeared in front of the Fantastic Four he even said "What you see is what I am to you [...] That's what my creations do , they find humanity in God . He appeared like that in front of them because that's the way they see him it doesn't necesarilly mean that it's the way he actually is , they just humanized him .
[/B]

I was making that same arguement a week or so ago.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I'm going to put this in the most simple way so that every idiot would understand :

I guess it's ok with Captain Rex when you call people idiots 🙄
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
1.The One Above All/Supreme Being in the Marvel comics was depicted as creating a story similar to how a writer in the real world does.[/B]

"God" was depicted as doing that, he wasn't called TOAA, but TOAA is presumably the collaborator.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This doesn't change the fact that the One Above All is still a comic book character appearing in a canon Fantastic four book.[/B]

The avatar is a comic book character, what the avatar represents isn't.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Just because he appeared like Jack Kirby does in the real world doesn't mean that the One Above All is Jack Kirby.[/B]

You mean "God." The avatar represented the the real life artists. It's impossible for a real person to LITERALLY put themselves in a comic book so what do they do? They draw a representation of themselves and that's exactly what the avatar was depicted as- a representation of the artists of Marvel.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The One Above All is a comic book character .[/B]

TOAA= writers. The artists and writers drew an avatar to represent their power within the comic book world since they can't LITERALLY put themselves in a comic book.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
When he appeared in front of the Fantastic Four he even said "What you see is what I am to you [...] That's what my creations do , they find humanity in God . He appeared like that in front of them because that's the way they see him it doesn't necesarilly mean that it's the way he actually is , they just humanized him .[/B]

Right. How is a comic book character going to percieve a real person? They can't. That is why the artists and writers have to draw avatars to represent themselves.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
2.Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite is inferior to God/The One Above All for a few reasons such as :

*He didn't have a clue that Adam Warlock and Death still exist
*He didn't know that he was manipulated and also didn't know that he would end up destroying and recreating the Universe[/B]


So you're going to say that Thanos wasn't God because he wasn't omnisicient. Well I can say the same about the Presence.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6717/spectre6102do2.jpg
Was she in heaven? He didn't even know all the people he ate. Therefore, the Presence isn't God, at least according to your logic.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You think the One Above all wouldn't know all the above especially since he creates everything that happens in the stories?[/B]

You're right. TOAA writes the comic books that we read. TOAA equals Marvel writers. The writers made an avatar to represent their power since a real person can't LITERALLY put himself in a comic book.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
And another important aspect is the fact that The One Above All created Thanos and gave him his power .[/B]

Of course, Jim Starlin wrote the story that way. How are you going to pit Jim Starlin against his creation, a drawing on a peice of paper. That is just silly.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Is it that hard to understand ? No .

Apparently for you it is. Thanos w/HOTI became everything the Almighty (the avatar and collaborator) was within the omniverse (comic book world).

Originally posted by Air Legend
I guess it's ok with Captain Rex when you call people idiots 🙄

"God" was depicted as doing that, he wasn't called TOAA, but TOAA is presumably the collaborator.

The avatar is a comic book character, what the avatar represents isn't.

You mean "God." The avatar represented the the real life artists. It's impossible for a real person to LITERALLY put themselves in a comic book so what do they do? They draw a representation of themselves and that's exactly what the avatar was depicted as- a representation of the artists of Marvel.

TOAA= writers. The artists and writers drew an avatar to represent their power within the comic book world since they can't LITERALLY put themselves in a comic book.

Right. How is a comic book character going to percieve a real person? They can't. That is why the artists and writers have to draw avatars to represent themselves.

So you're going to say that Thanos wasn't God because he wasn't omnisicient. Well I can say the same about the Presence.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6717/spectre6102do2.jpg
[B]Was she in heaven?
He didn't even know all the people he ate. Therefore, the Presence isn't God, at least according to your logic.

You're right. TOAA writes the comic books that we read. TOAA equals Marvel writers. The writers made an avatar to represent their power since a real person can't LITERALLY put himself in a comic book.

Of course, Jim Starlin wrote the story that way. How are you going to pit Jim Starlin against his creation, a drawing on a peice of paper. That is just silly.

Apparently for you it is. Thanos w/HOTI became everything the Almighty (the avatar and collaborator) was within the omniverse (comic book world). [/B]

This rebuttle fails on so many levels. It's laughable. Contrived. It's circular arguing from a failed attempt to get around the fact that The Character Kirby was and is more powerful than Thanos with the heart ever was and will ever be. barring Real life meanings, which is shit in this vs. Forum, Thanos cannot, does not, and will never wield the power that the kirby character has.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This rebuttle fails on so many levels. It's laughable. Contrived. It's circular arguing from a failed attempt to get around the fact that The Character Kirby was and is more powerful than Thanos with the heart ever was and will ever be. barring Real life meanings, which is shit in this vs. Forum, Thanos cannot, does not, and will never wield the power that the kirby character has.

Add something useful to this forum for a change.

Just for notes, The-One-Above-All haven't appeared in any comic so far.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Add something useful to this forum for a change.

Where have you been? LMAO. This thread is plenty useful.

Originally posted by Astner
Just for notes, The-One-Above-All haven't appeared in any comic so far.

Then exactly who and what is the character Kirby?

Originally posted by Astner
Just for notes, The-One-Above-All haven't appeared in any comic so far.

Correct. The only thing we can assume is that he was the collaborator. According to wikipedia it has been officially declared that the "One-Above-All" is Marvel itself, not the Marvel universe, but everything the company is. I can't find anywhere on the Marvel website confirming this but then again I am not a member.

Also, it's "hasn't" not haven't 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Where have you been? LMAO. This thread is plenty useful.

Your posts are useless.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then exactly who and what is the character Kirby?

"God"

Originally posted by Air Legend
Your posts are useless.

coming from someone who can't comprehend that Kirby was superior to Thanos with the heart in EVERYWAY, I take that as a compliment. I find that Idiots often think Sound Logic is Rubbish. Or Useless. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then exactly who and what is the character Kirby?

He was only titled as "God" and "Almighty".
If you check the Marvel dictionary and handbooks it will have no data about The-One-Above-All (if you're not looking for the Celestial the "One Above All"😉