Originally posted by Sirius77
No matter how much you try to bs your way into an
argument, BB still doesn't think at lightspeed.Also, a punch from Superman is sufficient to split
a moon in half.
And guess what.......neither does Superman.
Flash doesn't even think at lightspeed iirc, and if he doesn't we know Superman hasn't reached it.
And we've seen this happen on panel, or are we just taking his word for it?
Originally posted by UniOmni
And guess what.......neither does Superman.Flash doesn't even think at lightspeed iirc, and if he doesn't we know Superman hasn't reached it.
And we've seen this happen on panel, or are we just taking his word for it?
So when flash is moving around at light speed, changing directions and stuff, he actually is thinking behind himself? 😆 😆 😆
Actually, i don't try to debate Flash facts since they're extremely confusing.
But iirc, he doesn't think at the speed of light.
He's a supercomputer, but not near lightspeed.
And it abounds in comics.
Heck, iirc early Post crisis Superman was apparently flying around the universe, even tho he hadn't grazed lightspeed as of yet.
Originally posted by carver9
So since it was sound that black canary hit him with, why did he bust through a wall after the impact and was barely able to get up.Why are you bring up the sun with superman, you do know that the sun gives superman his powers. Could the gl battery kill kyle, I dont think that it could, what about you. If hulk was to walk through a radiation chamber, do you think that it would kill him.
Orion has withstood all these things but almost got killed by one blast from silver surfer.
Ooooh, so superman bleeds from only herald level beings. You do know who the fatal five is, dont you. Its a guy on the fatal five (forgot his name) that can blow the ground up from under you. This same guy blew the ground from under superman and superman started bleeding from the mouth. Equus ripped a hole in superman. Despero scratched superman across the face with nothing but regular claws. Doomsday shot through superman.
Skipping the first part, because I don't know the context.
Regardless of suns being Superman's power source, he has the durability feats to easily survive Bolt's scream, and the speed feats to one-shot Bolt before he can think.
CROSSOVERS ARE NOT CANON.
Don't know about the fatal five, but Equus had angel bones (MAGIC!) which is why he was able to hurt Supes. Despero? shocklaugh You're talking like getting hurt by Despero is a low feat. Despero has fought the entire JLA, regularly punks Martian in TP, and generally takes a good compliment of the JLA to bring down. Despero would cream Sentry and Blackbolt. Maybe Thor too, if we go by his best.
Doomsday? hysterical Doomsday has versions that would solo the field.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Skipping the first part, because I don't know the context.Regardless of suns being Superman's power source, he has the durability feats to easily survive Bolt's scream, and the speed feats to one-shot Bolt before he can think.
CROSSOVERS ARE NOT CANON.
Don't know about the fatal five, but Equus had angel bones (MAGIC!) which is why he was able to hurt Supes. Despero? shocklaugh You're talking like getting hurt by Despero is a low feat. Despero has fought the entire JLA, regularly punks Martian in TP, and generally takes a good compliment of the JLA to bring down. Despero would cream Sentry and Blackbolt. Maybe Thor too, if we go by his best.
Doomsday? hysterical Doomsday has versions that would solo the field.
Trickster, why do you always do that. Everyone that I named, I didnt name them to say that they were weak or they couldnt beat him, her, or whoever, I was naming times that superman got knocked the hell out.
I know who despero is but I also know that despero got injured by a da** shark, got one shotted by a heat vision blast from superman. I think that sentry could punk him and I think that black bolt full scream MIGHT (you see i typed the word might big) would kill him since a da** shark almost ripped a chunk out of him.
Doomsday 😆 never said that he was weak. Doomsday is my favorite villian, he would never be weak in my eyes but that dont change the fact that he shot his bone claws into superman with ease.
I dont have to use crossovers for orion to show what he is or not capable of. There are plenty of things that could be brought up.
And regardless of what you say about black bolt, he has plenty of feats to show that he can avoid a speed blitz and plenty of feats to show that he might could over power superman without using his scream, just ask sphinx, someone who stalemated the all powerful galactus. Black bolt had him screaming in pain and actually won the fight. Sphinx>>>>superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Trickster, why do you always do that. Everyone that I named, I didnt name them to say that they were weak or they couldnt beat him, her, or whoever, I was naming times that superman got knocked the hell out.I know who despero is but I also know that despero got injured by a da** shark, got one shotted by a heat vision blast from superman. I think that sentry could punk him and I think that black bolt full scream MIGHT (you see i typed the word might big) would kill him since a da** shark almost ripped a chunk out of him.
Doomsday 😆 never said that he was weak. Doomsday is my favorite villian, he would never be weak in my eyes but that dont change the fact that he shot his bone claws into superman with ease.
I dont have to use crossovers for orion to show what he is or not capable of. There are plenty of things that could be brought up.
And regardless of what you say about black bolt, he has plenty of feats to show that he can avoid a speed blitz and plenty of feats to show that he might could over power superman without using his scream, just ask sphinx, someone who stalemated the all powerful galactus. Black bolt had him screaming in pain and actually won the fight. Sphinx>>>>superman.
you realize that Despero's durability is contingient upon who's body he host right? yeah now that we have that taken care of.
Doomsday put his bone thru superman and that is somehow a low showing? Doomsday is stronger and with bones that are nearly indusctuctible. Of course he can push them thru.
Your sphinx argument doesn't hold up. Superman has beaten Dominus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sphinx and Galactus together. Does that make him thier equal? Nope.
Also, please don't try and bring up what you THINK orion isn't capable of. becuz being a fan, I know everything there is to, and trust me, he's got PLENTY of feats to suggest he is capable of alot.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you realize that Despero's durability is contingient upon who's body he host right? yeah now that we have that taken care of.Doomsday put his bone thru superman and that is somehow a low showing? Doomsday is stronger and with bones that are nearly indusctuctible. Of course he can push them thru.
Your sphinx argument doesn't hold up. Superman has beaten Dominus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sphinx and Galactus together. Does that make him thier equal? Nope.
Also, please don't try and bring up what you THINK orion isn't capable of. becuz being a fan, I know everything there is to, and trust me, he's got PLENTY of feats to suggest he is capable of alot.
Have you read the superman and doomsday fight. Doomsday didnt push anything through superman, he simply shot it out at him and it went through superman. It didnt take any strength to do that (wish i had the scan or a scanner.)
Despero has been injured so many times that it is rediculous. He has to many low showings for you to even try and use that one high showing. Sentry would whoop despero a**.
Can you please tell me how superman beat dominus because to my knowledge he needed a plot device. I want to see are you going to tell the truth before I go look it up. By the way Galactus and sphinx >> dominus.
I know how powerful orion is, who dont, and i also know that you do know alot about orion, can lie about that, but I also think that anyone on this field can give him a good fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Have you read the superman and doomsday fight. Doomsday didnt push anything through superman, he simply shot it out at him and it went through superman. It didnt take any strength to do that (wish i had the scan or a scanner.)Despero has been injured so many times that it is rediculous. He has to many low showings for you to even try and use that one high showing. Sentry would whoop despero a**.
Can you please tell me how superman beat dominus because to my knowledge he needed a plot device. I want to see are you going to tell the truth before I go look it up. By the way Galactus and sphinx >> dominus.
I know how powerful orion is, who dont, and i also know that you do know alot about orion, can lie about that, but I also think that anyone on this field can give him a good fight.
2ndly, Despero does have different lvls of power depending on the body he takes over. Sentry wouldn't pwn Despero. he couldn't even pwn Ultron. And Despero >>any Ultron. Besides the fact that Despero could just make Sentry cry like a baby with is uber tp and then beat the be jesus out of him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, you said galactus and sphinx are more powerful than dominus. WRONG.2ndly, Despero does have different lvls of power depending on the body he takes over. Sentry wouldn't pwn Despero. he couldn't even pwn Ultron. And Despero >>any Ultron. Besides the fact that Despero could just make Sentry cry like a baby with is uber tp and then beat the be jesus out of him.
When Im reffering to despero and sentry fight, Im talking about a physical fight. Like i said before despero has to many low showings to say that he able to stand up to everything that sentry throws at him.
You do know that it is almost physically impossible to beat ultron. I cant think of a way that despero could beat ultron but I do think that he could give ultron a good fight.
Originally posted by carver9
When Im reffering to despero and sentry fight, Im talking about a physical fight. Like i said before despero has to many low showings to say that he able to stand up to everything that sentry throws at him.You do know that it is almost physically impossible to beat ultron. I cant think of a way that despero could beat ultron but I do think that he could give ultron a good fight.
actually all it takes is enough force to smash ultron until his inner coverters get broken. Despero is far stronger than any whom Ultron has fought. including Sentry.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually all it takes is enough force to smash ultron until his inner coverters get broken. Despero is far stronger than any whom Ultron has fought. including Sentry.
Tell me this, what strength feats are you going by to suggest that despero is stronger then sentry. Youre just using your own opinion. You have no kind of proof to suggest that sentry is stronger than despero or despero being stronger than sentry.
Just know that sentry has being ripping through top tier like theyre nothing and he might could do the same against despy.
So you think that despero has enough force to punch through ultron. Tell me what makes you suggest THIS answer. Do you have any proof. Nope, your just being biased. 😮
Originally posted by carver9
Tell me this, what strength feats are you going by to suggest that despero is stronger then sentry. Youre just using your own opinion. You have no kind of proof to suggest that sentry is stronger than despero or despero being stronger than sentry.Just know that sentry has being ripping through top tier like theyre nothing and he might could do the same against despy.
So you think that despero has enough force to punch through ultron. Tell me what makes you suggest THIS answer. Do you have any proof. Nope, your just being biased. 😮
maybe you should learn how to read slower. I didn't say punch thru ultron. I said punch him hard enough to break his inner parts. And Sentry may rip thru one or two top tiers. Desperor rips thru TEAMS of Top tiers who are more powerful than Sentry all at the same time. Nuff said. Now biased that.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
maybe you should learn how to read slower. I didn't say punch thru ultron. I said punch him hard enough to break his inner parts. And Sentry may rip thru one or two top tiers. Desperor rips thru TEAMS of Top tiers who are more powerful than Sentry all at the same time. Nuff said. Now biased that.
You see theres kind of a difference. It is common for sentry to be wrecking through top tiers since he has done this numerous of times. Despero did his run through and then got koed by a heat blast. It.....just......dont .....add.....up.
Now tell me again, despero has this kind of strength to punch ultron hard enough to break his/her inner parts. So he is able to pull a feat that even sentry couldnt pull. Tell me where you get this answer from because i dont think that he can.
But I got this straight from marvel.com and this is what it says about ultron weakness and Im pretty sure that despero dont have any of it to put ultron down.
Weaknesses
Ultron has one sole major weakness: an internal molecular rearranger that renders the adamantium components of his internal workings more malleable, thus giving him a means to remodel or reconstruct his physical form. However, it has no effect on his outer armor, so it is virtually impossible to disable it from the inside. The chaos magic wielded by the Scarlet Witch have proven to be the sole exception thus far.
The metal-destabilizing ore known as Savage Land Vibranium ("anti-metal"😉.
Originally posted by carver9
You see theres kind of a difference. It is common for sentry to be wrecking through top tiers since he has done this numerous of times. Despero did his run through and then got koed by a heat blast. It.....just......dont .....add.....up.Now tell me again, despero has this kind of strength to punch ultron hard enough to break his/her inner parts. So he is able to pull a feat that even sentry couldnt pull. Tell me where you get this answer from because i dont think that he can.
But I got this straight from marvel.com and this is what it says about ultron weakness and Im pretty sure that despero dont have any of it to put ultron down.
Weaknesses
Ultron has one sole major weakness: an internal molecular rearranger that renders the adamantium components of his internal workings more malleable, thus giving him a means to remodel or reconstruct his physical form. However, it has no effect on his outer armor, so it is virtually impossible to disable it from the inside. The chaos magic wielded by the Scarlet Witch have proven to be the sole exception thus far.The metal-destabilizing ore known as Savage Land Vibranium ("anti-metal"😉.
Exactly. Superman batman is called PIS. haven't you learned that by now. It was PIS for heat vision to pwn Despero.
even then, Superman was getting his ass kicked by Despero in hand to hand. So by that book, his heat vision>>>>>>>>>>His strength and durability.
And you gotta catch up on the avengers. Ultron's inner parts can be dmged with enough force applied to the outside to jossle the inner part. I'm almost sure I remember the avengers winning this way once.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Superman batman is called PIS. haven't you learned that by now. It was PIS for heat vision to pwn Despero.even then, Superman was getting his ass kicked by Despero in hand to hand. So by that book, his heat vision>>>>>>>>>>His strength and durability.
And you gotta catch up on the avengers. Ultron's inner parts can be dmged with enough force applied to the outside to jossle the inner part. I'm almost sure I remember the avengers winning this way once.
I dont care how you put it, despero aint beating no ultron because like I said it is physically impossible to beat him/her. You have to have a plot device. Now this might could be a feat that sentry could pull off since he has been doing the impossible lately but who knows.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont care how you put it, despero aint beating no ultron because like I said it is physically impossible to beat him/her. You have to have a plot device. Now this might could be a feat that sentry could pull off since he has been doing the impossible lately but who knows.
So the, how did the avengers beat ulton before? 🙄 Scarlet witch didn't win all the battles. how boring would that be. 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, you said galactus and sphinx are more powerful than dominus. WRONG.2ndly, Despero does have different lvls of power depending on the body he takes over. Sentry wouldn't pwn Despero. he couldn't even pwn Ultron. And Despero >>any Ultron. Besides the fact that Despero could just make Sentry cry like a baby with is uber tp and then beat the be jesus out of him.
This has got to stop.
Dominus did nothing but create faux realities in Supermans mind.
He was an astral monster, ala Shadow King.
He was not above Galactus by any measure.