Originally posted by stormfront
but he would never got in range of hitting her or panther with it.he's been taken down by a telepath, thats not magic. and he is only unstopable if he is in motion. so if he is teleported then storm would just lift him out of the building.
i doubt if he doesnt need his organs. yes i know he doesnt need to eat, drink or breath.
a jovian pressure feild would crush him.( if he was still)
or she would jyst escape with panther.
I can tell you dont know nothing of the juggernaut. Juggernaut had all of his flesh stripped off of his bones and was a bag a bones still walking a smile on his face saying that he is the unstoppable. Nothing storm can do would hurt the juggernaut. If storm had the strength, she can throw a d*** planet on juggernaut and it wont do any damage.
Storm vs juggernaut is a none fight. Why do you think that storm would pose a threat when the entire xmen team struggle to even try and get the juggernaut to acknowledge them. He walks through the entire team attacks with storm there but you think that she can solo him. This is hilarious. 😆 😂
Originally posted by Badabing
There's no reason not to have fun. If people get mad at me then a PM will take care of it. I understand that I go overboard sometimes. I usually only "debate" when I feel somebody is dead wrong. 😄
Most people only debate when they think the other side is wrong 😛 unless its a statement like in a thread of Phoenix vs Galactus and u feel compelled to state Batman 😱
Carver9, he didnt no alot about juggernaut, but thats ok... as long as he/she is willing to be open to enlightenment thats great
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Lemme refraise then, 3 things can "stop the juggernaut" - cosmics stronger than Cyttorak / close to cyttorak, strong magics, psionics
What are you smoking man? If Juggernaut has a tiny fraction of Cyttorak's power, one doesn't have to be anywhere near that level to stop Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What are you smoking man? If Juggernaut has a tiny fraction of Cyttorak's power, one doesn't have to be anywhere near that level to stop Juggernaut.
Im assuming your an educated person who can do math... What is a fraction of infinity? any fraction of infinity.... yep. you guessed it... still infinity.... Its along the same lines as Silver Surfer /w Galactus.... Yes Ss is much weaker but his powers were still stated incalcuable just to a lower degree of the "incalcuable" hierarchy of power...
Oh a 4th thing: bad writing (IE Crossovers + Onslaught saga although he was depowered... it wasnt stated he was depowered til after in attempts to cover up the bad writing)
Originally posted by carver9
I can tell you dont know nothing of the juggernaut. Juggernaut had all of his flesh stripped off of his bones and was a bag a bones still walking a smile on his face saying that he is the unstoppable. Nothing storm can do would hurt the juggernaut. If storm had the strength, she can throw a d*** planet on juggernaut and it wont do any damage.Storm vs juggernaut is a none fight. Why do you think that storm would pose a threat when the entire xmen team struggle to even try and get the juggernaut to acknowledge them. He walks through the entire team attacks with storm there but you think that she can solo him. This is hilarious. 😆 😂
i dont care that he walked around as a bone. if he was crushe to the size of a baseball, i doubt he'd be saying im unstopable. so he can defeat hulk? i only mention hulk because you say jugg wouldnt be hut if he were smashed by a planet.
i can tell you know nothing about storm. i guess jugg could survive a pressure dome, capable of cutting through a mountain. note: cutting through.
now like i said she would have escaped before he could even do anything.
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Im assuming your an educated person who can do math... What is a fraction of infinity? any fraction of infinity.... yep. you guessed it... still infinity.... Its along the same lines as Silver Surfer /w Galactus.... Yes Ss is much weaker but his powers were still stated incalcuable just to a lower degree of the "incalcuable" hierarchy of power...
I'm guessing you're an educated person who can do logic.
If Cyttorak has more power than Juggernaut who has more power? That's right Cyttorak.
Unless you're trying to tell me that you think SilverSurfer is the equal of Galactus (which I think comes off as rather dense)
Storm is by no means "weak" as she falls under the same unfortunate cercumsance as blackbolt (She cant use her full power without injuring her allies)... but she couldnt crush him into the size of a baseball.... As yes a planet hurled into him at light speed wouldnt hurt him... nor would him being thrown into the sun, nor winds taht can cut mountains... nor mountains falling on him.... nor... you get the point... I have much respect for storm and its arguable that her powerset it greater (although i think otherwise) but its just the conditions of how there power is used... She cannot channel her powers in a way that would hurt Juggernaut... She can however hurt hulk more effectively than he can cause electric shocks seem to do more than bludgening (since its limited to either forcing hulk to hit something or knocking him back a many distance)....
Originally posted by stormfront
i dont care that he walked around as a bone. if he was crushe to the size of a baseball, i doubt he'd be saying im unstopable. so he can defeat hulk? i only mention hulk because you say jugg wouldnt be hut if he were smashed by a planet.i can tell you know nothing about storm. i guess jugg could survive a pressure dome, capable of cutting through a mountain. note: cutting through.
now like i said she would have escaped before he could even do anything.
Lets put it like this. You do know who galactus is right. Thor used his most powerful blast (god blast) against galactus ( an above sky father level being) and galactus 1st screamed out in pain and 2nd fleed in pain, couldnt take it. Now I have a question for you before I get to my point, do you think that galactus can survive a pressure dome capable of cutting through mountain?
Now thor (who was getting his a** whipped) was fighting juggernaut and decided to used that same blast that made galactus flee in pain and made galactus scream in pain, he decided to use it against the unstoppable juggernaut (by the way the god blast was used on a celestial and took out 3 mountains before it hit the celestial. So taking out 3 mountains >>>>>>> cutting through a mountain.). Thor got the blast charged up but since the juggernaut is cocky and decided to walk the blast head on ( the same blast that made the sky father galactus flee in pain) and guess what he did, he walked through the heart of the blast and continued walking. Now the blast did end up slowing him down due but it didnt stop him, the ground ended up giving in. But guess what, while the blast was hitting juggernaut ( the same blast that made the sky father galactus flee in pain), juggernaut didnt feel it, didnt say anything while the blast was hitting hit and wasnt even damaged by the blast (didnt have a scatch or a burn mark). So you tell me, do you think that storm pressure dome is >> the god blast. If you do you need to stop reading comics.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm guessing you're an educated person who can do logic.If Cyttorak has more power than Juggernaut who has more power? That's right Cyttorak.
Unless you're trying to tell me that you think SilverSurfer is the equal of Galactus (which I think comes off as rather dense)
Re-read my post.... Especialy the part regarding ss and galactus...
Juggernaut was stated a fraction of Cyttorak not because of strength reasons... he has Cyttorak's strength and durability and stamina... but he lacks many of cyttoraks other powers (his bands, energy blasts, teleportation, etc) hence being a fraction of him....
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Re-read my post.... Especialy the part regarding ss and galactus...Juggernaut was stated a fraction of Cyttorak not because of strength reasons... he has Cyttorak's strength and durability and stamina... but he lacks many of cyttoraks other powers (his bands, energy blasts, teleportation, etc) hence being a fraction of him....
Seriously? Where was this?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm guessing you're an educated person who can do logic.If Cyttorak has more power than Juggernaut who has more power? That's right Cyttorak.
Unless you're trying to tell me that you think SilverSurfer is the equal of Galactus (which I think comes off as rather dense)
He's not trying to say that juggernaut is more powerful than cytorrak, he's telling you that everything cytorrak blessed juggernaut with is infinite, unlimited, no caculation. That includes his durability and strength. It has no meassure. Storm nor any physical being can hurt the juggernaut but if you pack a lot of magic, yes that would hurt him but not stop him.
Originally posted by carver9
He's not trying to say that juggernaut is more powerful than cytorrak, he's telling you that everything cytorrak blessed juggernaut with is infinite, unlimited, no caculation. That includes his durability and strength. It has no meassure. Storm nor any physical being can hurt the juggernaut but if you pack a lot of magic, yes that would hurt him but not stop him.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Seriously? Where was this?
It was in the 2005 Offical Handguild bio thing... i think there is a scan in his respect thread (hopefully 2005 is current enough for you, techniqually came out in 04)
I will admit i dont personally have that handguild book thing but i was shown a scan...
Forgive me for not having panel evidence... not my fault that ppl in marvel dont wanna put him against people to prove feats... They just well... u know... officially state it...
Originally posted by janus77
😂
Let me do it with you 😂 😆
To bad you know nothing of juggernaut and you are highly upset that juggernaut is >> hulk. You hate the fact that juggernaut is superior to hulk. Learn the characters before commenting about them. Learn that juggernaut walked through 6 exemplers that was equal to thor in power. Learn that juggernaut walked through the entire defense of the xmen without feeling pain. Learn that everything thor threw at him juggernaut didnt feel it. Learn that HULK never made juggernaut feel any kind of pain. Learn that wolverine claws bounce off of juggernaut but rip hulk to shreds. Learn that juggernaut koed hulk in 4 punches and the 3 in three punches. Learn that hulk had to become war hulk to even pose a threat to the juggernaut and still didnt damage him.
Like I said you hate the fact that juggernaut is superior to you favorite character. You want to know something. Superman is superior to him, thor is superior, wonderwoman is superior, Spiderman koed his a**, thing has proven on some occasions to be his equal. Captain america koed his a**. Storm hurt the hell out of him and made him flee. Venom beat the hell out of your poor hulk. Drax has owned him. Almost every marvel character has owned the hulk but they feel helpless when they fight the juggernaut. Everyone who has faced the juggernaut always realize that there is nothing that they can do against him.
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
It was in the 2005 Offical Handguild bio thing... i think there is a scan in his respect thread (hopefully 2005 is current enough for you, techniqually came out in 04)I will admit i dont personally have that handguild book thing but i was shown a scan...
Forgive me for not having panel evidence... not my fault that ppl in marvel dont wanna put him against people to prove feats... They just well... u know... officially state it...
1. what are the exact words?
2. do you know how many characters are said (off panel) to have "limitless, incalculable, infinite..." powers?
Originally posted by carver9
Let me do it with you 😂 😆To bad you know nothing of juggernaut and you are highly upset that juggernaut is >> hulk. You hate the fact that juggernaut is superior to hulk. Learn the characters before commenting about them. Learn that juggernaut walked through 6 exemplers that was equal to thor in power. Learn that juggernaut walked through the entire defense of the xmen without feeling pain. Learn that everything thor threw at him juggernaut didnt feel it. Learn that HULK never made juggernaut feel any kind of pain. Learn that wolverine claws bounce off of juggernaut but rip hulk to shreds. Learn that juggernaut koed hulk in 4 punches and the 3 in three punches. Learn that hulk had to become war hulk to even pose a threat to the juggernaut and still didnt damage him.
Like I said you hate the fact that juggernaut is superior to you favorite character. You want to know something. Superman is superior to him, thor is superior, wonderwoman is superior, Spiderman koed his a**, thing has proven on some occasions to be his equal. Captain america koed his a**. Storm hurt the hell out of him and made him flee. Venom beat the hell out of your poor hulk. Drax has owned him. Almost every marvel character has owned the hulk but they feel helpless when they fight the juggernaut. Everyone who has faced the juggernaut always realize that there is nothing that they can do against him.
the point is that juggernaut clearly +isn't+ "invulnerable", indestructible yadda yadda yadda ...