Storm vs Classic Juggernaut

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Re-read my post.... Especialy the part regarding ss and galactus...

Juggernaut was stated a fraction of Cyttorak not because of strength reasons... he has Cyttorak's strength and durability and stamina... but he lacks many of cyttoraks other powers (his bands, energy blasts, teleportation, etc) hence being a fraction of him....

Originally posted by janus77
a comatose man feels no pain.
a person with a damaged nervous system wouldn't feel any pain. big deal.

the point is that juggernaut clearly +isn't+ "invulnerable", indestructible yadda yadda yadda ...

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I really don't think he has any stat anywhere close to Cyttorak's. It's more likely Juggernaut's fraction of power is completely dedicated to durability, regeneration, and strength and thus those stats are ridiculously high. Almost the same as Hulk. Coincidently, Juggernaut was supposed to represent like... anger and greed and such.

I think the official line right now is that he's the Exemplar or Power or something like that.

Originally posted by Newjak
And clearly the Hulk isn't the strongest one there is either. 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think the official line right now is that he's the Exemplar or Power or something like that.

Originally posted by The Pict
Storm fails to stop him

Didn't even bother reading the rest of the responses...that's all that's necessary.

Originally posted by janus77
a comatose man feels no pain.
a person with a damaged nervous system wouldn't feel any pain. big deal.

the point is that juggernaut clearly +isn't+ "invulnerable", indestructible yadda yadda yadda ...

Tell me why you dont think that he is invulnerable. Give me a time, without magic, that juggernaut has ever been damaged. Tell me this and then maybe I would agree with you. Would you like for me to give you some instances where hulk has been damaged and knocked the hell out.

You go 1st.

Trust me you wont find anything. You cant say that a character isnt invulnerable unless you have proof. Juggernaut has never been damaged his entire career. Like I said before you hate the fact that juggernaut is >> hulk. 😆

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I really don't think he has any stat anywhere close to Cyttorak's. It's more likely Juggernaut's fraction of power is completely dedicated to durability, regeneration, and strength and thus those stats are ridiculously high. Almost the same as Hulk. Coincidently, Juggernaut was supposed to represent like... anger and greed and such.

Originally posted by carver9
Tell me why you dont think that he is invulnerable. Give me a time, without magic, that juggernaut has ever been damaged. Tell me this and then maybe I would agree with you.

So you're saying that if Galactus hit Juggernaut with a focused blast of power it would have no effect at all because Juggernaut's invulnerability power is completely immutable?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So you're saying that if Galactus hit Juggernaut with a focused blast of power it would have no effect at all because Juggernaut's invulnerability power is completely immutable?

I wouldnt know what would happen since cyttorak and galactus are almost equal and I think that galactus and cyttorak are equals. I do think that galactus can hurt hurt cyttorak and I also think that cyttorak can harm galactus, so with that said, galactus might could harm juggernaut. Especially since cosmic powers are >> magic. But juggernaut has stood up to almost everything thrown at him without damage so he might could take cosmic blast to no affect (but its from galactus. Im so confused right now. good question.) Maybe if you said silver surfer I might could have had a better answer for ya.

I know juggernaut has been stopped before (even though I dont think that war hulk stopped him) but what does this statement mean to you. What do you think that marvel was trying to say.

Once he begins to advance in a certain direction, no obstacle or natural force has been observed to be able to halt his advance (other than gravity, since the Juggernaut cannot fly); apparently, only he can stop himself.

What does this statement mean to you also.

the Juggernaut's body is completely invulnerable to physical injury. His skin could not be broken and he is incapable of feeling pain or sustaining any form of injury from any conventional physical attack, (NOW I REALY WANT YOU TO READ WHATS COMING UP NEXT),regardless of the amount of force or energy that exerted against him.

That last statement should answer your question.

War Hulk toyed with "Classic" juggernaut. War Hulk.
and you're equivocating over Galactus? 😑

you know, I think this trumps "Hulk fanboyism"!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So you're saying that if Galactus hit Juggernaut with a focused blast of power it would have no effect at all because Juggernaut's invulnerability power is completely immutable?

galactus would crush juggernaut and could cause him physical pain.

mate, if Galactus hit Juggernaut Cyttorak would bloody feel it. no question.

if juggernaut is basically an aspect of Cyttorak (which the fanboys more or less imply) then damn! Hulk's beat down and definitely has the potentially to totally own Cyttorak! 😛

War Hulk beat down juggernaut with +physical+ force, WWH arc Hulk stopped, redirected and then dismissed juggernaut... Hulk's got infinite potential, he hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of his powers...

Originally posted by janus77
War Hulk toyed with "Classic" juggernaut. War Hulk.
and you're equivocating over Galactus? 😑

you know, I think this trumps "Hulk fanboyism"!

😆

Your a moron. Did i say that juggernaut could BEAT galactus. No. I said that I dont know if galactus can hurt him with a blast. Galactus has so many other ways to kill juggernaut that it aint funny, read the post again and reread his question. If I said that cyttorak and galactus are equal why would i say that juggernaut can beat cytorrak since cyttorak is >>>>>> juggernaut. But you do know that when cyttorak and juggernaut got into a fight, cyttorak didnt have a way to harm him so he bfred him (could have easily stripped cain of his power).

Answer this for me juggernaut hater, do you know what TRUE invulnerability is. If your answer is yes, then whatever you come up with, that same power, add it to the juggernaut because he is true invulnerability.

Answer this question for me. Do you think that galactus is invulnerable. If no, answer this question for me. Do you think that hulk could harm galactus. If your answer is no, then answer this question for me. Did you read the comic where thor harmed galactus. If yes, then answer this for me, did your read the comic where thor TRIED to harm the juggernaut with the same blast but failed, it didnt even put a scratch on him. Now do the math. I consider galactus as invulnerable as you can get or he is pretty close. It was stated that punching through galactus is like punching a hole in a star. Thor did the impossible and damaged galactus. That same trick was tried on juggernaut but juggernaut didnt even register it.

Did you add up the equation. Do you now understand, juggernaut hater.

by the way war hulk didnt beat nothing down. Was juggernaut injured in that entire fight. Nope. Did war hulk get pushed miles with his incaculable strength before even being able to stop the juggernaut yes. Did juggernaut punch him through 10 cars, yes. War hulk>>>>WWH.

Originally posted by carver9
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Your a moron. Did i say that juggernaut could BEAT galactus. No. I said that I dont know if galactus can hurt him with a blast. Galactus has so many other ways to kill juggernaut that it aint funny, read the post again and reread his question. If I said that cyttorak and galactus are equal why would i say that juggernaut can beat cytorrak since cyttorak is >>>>>> juggernaut. But you do know that when cyttorak and juggernaut got into a fight, cyttorak didnt have a way to harm him so he bfred him (could have easily stripped cain of his power).

Answer this for me juggernaut hater, do you know what TRUE invulnerability is. If your answer is yes, then whatever you come up with, that same power, add it to the juggernaut because he is true invulnerability.

Answer this question for me. Do you think that galactus is invulnerable. If no, answer this question for me. Do you think that hulk could harm galactus. If your answer is no, then answer this question for me. Did you read the comic where thor harmed galactus. If yes, then answer this for me, did your read the comic where thor TRIED to harm the juggernaut with the same blast but failed, it didnt even put a scratch on him. Now do the math. I consider galactus as invulnerable as you can get or he is pretty close. It was stated that punching through galactus is like punching a hole in a star. Thor did the impossible and damaged galactus. That same trick was tried on juggernaut but juggernaut didnt even register it.

Did you add up the equation. Do you now understand, juggernaut hater.

you're saying that juggernaut compares, somewhat, to Galactus. that it isn't a foregone - and unarguable - conclusion that Galactus completely owns juggernaut in a fight.

that's fanboyism.

simply put mate, Beyonder + Apocalypse' CELESTIAL TECH both state Hulk's powers to be infinite/of an immenseness that may trouble the Celestials.

doubt juggernaut'll ever be anywhere near that.

Originally posted by janus77
www.dictionary.com
look up Equivocating.
come back, re-read. and once you've finished blushing, go to bed 🙂.

you're saying that juggernaut compares, somewhat, to Galactus. that it isn't a foregone - and unarguable - conclusion that Galactus completely owns juggernaut in a fight.

that's fanboyism.

simply put mate, Beyonder + Apocalypse' CELESTIAL TECH both state Hulk's powers to be infinite/of an immenseness that may trouble the Celestials.

doubt juggernaut'll ever be anywhere near that.

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Im sorry Im laughing at you but youre hilarious. Let me say this again for ya. Galactus wouldnt even register juggernaut. Nope, I dont think that you seen that, let me type it again, you have a bad habit of reading things wrong. GALACTUS WOULDNT EVEN REGISTER JUGGERNAUT. Is that better for ya but juggernaut might could take a blast from galactus since juggernaut is INVULNERABLE. Marvel has stated that no none obstacle that exist can harm him. It cant get no simpler to read then that. Do you not understand that statement. It didnt say that no none force can hurt the juggernaut except galactus, hulk, etc.... It said nothing can pierce his skin. NOTHING, NOTHING,NOTHING,NOTHING,NOTHING,NOTHING, can harm him.

Now I want you to understand something else (Oh my goodness your so stubborn.), It has been established by marvel and said numerous of times that juggernaut has unlimited strength. The narrator said it, it was said by cyttorak, it was said by juggernaut, it was even said in a interview. How many more people have to say it for you to believe it. How many times do i have to tell you that juggernaut took a blast that even galactus couldnt take but that dont mean that juggernaut could beat galactus (but he can beat the hell out of hulk 😆)

galactus could kill juggernaut with physical force,.

its galactus and juggernaut couldnt take it.

that simple!

Originally posted by carver9
This is how it is. Juggernaut was giving cyttorak powers but not all just a fraction. Do you think that cyttorak is nothing but strength and durability, NO, cyttorak is so much more. He blessed juggernaut with all of his strength and durability, the rest of cytorrak power remains his.

Do you remember when juggernaut and cyttorak was locked arm to arm and neither could bulge each other. It said that that hold was so tight that no one on the face of the planet could remove there grips. If cyttorak was stronger than juggernaut why wasnt he able to toss juggernaut too the side because juggernaut was just as strong.

The most interaction the two have had together I think was the time Juggernaut jumped on Cyttorak and knocked the gem out of his hat.